Unsolved murders in the UK

That's a pretty long list and scary how quick time passes reading some of those :(

I guess with so much crime nothing gets done unless some snippet of info comes through
 
The police have an extremely high success rate when it comes to solving murders, murder seems to be the one crime that has a virtually limitless investigation budget.

But, although the police may (perfectly reasonably) consider a murder solves even if the murderer can't be convicted (suicide, death from another reason, insufficient evidence) those conditions don't help with the statistics.

And, regardless of the quality of the investigation, and regardless of he resouces used, it's obvious that not every crime CAN be solved.
 
As stated that is an incomplete list, I done a DNA swab test a couple of months back for the murder investigation boys.They were just following up on anybody who had reported any vital information at the time of Melanie Roads murder.The guy said you would be surprised at the amount of people that when asked now, do not want to participate with a test.
 
Well from what I can see there, the Police are still working on these cases if new evidence is found.

Two men have been charged on 27th January 2015 for the murder of Nicola Payne in 1991. (y)

...so not sure what else you expect the Police to be doing? @realspeed :thinking:
 
Tigger.ufo said:
...so not sure what else you expect the Police to be doing? @realspeed :thinking:
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Well there is that small matter of Colin Roy Campbell of Glenure in 1752
And Murders and attempted murders mentioned in connection with “Jack the Ripper”. 1888–1902
:D
 
Cobra said:
Well there is that small matter of Colin Roy Campbell of Glenure in 1752
And Murders and attempted murders mentioned in connection with “Jack the Ripper”. 1888–1902
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:rolleyes:
 
I know one of the victim,i went to school with the victim uncle & father,i moved away from the place where it happen,but came back for a visit and saw the both in the pub,we had a long talk,both were devastated by it all and isolated,its a very small town,i you can't help feel somebody holding onto the truth.
 
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Cobra said:
Well there is that small matter of Colin Roy Campbell of Glenure in 1752
And Murders and attempted murders mentioned in connection with “Jack the Ripper”. 1888–1902
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I don`t think evidence or proof were that important back then Chris.....:D
 
fracster said:
I don`t think evidence or proof were that important back then Chris.....:D
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Makes it all more reason that they should have solved them in that case Ade :D
 
Cobra said:
Makes it all more reason that they should have solved them in that case Ade :D
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Indeed, I find it quite odd that unsolved crimes go back that far.

Really, we shipped people to the other side of the world for stealing a loaf of bread for goodness sake. Now they are battering us at cricket.
 
fracster said:
Indeed, I find it quite odd that unsolved crimes go back that far.
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I know I found it a bit weird too, TBH.
Especially as there was 105 year gap to the next unsolved one :D

fracster said:
Really, we shipped people to the other side of the world for stealing a loaf of bread for goodness sake. Now they are battering us at cricket.
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I know its our own fault :D
 
fracster said:
Indeed, I find it quite odd that unsolved crimes go back that far.

Really, we shipped people to the other side of the world for stealing a loaf of bread for goodness sake. Now they are battering us at cricket.
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and any other sport we shipped over with the bread stealers!! :confused:
 
Yv said:
and any other sport we shipped over with the bread stealers!! :confused:
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Now if we had known then, what we know now, would should have castrated them and stopped them breeding :D
It would have been a win win, literally :D
 
I am surprised at some of the light responses to this thread,as i said i know the family on one of the victims and seen the devastation it can cause :(
 
Cobra said:
Well there is that small matter of Colin Roy Campbell of Glenure in 1752
And Murders and attempted murders mentioned in connection with “Jack the Ripper”. 1888–1902
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Yip - James Stewart got himself hanged for the Colin Campbell one. He has never been pardoned. That counts as solved.
 
simonblue said:
I am surprised at some of the light responses to this thread,as i said i know the family on one of the victims and seen the devastation it can cause :(
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Simon, I am pretty sure we all understand [even if we can't begin to imagine] how much devastation the murder of a loved one can be, and doubly so when it goes unsolved, the not knowing who or why must be excruciating and make it very difficult to move on.
However, the 'light' response is twofold - firstly, there is a possibility the thread was started simply in the hope of a general police directed rant, which in light of our current clampdown on threads that get all too heated and over-excited, the response is probably the best way to stop it going that way.
Secondly, as ghoti said much earlier, murder cases always remain open and should any new evidence come forward, the investigations will be resumed. However, the chances of new evidence in some of the earlier cases in that list are at best, several million to one. Can you blame people for being amused that the OP has posted such an extensive list with which to try and make his point? It is also human nature to joke about such realities, because it is a coping mechanism that has got us through many, many horrific events.
However, I am sure the family you know are devastated and I am also pretty sure that as a forum we all wish that they can find peace and the culprit sooner rather then later.
 
Garry Edwards said:
The police have an extremely high success rate when it comes to solving murders
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I am actually very surprised at how much information the police manage to get and generally, how well they do solve murder cases.

Just as a disclaimer - this is from TV documentaries and the news, not from any first hand experience.


Steve.
 
I wonder what percentage these unsolved murders are in relation to all murders committed?
 
Yv said:
Simon, I am pretty sure we all understand [even if we can't begin to imagine] how much devastation the murder of a loved one can be, and doubly so when it goes unsolved, the not knowing who or why must be excruciating and make it very difficult to move on.
However, the 'light' response is twofold - firstly, there is a possibility the thread was started simply in the hope of a general police directed rant, which in light of our current clampdown on threads that get all too heated and over-excited, the response is probably the best way to stop it going that way.
Secondly, as ghoti said much earlier, murder cases always remain open and should any new evidence come forward, the investigations will be resumed. However, the chances of new evidence in some of the earlier cases in that list are at best, several million to one. Can you blame people for being amused that the OP has posted such an extensive list with which to try and make his point? It is also human nature to joke about such realities, because it is a coping mechanism that has got us through many, many horrific events.
However, I am sure the family you know are devastated and I am also pretty sure that as a forum we all wish that they can find peace and the culprit sooner rather then later.
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Ok fair enough,but if it what say about the the OP it was done in very poor taste,and there's alway a chance that like me someone may know somebody on that list,and maybe make them a bit more sensitive on the subject.
 
simonblue said:
Ok fair enough,but if it what say about the the OP it was done in very poor taste,and there's alway a chance that like me someone may know somebody on that list,and maybe make them a bit more sensitive on the subject.
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I too know first hand how an unlawful killing can affect a family.
If the OP was particularly sensitive on the subject, I suspect a "heads up" may have been in order as I believe psychic TP membership is running a bit thin. :-)
 
Not sure I see the value in keeping cases open that are so old that the 'perps' couldnt possibly be alive to face justice...just sayin'
 
Nikon_Nick said:
Not sure I see the value in keeping cases open that are so old that the 'perps' couldnt possibly be alive to face justice...just sayin'
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I'm sure the family's would disagree.
 
simonblue said:
Ok fair enough,but if it what say about the the OP it was done in very poor taste,and there's alway a chance that like me someone may know somebody on that list,and maybe make them a bit more sensitive on the subject.
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The OP started the thread for one reason only. To get a reaction.
 
What is the point of this thread?
Person A gets murdered. It's investigated (and for once Garry is right, everything is thrown at it), but like all crimes sometimes there simply isn't the evidence to convict and no matter how much you throw at it, there will never will be. In some others, depending on what forensic evidence could have been gathered at the time, there may be a chance in the future. But not all evidence that might be usable in the future can be preserved. For example, DNA evidence didn't exist 100 years ago, no one could have foreseen it, so preserving evidence that could or might contain that wouldn't happen.

All of that is common sense. As to be honest is the answer to the question.
 
Nikon_Nick said:
You obviously have, so apologies.
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Yes. The ripper murders have been a great fascination to me since I was a lad. Very interesting once you start digging in, not just the conspiracy theories but a lot of peripheral stuff to, including the families of the victims some of whom can be traced from then through til present. Loads of info out there.
 
BRASH said:
Yes. The ripper murders have been a great fascination to me since I was a lad. Very interesting once you start digging in, not just the conspiracy theories but a lot of peripheral stuff to, including the families of the victims some of whom can be traced from then through til present. Loads of info out there.
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Serious question. Do you think that any descendents of the victims alive today, would still feel some sort of comfort from getting the kind of closure of being told who murdered their relatives after so long?

Edited to add... Same question to everyone else.
 
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