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Following EE’s announcement in June, Voda have announced that they are to bring back roaming charges for overseas trips from January.
 
Surely one of these will NOT do this, as that could attract a lot of customers to them?
 
nah they will all do it, silly not to, loads of money to be had.
my UK sim is with plusnet which are with EE they announced roaming charges to come back but nothing yet from Plusnet.
I will get a greek SIM once i jog off, in the EU most operators have said they will include calling the UK in there plans
 
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lindsay56 said:
Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving...
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I just feel the need...

Pro EC people never blame the EC for the introduction charges tariffs and barriers on a country they've had a very close relationship with for multiple decades. Why must all charges barriers and arbitrary pettiness from the EC be blamed on Brexit? IMO this just shows the EC for vindictive petty bureaucrats they are as things like this could be amicably sorted if the EC would show some willing for once. But, the EC get a pass on blame on all occasions.

Generally though I think that politics should be in the appropriate thread.
 
woof woof said:
I just feel the need...

Pro EC people never blame the EC for the introduction charges tariffs and barriers on a country they've had a very close relationship with for multiple decades. Why must all charges barriers and arbitrary pettiness from the EC be blamed on Brexit? IMO this just shows the EC for vindictive petty bureaucrats they are as things like this could be amicably sorted if the EC would show some willing for once. But, the EC get a pass on blame on all occasions.

Generally though I think that politics should be in the appropriate thread.
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The network operators were obliged to include roaming within the EU by the EU. That was a tangible benefit of being in the EU.
 
As Ricardoforce said. The EU introduced legislation to ban roaming charges. The UK failed to agree to stick with that in the Brexit deal. They could have, but wanted sovereignty back.
 
woof woof said:
I just feel the need...

Pro EC people never blame the EC for the introduction charges tariffs and barriers on a country they've had a very close relationship with for multiple decades. Why must all charges barriers and arbitrary pettiness from the EC be blamed on Brexit? IMO this just shows the EC for vindictive petty bureaucrats they are as things like this could be amicably sorted if the EC would show some willing for once. But, the EC get a pass on blame on all occasions.

Generally though I think that politics should be in the appropriate thread.
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At the risk of derailing, this is not something that can be blamed on the EU. We left their club and so lose the benefits - had this been important to us we would have insisted on this as part of the new deal.

They are not being petty about it. If I am with a bank and chose to cancel my £10 a month customer benefits thing that gets be free phone insurance and x% off my overdraft charges, are they being petty if I chose to leave and then lose out on benefits?
 
At the risk of aborting a new Brexit thread just after conception, I think we should not let this become that.
Let's focus this thread on discovering how the different airtime suppliers handle the situation, rather than allow ourselves anti-Brexit airtime etc.
So...
I believe that GiffGff that I use (reselling O2 airtime) currently allow free roaming. I wonder for how long. I also wonder if some resellers might take a hit on roaming charges to keep/attract customers - there may be competition arising from it?
 
lindsay56 said:
At the risk of aborting a new Brexit thread just after conception, I think we should not let this become that.
Let's focus this thread on discovering how the different airtime suppliers handle the situation, rather than allow ourselves anti-Brexit airtime etc.
So...
I believe that GiffGff that I use (reselling O2 airtime) currently allow free roaming. I wonder for how long. I also wonder if some resellers might take a hit on roaming charges to keep/attract customers - there may be competition arising from it?
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Thats my thought - if a company can grow customers say by 15% with free roaming that could be worth more than charging existing customers £2 a day or whatever.

I would expect 3 to probably lead the way on this?
 
lindsay56 said:
At the risk of aborting a new Brexit thread just after conception, I think we should not let this become that.
Let's focus this thread on discovering how the different airtime suppliers handle the situation, rather than allow ourselves anti-Brexit airtime etc.
So...
I believe that GiffGff that I use (reselling O2 airtime) currently allow free roaming. I wonder for how long. I also wonder if some resellers might take a hit on roaming charges to keep/attract customers - there may be competition arising from it?
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O2 haven’t introduced a roaming charge either, but they have introduced a 25gb data roaming cap.
 
I have just moved over to Vodaphone today from EE to get 5G, now not sure if I should have. I am sure they will all shortly move to the same policy.
 
To all.

It's just gets incredibly irritating seeing anti Brexit whinging from the same vocal remain crowd in thread after thread, even in the gear threads.

I wish you lot could just move on or at least restrict this constant whinging to the political threads.
 
woof woof said:
I just feel the need...

Pro EC people never blame the EC for the introduction charges tariffs and barriers on a country they've had a very close relationship with for multiple decades. Why must all charges barriers and arbitrary pettiness from the EC be blamed on Brexit? IMO this just shows the EC for vindictive petty bureaucrats they are as things like this could be amicably sorted if the EC would show some willing for once. But, the EC get a pass on blame on all occasions.

Generally though I think that politics should be in the appropriate thread.
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Whats vindictive about it? In this case its corporations (Vodafone, O2, EE, etc) that have made the call to bring back roaming costs; nothing to do with the EU.
To use the old example; if you leave the Golf Club why would they still offer you the same rights when your not a member?

Why should people move on? Frankly I hope now that we're in the Covid crisis end-game that the outcome and issues caused by Brexit start to get more focus
 
woof woof said:
To all.

It's just gets incredibly irritating seeing anti Brexit whinging from the same vocal remain crowd in thread after thread, even in the gear threads.

I wish you lot could just move on or at least restrict this constant whinging to the political threads.
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When I started this thread I did not mention politics at all.
However, whether you like it or not, the abolition of roaming charges with in the EU was down to the EU. A tangible benefit to millions of British people travelling to EU countries.
You trying to blame the reintroduction of roaming charges on the EU is both laughable and ignorant.

I gave people you all a heads up regarding this change. Make what you will of it.
 
Another laughing emoji from the ever jovially predictable KitsunAndy.

Good to see the usual rabid pro EC cabal still hammering this all day and all night in thread after thread after losing the referendum and the subsequent election.

Laugh on Andy :ROFLMAO:
 
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woof woof said:
Another laughing emoji from the ever jovially predictable KitsunAndy.

Good to see the usual rabid pro EC cabal still hammering this all day and all night in thread after thread after losing the referendum and the subsequent election.

Laugh on Andy :ROFLMAO:
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What on earth are you babbling on about?


You need to read post 10 by @lindsay

I created this thread about roaming charges. Do you have a view on that or not? If not then why are you reading it?
 
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Ricardodaforce said:
What on earth are you babbling on about?
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I logged on to find I'd received a laughing emoji from a die hard remainer and it just tires me that some of you guys just keep hammering on at Brexit in thread after thread. I do wish it could be dropped or at least kept to the political threads.

It's far too easy to click on a thread and encounter this Brexis whinging with the same old cabal of hard line remainers bashing this topic at every and any opportunity in any and every thread and I'm bored and irritated by the hard line remainers who just wont drop it. We've had the referendum and we've had the election and I think that should be enough to end the remainer whining in thread after thread.

Clear enough?
 
woof woof said:
I logged on to find I'd received a laughing emoji from a die hard remainer and it just tires me that some of you guys just keep hammering on at Brexit in thread after thread. I do wish it could be dropped or at least kept to the political threads.

It's far too easy to click on a thread and encounter this Brexis whinging with the same old cabal of hard line remainers bashing this topic at every and any opportunity in any and every thread and I'm bored and irritated by the hard line remainers who just wont drop it. We've had the referendum and we've had the election and I think that should be enough to end the remainer whining in thread after thread.

Clear enough?
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So, roaming charges, good or bad? Any views?
 
woof woof said:
Another laughing emoji from the ever jovially predictable KitsunAndy.

Good to see the usual rabid pro EC cabal still hammering this all day and all night in thread after thread after losing the referendum and the subsequent election.

Laugh on Andy :ROFLMAO:
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I just found the absolute nonsense in your post really funny tbh.

It's not the EU being vindictive as you tried to claim, it's not a decision the EU have even made. It's a commercial decision that the companies have made now that they're not bound by EU laws and our Govt decided not to introduce the same ban on roaming charges.

It's an indirect consequence of Brexit, that's a fact. The only person who really made it political was you when you started wittering on about "vindictive petty bureaucrats" in the EU.

Don't want people to laugh at your posts? Stop making laughable claims.
 
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woof woof said:
I logged on to find I'd received a laughing emoji from a die hard remainer and it just tires me that some of you guys just keep hammering on at Brexit in thread after thread. I do wish it could be dropped or at least kept to the political threads.

It's far too easy to click on a thread and encounter this Brexis whinging with the same old cabal of hard line remainers bashing this topic at every and any opportunity in any and every thread and I'm bored and irritated by the hard line remainers who just wont drop it. We've had the referendum and we've had the election and I think that should be enough to end the remainer whining in thread after thread.

Clear enough?
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As post #10 , this is not a brexit thread.

Clear enough
 
KitsuneAndy said:
It's a shame Three are doing it, as they were one of the first to offer free roaming. Before it was a law you could use Three mobile allowance in any country where they had a sister company. used it quite a lot in the past, wasn't just Europe either, it was global.
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They have also doing this on non-EU roaming too. Maybe its just a convenient way to raise revenue without increasing mainstream prices (i.e. the same way Quality St is the same price each year but for slightly less each time?)
 
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woof woof said:
I logged on to find I'd received a laughing emoji from a die hard remainer and it just tires me that some of you guys just keep hammering on at Brexit in thread after thread. I do wish it could be dropped or at least kept to the political threads.

It's far too easy to click on a thread and encounter this Brexis whinging with the same old cabal of hard line remainers bashing this topic at every and any opportunity in any and every thread and I'm bored and irritated by the hard line remainers who just wont drop it. We've had the referendum and we've had the election and I think that should be enough to end the remainer whining in thread after thread.

Clear enough?
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You are the one to bring politics into this, and doing all the winging.
Before that, the posts were about roaming charges and why they were reintroduced.

the cause remains the same whatever ones views about Brexit.

The companies are no longer banned from re-introducing them.
They have returned to their bad old ways, now that they are no longer subject to EU regulations.

Make of that what you will.
 
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cambsno said:
They have also doing this on non-EU roaming too. Maybe its just a convenient way to raise revenue without increasing mainstream prices (i.e. the same way Quality St is the same price each year but for slightly less each time?)
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Possibly, I imagine there's more market share that would just like lower cost domestic usage than there are those of us who travel enough to want cheap roaming
 
When I worked in the electricity industry (IT, introducing and developing Change of Supplier etc), there was a frequent question about the benefit to a supplier of attracting customers from a competitor. Back circa 2002, the cost of bringing in a new customer was allegedly circa £50, but margins on supply, especially for re-sellers like Shell, Octopus etc who are not involved in distribution, metering, operations, generation, were/are so small that it could take a couple of years to make that customer a profit-creating asset.
In the mobile business, I imagine airtime capacity reselling is very similar, but with maybe a lower cost of customer acquisition (?). So it is quite likely, given that people switch airtime suppliers fairly infrequently, that there is something to be gained by a reseller buying more bandwidth and offering free or generous roaming limits, as an incentive to attract new customers, because on average most will only use that privilege for a limited period each year. It'll be interesting to see.
 
lindsay said:
So it is quite likely, given that people switch airtime suppliers fairly infrequently, that there is something to be gained by a reseller buying more bandwidth and offering free or generous roaming limits,
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I worked on marketing systems for two of the cellphone providers and both were very keen to track spend against cost and retention. I've no idea what they did with the information once they got it but I'm sure it looked good in their reports... :naughty:
 
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