Van drivers, did you know that......

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FourRingCircus said:
Nearly correct Rich. Law doesn't state anything about a crash barrier (unless it's chaged recently).;)

Dual carriageway with a central reservation 70mph

Dual carriageway without a central reservation 60mph
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Correct.
 
FourRingCircus said:
Nearly correct Rich. Law doesn't state anything about a crash barrier (unless it's chaged recently).;)

Dual carriageway with a central reservation 70mph

Dual carriageway without a central reservation 60mph
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I think some speed awareness course lecturers are quoting that crash barrier thing!

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pollie said:
I think some speed awareness course lecturers are quoting that crash barrier thing!

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The central reservation thing yes, the crash barrier thing not so much, according to a friend that lectures for aaroadsafe and a couple of people that have been on one.
 
mick m said:
This came to light as a friend of mine was nicked for 71mph driving a Transit van on a dual carriageway. He wrote a letter explaining that he had never heard of anyone getting nicked for doing 1mph over the limit. The police wrote back explaing that 7 years ago the law changed regarding vans and he was being done for 11mph over the limit.

The law states that on a dual cariageway where a car can do 70, the limit for a van is 60. On a single carriageway where a car can do 60, for a van its 50.
The only exception to this rule is what they are calling car-derived vans like small Fiesta or Escort vans. So if you drive something like a Vito, Transit or similar panel van, beware.

See here http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelA...G_178867?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=speed_limits

Mick.
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im sure this law on vans goes back much further than 7 years as im sure that it is definatly over 11 years ago i got stopped by the police in my 1st van,a ford transit and given a warning to observe the law.i checked on the internet and have observed the law ever since.
 
Dual carriage way means 2 roads. If there is no central reservation, it is not a dual carriage way, just a multi lane road so speed limited is 60mph.
 
there seems to be no mention of MPV's
is a MPV classed as a car or a van ?
i know my MPV ( imported toyota granvia ) is basically a toyota hiace chassis with seats and windows along with other fixtures and fittings
as far as i am aware it is not classed as a minibus having only 7 seats

so where do you stand with a vehicle like that ??

or a toyota lucida / previa which is another mpv with it's own unique chassis it isn't derived from a car or a van
 
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Dale_d3100 said:
Dual carriage way means 2 roads. If there is no central reservation, it is not a dual carriage way, just a multi lane road so speed limited is 60mph.
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:thumbs: A lot of people think that having two lanes in the same direction is what makes it a dual carriageway :shake:
 
cosmicma said:
there seems to be no mention of MPV's
is a MPV classed as a car or a van ?
i know my MPV ( imported toyota granvia ) is basically a toyota hiace chassis with seats and windows along with other fixtures and fittings
as far as i am aware it is not classed as a minibus having only 7 seats

so where do you stand with a vehicle like that ??

or a toyota lucida / previa which is another mpv with it's own unique chassis it isn't derived from a car or a van
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If it's under two tonnes max laden weight then it can go at the faster speed limit. It's all clearly laid out here https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
 
i had no idea a lot of people are speeding from what i saw on the motorway yesterday.
 
Steep said:
If it's under two tonnes max laden weight then it can go at the faster speed limit. It's all clearly laid out here https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
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iv'e read the gov site and it's still not clear

Cars and vehicles (including car-derived vans up to 2 tonnes max laden weight)
it's not a car derived van but it's kerb weight is 2.1 tonnes

Buses, coaches and minibuses (not more than 12 metres overall length)
it's not a bus coach or minibus

Goods vehicles (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight)
it's not a goods vehicle

so the relevant bit i presume would be van weighing more than 2 tonnes where the granvia is concerned although it isn't a van or a car derived van but it is an MPV based on the chassis of a van

there is no mention of this scenario
 
I'd say with a kerb weight if over 2 tonnes you're in the go slow bracket.
 
I believe MPV are classed as commerical vehicles, that is why they are so popular as it gets around some tax thing with emissions on company vehicles.

This also means they don't have the same safety requirements.
 
So where does a landrover defender xs 90 stand in all this...car or van ?...mine has four seats and windows , although I think landrover themselves class all defenders as commercials ?
 
Stephen white said:
So where does a landrover defender xs 90 stand in all this...car or van ?...mine has four seats and windows , although I think landrover themselves class all defenders as commercials ?
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4x4s are commercial, even silly ones like the rav4. They don't have the same safety standards as normal cars, hence why so many have rolled while swerving to avoid something.
 
cosmicma said:
on the log book mines classed as PLG same as any other car
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Private and Light Goods covers the whole spectrum of vehicles right up to Luton sized vans.
 
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