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Ok which one would you go for and why?

OPTION ONE

OPTION TWO

I used to be fairly uptogether with PC hard-ware, but I'm not really clued up anymore!
So I have no idea on the pro's and con's of either of these systems.

If I go by price alone, then the dearer of the two technically would be the best one, I guess?

A bit of a daft question probably, but would it be best to do a fresh Windows install when I've done the upgrade?

TIA
 
andy_fozzy said:
Ok which one would you go for and why?

OPTION ONE
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£300. I know very little about AMD processors so can't comment on this one.

OPTION TWO
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£360. i7 2600/unnamed H67 mobo and 8Gb unnamed RAM. That i7 is the locked version that can't be made to go faster by overclocking.

I used to be fairly uptogether with PC hard-ware, but I'm not really clued up anymore!
So I have no idea on the pro's and con's of either of these systems.

If I go by price alone, then the dearer of the two technically would be the best one, I guess?
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CPU chart here
The i7 scores 8912 and the AMD scores 7110. Its only a guide though.

A bit of a daft question probably, but would it be best to do a fresh Windows install when I've done the upgrade?

TIA
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You don't have a choice really. plug a drive with windows from another system in and it will most likely BSOD.

It breaks your budget based on what you have linked to but I will soon be ordering

CPU £234

Mobo £145

RAM £71

Those are Amazon links but I'll buy from whoever is cheapest.

I wouldn't use the cooler that comes with the CPU so that will be the only extra still to buy.
 
none of the above..

Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad, 3.3GHz, HD3000 IGP 850Mhz, 6MB Cache 95W Retail £172.98 inc VAT

Asus P8P67-M Rev.3.0 Intel P67, S 1155, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, RAID SATA, PCIe 2.0 (x16), Micro ATX £93.20 inc VAT

8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10600 (1333), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V £35.76 inc VAT

£311.53 inc posted from scan.co.uk (probably better prices shopping around)

the i5-2500k is just as good day to day as an i7-2600k many people are saying.

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neil_g said:
none of the above..
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Yup. Having switched my i7 out of hyperthreading mode to make it into an i5, I saw a nominal speed drop doing video encoding.

If you want to use the integrated graphics on the i5, you'll need a Z68 board with onboard graphics ;) such as this one:

http://www.ebuyer.com/281367-asus-p...raphics-output-8-channel-audio-atx-p8z68-v-lx at £76.37 from ebuyer.

Otherwise what Neil said.

Yes to a reinstall and you'll need a 64bit OS to access all that memory.
 
PS. Check the prices on ebuyer - the CPU is £1 cheaper there too... It all helps :D
 
RobertP said:
£300. I know very little about AMD processors so can't comment on this one.


£360. i7 2600/unnamed H67 mobo and 8Gb unnamed RAM. That i7 is the locked version that can't be made to go faster by overclocking.


CPU chart here
The i7 scores 8912 and the AMD scores 7110. Its only a guide though.



You don't have a choice really. plug a drive with windows from another system in and it will most likely BSOD.

It breaks your budget based on what you have linked to but I will soon be ordering

CPU £234

Mobo £145

RAM £71

Those are Amazon links but I'll buy from whoever is cheapest.

I wouldn't use the cooler that comes with the CPU so that will be the only extra still to buy.
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Robert, many thanks for the reply.

Some very useful info in there :thumbs:
 
neil_g said:
none of the above..

Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad, 3.3GHz, HD3000 IGP 850Mhz, 6MB Cache 95W Retail £172.98 inc VAT

Asus P8P67-M Rev.3.0 Intel P67, S 1155, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, RAID SATA, PCIe 2.0 (x16), Micro ATX £93.20 inc VAT

8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10600 (1333), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V £35.76 inc VAT

£311.53 inc posted from scan.co.uk (probably better prices shopping around)

the i5-2500k is just as good day to day as an i7-2600k many people are saying.

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Cool, thanks for that Neil.

In your opinion, is this better than the AMD chips?
 
arad85 said:
Yup. Having switched my i7 out of hyperthreading mode to make it into an i5, I saw a nominal speed drop doing video encoding.

If you want to use the integrated graphics on the i5, you'll need a Z68 board with onboard graphics ;) such as this one:

http://www.ebuyer.com/281367-asus-p...raphics-output-8-channel-audio-atx-p8z68-v-lx at £76.37 from ebuyer.

Otherwise what Neil said.

Yes to a reinstall and you'll need a 64bit OS to access all that memory.
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Cheers Andy.

Are the on board graphics ok nowadays?
I remember when I built my first PC that on board GFX wasn't an option!
 
i dont know much about that amd or have first hand experience but from what ive read the bulldozer chips have been a massive disapointment.

on paper the amd is a smidge faster but with a couple of small adjustments the i5-2500k can extract a bit more juice.
 
Bulldozer (AMD) is a disappointment. Slightly faster in some circumstances (as it has 6 real cores), but nowhere near the power efficiency nor overclockability (you'll get an extra 20% out of the setup Neil has suggested). Everyone recommends i5-2500K as the best all rounder.

As to onboard gfx - if all you're doing is photoshop and windows, yes it should be fine. Don't think it can do multi-monitor, but saves the cost of a graphics card.... (you can always add one later if you feel you need to anyway).
 
arad85 said:
As to onboard gfx - if all you're doing is photoshop and windows, yes it should be fine. Don't think it can do multi-monitor, but saves the cost of a graphics card.... (you can always add one later if you feel you need to anyway).
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spec in a slightly higher wattage PSU if you think you ever may want to add in a graphics card. nothing more of a PITA than upgrading a PSU on a existing built machine.
 
arad85 said:
Bulldozer (AMD) is a disappointment. Slightly faster in some circumstances (as it has 6 real cores), but nowhere near the power efficiency nor overclockability (you'll get an extra 20% out of the setup Neil has suggested). Everyone recommends i5-2500K as the best all rounder.

As to onboard gfx - if all you're doing is photoshop and windows, yes it should be fine. Don't think it can do multi-monitor, but saves the cost of a graphics card.... (you can always add one later if you feel you need to anyway).
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Thanks mate.
Mostly PS, Windows, music, video and maybe a bit of flight sim (when I get time!)
I'm not worried about dual monitors.........

Thanks for the info.
The i5 seems to be the way to go then :)
 
neil_g said:
spec in a slightly higher wattage PSU if you think you ever may want to add in a graphics card. nothing more of a PITA than upgrading a PSU on a existing built machine.
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I already have a ThermalTake Tough Power 600 watt which isn't that old.

Should be ok shouldn't it..........
 
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