VW Emission Recall - has anybody taken a car to be remedied?

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I drive a 2012 VW Tdi Diesel that I'm informed falls under the cars affected by excess emissions. To date I've received (I think) four letters from VAG 'reassuring' me that they will shortly be contacting me to 'fix' the problem. Do they hope the problem will just 'go away'?

Has anybody actually taken a vehicle in that's been recalled for excess emissions I wonder?
 
I had a letter about a year ago about it saying they would need it back in. But since then, nothing. (2011 Golf TDi)
 
If mine does ever go back in, Im a bit worried that my mpg will suffer, it's pretty p*ss poor for a 1.6 bluemotion as it is. overall average 42 mg. Could get a huge mondeo or qashqai returning better than that from what I read.
 
DorsetDude said:
If mine does ever go back in, Im a bit worried that my mpg will suffer, it's pretty p*ss poor for a 1.6 bluemotion as it is. overall average 42 mg. Could get a huge mondeo or qashqai returning better than that from what I read.
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I had a golf estate 1.6 blue motion and it never averaged less than 50mpg.
 
As far as I'm aware VW have not as yet started fixing cars yet. Basically VW avoided working properly on the emissions of their engines. The emissions plays a part of the development of engines which can take 2yrs or more over all including the rest of the engines development. It could be that the fix isn't as quick and easy as some had claimed.

The VW scandal has had a knock on effect for other car manufacturers, it has meant that emissions systems have come under a lot more scrutiny and what was once thought to be perfectly legal means of emission reduction have been brought into question and have caused delays in the development of some new engines.
 
nilagin said:
As far as I'm aware VW have not as yet started fixing cars yet. Basically VW avoided working properly on the emissions of their engines. The emissions plays a part of the development of engines which can take 2yrs or more over all including the rest of the engines development. It could be that the fix isn't as quick and easy as some had claimed.......
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Audi has stated recall for emissions tweak - on the software side of the 2l models. Approx 30-60 mins fix.

Think the 1.6l models require a little hardware fix as well.
 
DorsetDude said:
If mine does ever go back in, Im a bit worried that my mpg will suffer, it's pretty p*ss poor for a 1.6 bluemotion as it is. overall average 42 mg. Could get a huge mondeo or qashqai returning better than that from what I read.
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I have the same concern also. I brought a used Golf 1.6 based on the economy and performance but only averaged 40mpg. I kept complaining and finally got 2 injectors replaced, the MPG went up to 50. Better but still less than expected, as most of my driving is on A roads at 50-60mph. I was trying to get a refund but to do this I had to independently prove the MPG was low due to a fault and not driving style or location. If the fix reduces the MPG again then back to square one. I only changed, from a car that averaged 42mpg regardless of driving style, for better fuel economy. Turns out to be false economy so far.
 
I guess down the line VW will offer owners a fix which they can accept or decline, however it may be that it will be a legal requirement to maintain the low emissions VED and it may be an advisory on future MOTs if the fix has not been applied. Owners may need to supply a certificate of proof.

Also when it comes to resale if it hasn't been patched or fixed it may be difficult to resell.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
I have no intentions to have my car made more thirsty, slower and less reliable. The only real fix was to install urea tank, everything else reeks of scam.
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We are all responsible for the environmental issue. VW is offering to fix the non-compliant engines to make it comply with regulations and make it pollute less. You are going to decline it in your own interest?

Thank you for your selfishness.
 
I think the only sensible solution, if the VW fix reduces fuel economy, is for VW to repay the driver the costs of any new shortfall in his mpg on an ongoing basis. After all, thats why he bought the car in the first place. If he didnt buy the car in the first place for that reason then he can let VW know and they will then not repay him.
 
wuyanxu said:
We are all responsible for the environmental issue. VW is offering to fix the non-compliant engines to make it comply with regulations and make it pollute less. You are going to decline it in your own interest?

Thank you for your selfishness.
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Stop pretending that this will actually save the planet. The fix will do next to nothing other than potentially wrecking the car while also increasing CO2. If you truly care buy an electric feeding on renewable electricity supplies or cycle.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Stop pretending that this will actually save the planet. The fix will do next to nothing other than potentially wrecking the car while also increasing CO2. If you truly care buy an electric feeding on renewable electricity supplies or cycle.
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If it doesn't save the planet, then we shouldn't do it, because every little bit doesn't count?

Incidentally, I do plan to buy Model 3 and charge it using solar panels :)
 
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DorsetDude said:
I think the only sensible solution, if the VW fix reduces fuel economy, is for VW to repay the driver the costs of any new shortfall in his mpg on an ongoing basis. After all, thats why he bought the car in the first place. If he didnt buy the car in the first place for that reason then he can let VW know and they will then not repay him.
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not realy as what would have happened if the government suddenly increased tax on diesel, would vw pay then?
most people buy german brand uber diesels for the badge, fuel econmy is less so.
 
Mr Bump said:
most people buy german brand uber diesels for the badge, fuel econmy is less so.
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That's bull. You don't buy a VW for the badge. The Passat was the biggest and most spacious auto estate with good fuel economy for the price. I am not aware of a similar Toyota offering for example and I looked into Mondeo to find out bunker windows a major turn off point.
A similar Audi A6 is like 2x price. You might buy that for the badge, or perhaps for the extra kit that is inside.
 
DorsetDude said:
I think the only sensible solution, if the VW fix reduces fuel economy, is for VW to repay the driver the costs of any new shortfall in his mpg on an ongoing basis. After all, thats why he bought the car in the first place. If he didnt buy the car in the first place for that reason then he can let VW know and they will then not repay him.
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Unlike America, where VW have already promised compensation to their customers, they have stuck two fingers up to their European customers and said no compensation will be offered.
 
BBR said:
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And then you have to buy adblue to top up the urea tank, and its not cheap.
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It is fairly cheap, widely available and the idea was that VW was going to pay for it all. This is why they are not doing it the proper way.

I am waiting to see if this is what they end up doing in the US. It appears their lawyers get far more done with recalls and make companies fix faulty products, where the same exact faults are never rectified under recall in the UK / EU.
 
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LongLensPhotography said:
It is fairly cheap, widely available and the idea was that VW was going to pay for it all. This is why they are not doing it the proper way.

I am waiting to see if this is what they end up doing in the US. It appears their lawyers get far more done with recalls and make companies fix faulty products, where the same exact faults are never rectified under recall in the UK / EU.
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£3.75 per litre. Not sure how much you would need.
 
BBR said:
£3.75 per litre. Not sure how much you would need.
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http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/diesel/adblue
Model (SCR derivatives only) Tank Size (Approximately) Adblue® tank filler location Initial warning of low AdBlue (2400 km / 1500 miles to go) can be expected to occur at:
Passat 13 litres Next to fuel filler nozzle 4,000 to 6,500 miles or sooner*
Passat Estate 13 litres Next to fuel filler nozzle 4,000 to 6,000 miles or sooner*
Tiguan 12 litres Right-hand side of luggage compartment 3,000 to 4,000 miles or sooner*
Touran 11 litres Next to fuel filler nozzle 3,000 to 4,000 miles or sooner*
Sharan 16 litres Left-hand side of luggage compartment 5,000 to 6,000 miles or sooner*
Touareg 19.5 litres Spare wheel well (in luggage compartment) 6,000 to 7,000 miles or sooner*
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or around 1.5L / £5.60 per tank of fuel.

It is not an outrageous expense but you wouldn't think it is fair to have this extra expense through no fault of your own. It would easily total £2-300 p.a. in my case. That is like having to insure a 2nd passat.
 
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wave01 said:
Vw looking to have to pay $10bn in the USA
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/23/volkswagen-vw-emissions-scandal-settlement

Yep, owners will have a choice between selling their vehicles back to VW at the value before the scandal broke on 18 September 2015, or keeping the cars and letting the company repair them. Either way, they would also get $1,000 to $7,000 depending on their car’s age, with an average payment of $5,000, one of the people said.
 
So far a recall has been rolled out but it's on the less popular models like the Passat CC etc. There slowly coming into dealers but it's being classed as NOX recall and is taking about half hour to do. What the differences are to cars after regards fuel economy and power I don't know.

As for retrofitting Ad-Blue to a car it's not that simple as fitting a tank and an injector into the exhaust for it to work. Unless the car was designed to have Ad-Blue system there doesn't tend to be any space available to mount a tank!
 
robinsslee said:
Got the same letter 7 months ago and heard nothing from Audi... think I'm done with VAG group when my next car is due in 5 months time, Merc or BMW... prepare for my money
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Which Audi do you have ?

The letter will come from Driver & Vehicle Standards Agency...in connection with Audi
 
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LongLensPhotography said:
That's bull. You don't buy a VW for the badge. The Passat was the biggest and most spacious auto estate with good fuel economy for the price. I am not aware of a similar Toyota offering for example and I looked into Mondeo to find out bunker windows a major turn off point.
A similar Audi A6 is like 2x price. You might buy that for the badge, or perhaps for the extra kit that is inside.
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Lol loads of similar sized estates for cheaper money, but the Passat was better specified and had the vw badge and associated branding for a lot of people.
 
Byker28i said:
Lol loads of similar sized estates for cheaper money, but the Passat was better specified and had the vw badge and associated branding for a lot of people.
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Such as?

Audi A6 way too expensive, unless buying pre 2004 models.
Mondeo Titanium X auto - slightly cheaper but visibility all wrong and steep depreciation.
BMW 5 series / Merc E class estate far too expensive and RWD (a big no no)
Toyota Camry not available in UK and no estate / Avensis is like tin can and far too small
Insignia - made like total s*** and appears to disintegrate
Volvo V70 - nearly there, just still a bit too expensive but doable.
A few other rare cars exist with limited spares and scrap supplies and that is an instant no.
Of course we have the SUVs which is what I really want to have but finance appears to be an issue.

You might be underestimating how large Passat is inside.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Mondeo Titanium X auto - slightly cheaper but visibility all wrong and steep depreciation.
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All the evidence I could find pointed to the Mondeo holding it's value better than a lot of the competition, including the Passat. Apart from being cheaper on list price, it is also likely to be more heavily discounted at point of sale, which would also make it's depreciation better.
 
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