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I went to the RWS at Silverstone the other week and was having issues with panning. After having a go with my mates I knew I could do it so played around with some settings on mine and they got better. One thing I changed was I turned off VR on my lens. Does VR cause issues with panning?? As yesterday I went back to Silverstone and forgot to turn off VR when shooting some track shots, and most have come out with a little blur, like its jumped backwards/forwards.

Camera is D90 lens is Nikon 55-200.

So is VR an issue when panning or is it just me? :shrug:
 
There are two modes with most VR systems, fully on (usually 'Mode 1') and just vertical correction (Mode 2)

In theory Mode 2 should work well (it's designed for panning) as it's only correcting up and down movement and leaving your side to side panning motion alone.

In practice I always switch VR completely off when shooting motorsport, even Mode 2 introduces odd movement which puts me off and it has never improved my keeper rate.
 
There is only one switch on my lens, just on or off :lol:

I guess the modes are on more expensive lenses? I got one or two keepers but the others are ever so blurry, which I don't think was entirely me.

So I'd be better to remember to keep it switched off when panning?
 

I would be interested to hear what pro motorsport shooters have to say, as that article states the opposite to my thoughts. I've 'panned' extensively for about 6 years and can consistently manage to pull off some fairly extreme shots at very slow shutter speeds, so I feel my technique is ok. I've used the Nikon VR system and Panasonic Mega OIS and both felt at odds with what I was doing.

I guess if it works for you then great, but I've never felt it has improved my photos in the motorsport field.
 
I have founf that VR is an advantage when I shoot cars driffting, they are going by at about 25-30 mph so I use low shutter speeds to get a blured background otherwise the car looks like it is parked.By having the VR on the car is then sharp,it is just about impossible to pan and get the car sharp and a nice blured background without VR.
When I shoot motorcycles at the world records the bikes are doing 180mph - 240mph as they pass.Shutter speeds of 160th to 800th are used, VR again only shows it's full potential at the lower shutter speeds.I have found it far easier to pan at high speeds 150mph - 200mph than at low speeds.
The reason is, that it is far more difficult to get the blured background with the lower speed vehicles. Once shutter speeds drop to 100th-60th of a second it is impossible to stop the movement of the car on its suspension alone.
 
Personally It depends what subject you are photographing, what speed the subject is travelling at, what lens your are using and getting the right shutter speed / aperture to match to create the right motion blur rather than VR OS IS etc. Correct camera settings and a smooth pan get you the shots.

Shutter speeds of 1/30 1/60 or even 1/125 aren't easy to get right. So apply the 1 over focal length rule explained below to get an idea of somewhere better to start.

A common rule of thumb for estimating how fast the exposure needs to be for a given focal length is the one over focal length rule. This states that for a 35 mm camera, the exposure time needs to be at least as fast as one over the focal length in seconds. In other words, when using a 200 mm focal length on a 35 mm camera, the exposure time needs to be at least 1/200 seconds-- otherwise blurring may be hard to avoid. Keep in mind that this rule is just for rough guidance; some may be able to hand hold a shot for much longer or shorter times than this rule estimates. So for users of digital cameras with cropped sensors, one needs to convert into a 35 mm equivalent focal length, eg 200*1.6 (crop) = 1/320 sec

That will help with setting up the right shutter settings to start with, you can get more adventurous later.

Now, Panning is a technique which requires mastering over time, its not something that you can instantly do and repeat. It require training you body to become familiar with the motion, thus it become almost automatic. What this will achieve is a smooth pan, something that is not easy to master.

Pick up the subject early, focus and pan with the subject, take them image when subject fills 2/3 of the frame, continue the pan after the shot, try and avoid stopping the pan or jerking at the edge will also aid in good results.

You are able to capture pans at slower shutter speeds, but to get everything right in the shot takes practice and a very smooth pan movement, taken at 1/100sec, but generally, I'm taking shots at 1/200 or 1/320 sec because of the speed of the bikes and slightly slower for cars....

1/100 sec
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1/320 sec
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or even 1/640 sec, but still generate motion blur
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300mm f2.8 + 2x TC @ 1/800 sec
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Feet position is important to give you a base from which to pan you body, as describe above, you then need to pick the action up early, panning with the on coming bike/car, then when it fills 2/3 screen start to take your 2 -3 images, recompose and take the next shots, remembering to continue the motion after taking the shots, that's also very important.......

Fire single shots not a burst, bursts are a waste of time for a plain old panning shot. Yes you might miss the moment when Elvis and ET climb out the sun roof and roof surf around the track to the sound of the Beach Boys, but... Concentrate on getting your timing right.

Don't shoot into the sun. That amazing corner you (and everyone else with a camera) has discovered where the cars/bikes come inches away from your face is worthless if you are shooting into the sun. Try to work out if/when the sun will have moved off and come back then.

If it is a bright sunny day, consider using a 1 or 2 stop ND filter to get the shutter speed down. Not a problem normally at 1/250th, but as you slow it down you will have problems.

Slow(ish) pans don't work if the vehicle is not on smooth ground. Its generally rubbish for non-tarmac racing as the bumps blur the subject.

Practice. Lots. Post your results up in the motorsport section on here and let everyone else give you some help - the motorsport section is pretty friendly!

Peter
 
I shot motorbike racing/trackdays for a living for a little while and would never use the VR option, if anything it makes your shots worse (Nikon) haven't used a Cannon set up with VR so I can't comment, but as mentioned OFF is the only option for motorsport in my personal opinion, panning or not!

Few of my pictures relating to panning and VR being turned off :)


#75 - Craig Fitzpatrick by FreshGarm ©2010, on Flickr


Bike Track Day by FreshGarm ©2010, on Flickr


#60 Peter Hickman by FreshGarm ©2010, on Flickr


#8 Tech 9 Lamborghini by FreshGarm ©2010, on Flickr

The exif data is avalable on the above shots, click on the links for more info.

I'll also include a shot of my set up which is the basic essentials for good panning (monopod not on the floor but in flagpole holder attached to a strong belt at waist height)

I can't stress enough that panning is 1000x harder if you have a monopod on the floor, or using a tripod, you might aswell hand hold your camera!

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Rig pictured is Nikon D3 or D2h, Nikon 200-400VR, Manfrotto Monopod sat in a strong leather tube holder and strong army style belt, hope this helps?!

Also can I just say the information from Pete above is excellent, but as he says, you don't learn it over a few weeks. I left college in 2006, and the company I worked for didn't use my shots to sell until well into 2007, it took about a year of training ;)

Sam
 
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Rig pictured is Nikon D3 or D2h, Nikon 200-400VR, Manfrotto Monopod sat in a strong leather tube holder and strong army style belt, hope this helps?!

Cracking post, even for someone who doesn't do any motorsport. Always good to read other peoples advice.

Have you got any pictures of the belt and tube holder? Is it home made?

I have a similar set up (D700 and Nikon 200-400VR2) and when at the horses use a monopod, but it can become a bitch constantly extending and closing the 'pod up. Was thinking about ditching the 'pod but not quite got the arms for it (embarrassed smiley), so that set up you have looks like the kind of thing I need maybe.
 
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