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HI all, looking for some advise please. I recently (just before Christmas) purchased my first Drone - a DJI Mini 4 Pro. I'm all legal with my Operator ID and Flyer ID, and have been flying it where and when possible to get used to it.

My question is I'm going on holiday in July to one of the Greek islands, and was wondering what the rules were for flying Drones in Greece ? As we are no longer part of the EU, I'm guessing that have a different set of rules etc for there, so if I did want to take my Drone on holiday what would I need to do in advanced please ? I appreciate it's quite a way off but just wanted to get an idea ahead of time.
 
This is old news but a quick scan suggests that the Greeks are still a bit distrustful of cameras. How they feel about drones with cameras is anybody's guess...

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Greece: continuing detention of 12 British and 2 Dutch plane spotters…

Case GRC 261101.1 Arbitrary detention/Fair trial The International Secretariat of OMCT has received new information concerning the following situation in…
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I have an app that is called Drone assist and it tells me where and where I cannot fly as in around airports military places etc etc etc. I also bought insurance from a company called drone cover.
https://www.dronelicense.eu/pages/flying-drones-in-europe Try this site for more info
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
This is old news but a quick scan suggests that the Greeks are still a bit distrustful of cameras. How they feel about drones with cameras is anybody's guess...

www.omct.org

Greece: continuing detention of 12 British and 2 Dutch plane spotters…

Case GRC 261101.1 Arbitrary detention/Fair trial The International Secretariat of OMCT has received new information concerning the following situation in…
www.omct.org www.omct.org
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I worked with one of those detained, albeit after he was released. He never spoke about it.
 
Depend which island. Santorini has a blanket ban so I never took mine.

Crete was fine , depending on the area.
It’s a fairly small island with two airports so a lot is blocked.
Also a lot can be very windy so had to find calm days even in august.
Got Some looks and questions from an old guy but more interested than anything. And I kept flights short and away from people where possible.. I didn’t fly that much to be fair maybe 2/3 short flights bothe trips we took the last two years.



You need to do the EU version of flyers ID.
Ment to be the country that you first fly in but most just do which ever is easiest.. the Greece website is not easy to navigate or make sense off.
I did Luxembourg I think as it’s free and I believe France maybe be also. So have a charge.

I had to use site translate but the actual test is on pdf so can’t be done via google so I had to guess some bits and did fail twice, but it can be sat as many times as you need. 99% of the laws are similar with each country having some variations.

This is the Greece’s own flight aware site

Drone Aware - GR

dagr.hasp.gov.gr dagr.hasp.gov.gr

As for laws as far as I could tell anything under 250g was fine- as uk laws.
Anything over that and you have to tell them the exact flight plan per flight.
Not 100% on that though.
 
I registered for a European flyers ID though the Irish Aviation Authority as I was going to Ireland (Republic of) last year. It took a little more effort and cost a little more than the UK flyers ID. But it does mean I'm valid for European countries and at least the process was in English.
Re insurance, following a recommendation from a colleague who flies for filming work, I registered with FPV UK which gives you £5m Public Liability Cover and £5m Products Liability Cover even with their bronze membership at £25. Their £35 membership includes the CAA registration.
 
as someone who has a house on Crete I personally would say take extreme care, don't take your drone above any personal houses at all in a town whatsoever the greeks can go from 1 to 10 in anger about this in a heart beat and you will end up with the police on your back so fast it will be scary, they will almost definitely confiscate the drone and state an enquiry with the judge is needed etc and it will end badly. the greeks are deeply catholic do near there children is an absolute no.

take it to the mountains yes and maybe on isolated land etc but take extreme care.
 
With the Greeks having such an anti-photography attitude, I would not go there; I have never wished to visit Greece anyway. Definitely not worth risking taking a drone.

Dave
 
I've never had any problems taking photos on Crete. Then again, I don't have a drone and I don't take photos of people without asking them first.
 
Mr Bump said:
as someone who has a house on Crete I personally would say take extreme care, don't take your drone above any personal houses at all in a town whatsoever the greeks can go from 1 to 10 in anger about this in a heart beat and you will end up with the police on your back so fast it will be scary, they will almost definitely confiscate the drone and state an enquiry with the judge is needed etc and it will end badly. the greeks are deeply catholic do near there children is an absolute no.

take it to the mountains yes and maybe on isolated land etc but take extreme care.
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I’ve flown twice in plaka where we stay, Both times out over the sea towards spinalonga and 3 times in agios nikolaos . Once around the harbour side and twice over the lake in the middle of town and no one even batted an eyelid.

Dave Canon said:
With the Greeks having such an anti-photography attitude, I would not go there; I have never wished to visit Greece anyway. Definitely not worth risking taking a drone.

Dave
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Not sure that’s still the case. We have visited Crete twice in two years and Santorini once.

I’ve hundreds of images from Crete from both my camera and walking around and swimming on the beach with a GoPro.
Santorini is literally a photo shoot every few feet. With people queuing at spots.
Seems very relaxed in both places and even had people in restaurants and in public ask if we wanted them to take a pict of us all.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
This is old news but a quick scan suggests that the Greeks are still a bit distrustful of cameras. How they feel about drones with cameras is anybody's guess...

www.omct.org

Greece: continuing detention of 12 British and 2 Dutch plane spotters…

Case GRC 261101.1 Arbitrary detention/Fair trial The International Secretariat of OMCT has received new information concerning the following situation in…
www.omct.org www.omct.org
Click to expand...
This was more to do with the interaction and visit Paul Coppin had with the Turkish Armed Forces before the trip plus the copious notes the group were taking whilst looking through gaps around locked hangar doors;)

Loads of recent visits to shoot the T-2 Buckeyes based at Kalamata before their retirement and last years Ramstein Flag exercise at Andravida Air Base with no issues whatsoever(y)

GC
 
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