United Airlines training video.

LOL, this came up on my Facebook feed today, bloody hilarious. Tell you the truth, I don't fly so much these days but if I did I tell ya, it would never fly with united airlines.
 
it would never fly with united airlines.
"They" say that there is no such thing as bad publicity, but I think they really have shot themselves in the foot over this!
 
Whilst I've flown with United many many times, and have no complaints personally, their latest escapades are a bit ugly.
 
Whilst I've flown with United many many times, and have no complaints personally, their latest escapades are a bit ugly.
I flew with them once, years ago, I and another "Single" passenger were pulled to one side and made to wait for quite awhile,
It was obvious what was going on, but eventually we both boarded.
So no complaints, from me, but they really did over step the mark on this one!
 
Great, I travel with them in May!!!

My understanding is that most airlines over subscribe and that while it seems poor these passengers were taken off the plane rather than at check in/pre boarding, at the end of the day the guy should not have resisted and tried to re-board.
 
Great, I travel with them in May!!!

My understanding is that most airlines over subscribe and that while it seems poor these passengers were taken off the plane rather than at check in/pre boarding, at the end of the day the guy should not have resisted and tried to re-board.
So it was his fault? At the end of the day the airline shouldn't have dragged him off like that.
 
The 'problem' was that the passenger resisted being removed, which placed him in the legal wrong. He's probably got no chance in court now.
 
The 'problem' was that the passenger resisted being removed, which placed him in the legal wrong. He's probably got no chance in court now.
I'd like to see what the outcome would be if it went to court.
I think the only way this will end up in court will be if the passenger decides to sue to airline.
 
Seems the United share price has taken a slide..... some US commentators are pointing at the airline being propped up by the government and the CEO's multiple company internal posts, the first of which put the blame on the victim, sorry fare paying passenger, then on the Chicago airport officers does not fit with his being a 'Communicator of the year award winner'! This story may be a popcorn moment.
 
So far it has theoretically cost $300.
ooops!
They shouldn't overbook a plane, and things like this don't happen. :rolleyes:
Absolutely! "If" people just don't turn up, I assume they keep the fare.
So the seats are paid for, that's being greedy trying to get double bubble on the seat ;)
 
Common practice in the leisure industry.
That doesn't surprise me either..
Trying to be greedy for a few hundred quid,
255 million $$ off the share price last I heard.
CEO's resignation called for ( but he refused)
I suspect this isn't going away any time soon...
 
You'd be surprised at how much it brings in* ;)
I guess over the course of a year, quite a few quid ;)

although, in this instance it looks to have backfired spectacularly!
Let's hope they have a re-think, but I doubt that either.
 
Can't think why it wasn't sorted at the checkin stage.
That seems to be the general consensus, and then to accuse the passenger of being belligerent and disruptive was the icing on that particular cock up.
I guess if someone was trying to haul me out of my seat I may have been a tad put out too.
 
That seems to be the general consensus, and then to accuse the passenger of being belligerent and disruptive was the icing on that particular cock up.
I guess if someone was trying to haul me out of my seat I may have been a tad put out too.

Indeed. UA deserve all they get from this.
 
Indeed. UA deserve all they get from this.

All they'll "get" is a minor dent of a few hundred k off their bottom line.
Long term, they'll be fine.
 
The way the whole thing came across to me was :-

1) He was selected at random for calling off of the flight, he refused the cash offer telling them he was Dr with patients awaiting his return.
2) UA staff instead of simply(?) trying the cash offer on other passengers go the airport police in and it was them that forcibly removed him
3) None of the watching passengers confirmed the CEO's statement that the the Dr was obstructive & beligerant
4) The CEO stuck to his guns that the Dr was 100% to blame for what transpired
5) it was not clear how the Dr ended up back on the plane?

If they are going to overbook they should do the "please can we bump you and here is the money......" at the checkin desk not when the plane is full and getting ready for departure!

The CEO's mealymouthed turnaround is beyond the pale in customer relations!
 
On top of that the airline pointed media at a different doctor with the same name to try to discredit him. The CEO has been forced to backtrack on his original statement that the staff did no wrong.
Legal action has begun, with a court order to make united keep all documentation about the incident.
United have refunded all passengers the cost of their flight due to their distress, there are reports that other passengers are seeking legal options over the distress, including the person in the seat the dr was forced against causing the injuries, blood over them etc.

This sort of publicity doesn't go away, several memes, jokes etc stick in the memory and get brought up again and again.
 
... there are reports that other passengers are seeking legal options over the distress
Of course, where there's a claim, there's blame .. somewhere, some how ;)
 
On top of that the airline pointed media at a different doctor with the same name to try to discredit him. The CEO has been forced to backtrack on his original statement that the staff did no wrong.
Legal action has begun, with a court order to make united keep all documentation about the incident.
United have refunded all passengers the cost of their flight due to their distress, there are reports that other passengers are seeking legal options over the distress, including the person in the seat the dr was forced against causing the injuries, blood over them etc.

This sort of publicity doesn't go away, several memes, jokes etc stick in the memory and get brought up again and again.

Gets better all the time

The Daily Mail has just paid off Ivanka £2m + and published the details of Dr Dao's 'salacious' past...... oh hang on... There will be a good few lawyers relishing the layers of litigation on this one.

Beyond a Ratner moment!
 
They shouldn't overbook a plane, and things like this don't happen. :rolleyes:
It's not that simple.

All scheduled airlines overbook. They know that there will always be a certain percentage of no-shows so overbooking allows them to operate with a higher average 'load factor', i.e. a higher percentage of the seats occupied. That in turn allows them to offer lower fares, which is what most customers want more than anything else and which is evidenced by the success of 'no-frills' carriers.

And over booking works. In the 1990s, major airlines typically operated with load factors around 65-70%. These days, it's typically around 80-85%.

So if one airline decides not to overbook, immediately it's giving its competitors a price advantage of around 20%. That's commercial suicide.

Absolutely! "If" people just don't turn up, I assume they keep the fare.
So the seats are paid for, that's being greedy trying to get double bubble on the seat ;)
It doesn't work like that.

Some people are no-shows because they have flexible tickets which don't tie them to a specific flight. So they'll have a seat reserved on one flight, but if the business meeting over-runs or something else happens they'll switch to a different flight. They've paid handsomely for that privilege, but at the end of the day they've paid for one seat and they get one seat, so no double-counting.

Of course, some people who are no-shows have tickets which are restricted to that flight and won't be getting a refund. But that effectively cross-subsidises and reduces the price of the tickets for the passengers who do show up.

You can't accuse airlines of making excess profits because they don't make excess profits. In fact, most of the time most airlines don't make any profit at all.
 
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You can't accuse airlines of making excess profits because they don't make excess profits. In fact, most of the time most airlines don't make any profit at all.


Yeah I also wish I wasn't making that profit too
In a trading update, the budget airline (easy jet) said it expected pre-tax profits to be in the range of £490m to £495m for the 12 months to 30 September, compared with £686m the previous year, a decline of about 28%.
 
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