UK Heatwave Part 2

A lady walking past my house yesterday at 1 pm walking her dog. A black dog, and not a youngster. She was carrying a sunshade (the lady, not the dog) so that was all right then. I've had a little dig at her before, without being nasty or confrontational about it, but she just makes excuses and takes no notice :headbang:
 
JohnC6 said:
Not off topic atall. Good rant. I love to read a rant..I'm partial to them myself...:D Anyway, energy costs are the talk of every phone-in and news bulletin in conjunction with this hot weather..ie what's coming down the line as we move into autumn and winter. A lot of electricity-consuming items there.

That standing charge is an absolutre rip-off. Ours is 48p a day. The poor people who can only pay 'as you go' are charged even more. 53p per day. That's punishment for having the bad fortune of being poor.Agree re utilities/transport snot being in private hands.
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Not true at all the increase in the standing charge was mainly to pay the energy companies back for taking on the people from the companies that failed.
by taking these people on they were essentially selling them gas/leccy at a loss but to stop people getting cut off the law makes energy companies step in and help out.
if you want to blame anybody blame the w******s that signed up for the cheapest energy on the market being run by a one man band based in wigan as the business models of these companies was pathetic , they had limited cash reserves, worked on impossibly small margins and didnt have any plans for the future or rises, they just bailed out and the directors drove home in there expensive BMWs... You can blame the big companies all you like but they are the ones keeping the lights on not our pathetic BREX (SH)it government
 
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Jannyfox said:
A lady walking past my house yesterday at 1 pm walking her dog. A black dog, and not a youngster. She was carrying a sunshade (the lady, not the dog) so that was all right then. I've had a little dig at her before, without being nasty or confrontational about it, but she just makes excuses and takes no notice :headbang:
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If it’s to warm for the human to be out it’s definitely too hot for the dog, we often had pleasant 1am walks in the past.
 
mj4456 said:
If it’s to warm for the human to be out it’s definitely too hot for the dog, we often had pleasant 1am walks in the past.
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Absolutely. Every dog in the village gets walked early morning/late evening, except this poor thing. However.........when I drove past today lady seemed to be trying to persuade dog out out the door but I think the dog was having none of it. It has a lot more sense than she has
 
Mr Bump said:
Not true at all the increase in the standing charge was mainly to pay the energy companies back for taking on the people from the companies that failed.
by taking these people on they were essentially selling them gas/leccy at a loss but to stop people getting cut off the law makes energy companies step in and help out.
if you want to blame anybody blame the w******s that signed up for the cheapest energy on the market being run by a one man band based in wigan as the business models of these companies was pathetic , they had limited cash reserves, worked on impossibly small margins and didnt have any plans for the future or rises, they just bailed out and the directors drove home in there expensive BMWs... You can blame the big companies all you like but they are the ones keeping the lights on not our pathetic BREX (SH)it government
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My bold..

Coincidentally, today I heard a radio discussion about the recent crisis in energy prices and the role of the standing charge came up and whoever was answering listeners questions said exactly that. As you went on to say....there just weren't any meaningful checks (if any atall) done on newcomers in the energy market and many have gone bust which is being paid for by those who are left hence the rise in charges.

However, I didn't say that the increase in standing charges is a rip-off. I said 'standing charges are a rip-off'. Well, they appear to be. For a start they vary according to regions, suppliers gas or electricity or dual and...I think but stand to be corrected.. whether you're on pay-as-you-go or direct debit..I'm not sure on this last one.

Here are the three reasons for them.

1. Maintaining the energy networks, wires, and pipes that carry gas and electricity to your home...........Fair enough.Same with the telephone..landline. I don't know about mobiles.

2. Connecting to the energy network. ........That was done when the house was built in the 70's.

3. Conducting meter readings.. ......We supply the reading to Octopus. I haven't seen a reader for a couple of years. Also, smart meters are being rolled out. I assume that is to do away with the cost of meter readers.

Anyway, there's such an outcry about the standing charge because of the rise re this crisis that Ofgem is reviewing the charging regime. They've basically gone under the radar until this crisis brought down the minnows leading to a rise in the standing charge because people complained that no matter how much less energy they used they can do nothing re the standing charge. Martin Lewis also waded in on the issue and gave an explanation about how the level of the cap affects the standing charge.
 
My wife is visiting her friend in Verwood,Dorset today and returning on Sunday. Tomorrow she's going to the annual Ellingham Show. They were going to take her friend's dog and if it got too hot the friend's husband would take it back to Verwood, 10 miles, I believe. I suggested they don't take the dog atall. As it's turned out ,because of the heat, dogs are not allowed on site and the organisers have cancelled the 'dog show'.

I forgot to move the patio brolley after a sit down at 2.15 today and whenI did go back to the table the sun the thermomneter had been in direct sunlight..just vas people are and it was reading 42C..that's 107.6F in old money. The last time I experienced heat like this..apart from last week was when I walked out of a hotel at 2.00pm in Phoenix AZ and that was the first time I'd experienced such heat. Goodness knows how they cope with it in the Middle East..Iraq at 50C,I read. They wear that long garment..a thobe but nevertheless....
 
Hosepipe bans are being introduced. I think a couple have already been introduced.

Would anyone one here 'have a word' with your neighbour if you saw them using a hosepipe assuming there's a ban in your region. ?

I heard a radio chat a day or so ago and the studio guests were asked if they would say anything to a neighbour who used a hosepipe in the garden or to clean the car. Down to a man..and a women,they said they would. In a nice way. I don't think you can tell someone 'in a nice way' not to to use a hose because there's a ban without ruffling feathers. It would be much better to see if the neighbour used the hosepipe each evening..for example..and then report the incident to a hot line..no pun intended..and the address can be put on the list for a drone to take a look. I've heard that water companies will use drones to detect any breaches of the ban.
 
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My wife is visiting her friend in Verwood,Dorset today and returning on Sunday. Tomorrow she's going to the annual Ellingham Show. They were going to take her friend's dog and if it got too hot the friend's husband would take it back to Verwood, 10 miles, I believe. I suggested they don't take the dog atall. As it's turned out ,because of the heat, dogs are not allowed on site and the organisers have cancelled the 'dog show'.

I forgot to move the patio brolley after a sit down at 2.15 today and whenI did go back to the table the sun the thermomneter had been in direct sunlight..just vas people are and it was reading 42C..that's 107.6F in old money. The last time I experienced heat like this..apart from last week was when I walked out of a hotel at 2.00pm in Phoenix AZ and that was the first time I'd experienced such heat. Goodness knows how they cope with it in the Middle East..Iraq at 50C,I read. They wear that long garment..a thobe but nevertheless....
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As I was born in Melbourne Australia I can remember some very hot summers in the 1960s being over 45C as a little boy growing it never bothered me, now in the UK and I can't stand this heat at all.
 
Fuji Dave said:
As I was born in Melbourne Australia I can remember some very hot summers in the 1960s being over 45C as a little boy growing it never bothered me, now in the UK and I can't stand this heat at all.
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We become less tolerant with things like that as we get older, I suppose. My wife is really struggling with the heat and stays inside. It isn't bothering me so much until it hits 35C.
 
JohnC6 said:
My bold..

Coincidentally, today I heard a radio discussion about the recent crisis in energy prices and the role of the standing charge came up and whoever was answering listeners questions said exactly that. As you went on to say....there just weren't any meaningful checks (if any atall) done on newcomers in the energy market and many have gone bust which is being paid for by those who are left hence the rise in charges.

However, I didn't say that the increase in standing charges is a rip-off. I said 'standing charges are a rip-off'. Well, they appear to be. For a start they vary according to regions, suppliers gas or electricity or dual and...I think but stand to be corrected.. whether you're on pay-as-you-go or direct debit..I'm not sure on this last one.

Here are the three reasons for them.

1. Maintaining the energy networks, wires, and pipes that carry gas and electricity to your home...........Fair enough.Same with the telephone..landline. I don't know about mobiles.

2. Connecting to the energy network. ........That was done when the house was built in the 70's.

3. Conducting meter readings.. ......We supply the reading to Octopus. I haven't seen a reader for a couple of years. Also, smart meters are being rolled out. I assume that is to do away with the cost of meter readers.

Anyway, there's such an outcry about the standing charge because of the rise re this crisis that Ofgem is reviewing the charging regime. They've basically gone under the radar until this crisis brought down the minnows leading to a rise in the standing charge because people complained that no matter how much less energy they used they can do nothing re the standing charge. Martin Lewis also waded in on the issue and gave an explanation about how the level of the cap affects the standing charge.
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It's not just the standing charge that differs according to the region you live in whether you pay as you go or by direct debit or a prepay meter so does the price you pay for your gas and electric.
 
I wish someone would tell the weather down here that it shouldn't be 27° C now...
 
Nod said:
I wish someone would tell the weather down here that it shouldn't be 27° C now...
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It was 31C at the same time yesterday here. It is much fresher now, but already 21C.
 
Nod said:
I wish someone would tell the weather down here that it shouldn't be 27° C now...
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Much about the same here, today, rain due 17:00 here's hoping
 
I's a much more comfortable 20° C here today and a little light rain.
 
25°C in the same spot that it was 27° at 20:13 yesterday. The 2 or 3 minutes of rain we had this morning has dried up and left it a bit muggy but it doesn't feel thundery. Good day for watering the container plants - still got 1 full water butt.
 
Didn't feel thundery 27 minutes ago but sure as hell sounds like it now!!! Proper rain too, although I'm not sure it'll fill the empty butts.
 
Nod said:
Didn't feel thundery 27 minutes ago but sure as hell sounds like it now!!! Proper rain too, although I'm not sure it'll fill the empty butts.
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This evenings rain has now disappeared from the forecast.
Midnight is the earliest, of course that'll change too.
 
We had some rain still feels really hot though, forecast was it to cool down
 
Now hoping that we don't get held up on the course tomorrow - IF we don't, we should get in shortly before the 44% chance of rain at 12:00. Brightening up here now and thunder's stopped.
 
Rain started around me at 7.30pm Sunday, thunder and lightning overnight, still raining now, roads all around experiencing flooding, so glad we stay on high ground.
 
mj4456 said:
Rain started around me at 7.30pm Sunday, thunder and lightning overnight, still raining now, roads all around experiencing flooding, so glad we stay on high ground.
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I'm desperate to see a thunderstorm .So deperaste I'd even pray :D I haven't seen one..a proper one since my last US storm chasing trip in 2014.

Today we had 18 drops of rain. I counted them. :) I think we might do better tomorrow,though. As ever, the south and especially the SE will get TS's.
 
Still nothing here at all ..
 
Very uncomfortable here, 27C in the house, most of the windows open. I am hoping for rain today. My wife works around 20 miles away and got back yesterday after driving through torrential rain - nothing here, absolutely bone dry.
 
Still nothing here :(

Might resort to full polishing and waxing of my cars, that never fails to make it rain
 
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Still raining here, puddles forming in the garden, thunder and lightning gone so it’s safe for herself to come out from behind the chair!
 
It rained hard about midnight for 10 mins, that was it.
The odd spot occasionally now, low 20's.
More rain forecast for this evening here, and into the night.
Lets hope so.
 
There's a strange noise in the air and some water falling from it :thinking:

..very short lived, but atleast it we've had something now :woot:
 
Not quite drizzle when we set off on the 1st tee and the person who did put on his waterproof jacket got wetter from sweat than the other 2 of us who didn't bother! It had stopped completely by the 3rd tee anyway.
 
Its been raining here since late morning now, and the distant rumble of thunder occasionally.
It seems it's now set for the rest of the day, and into the night..
 
Since my earlier post, it's been raining fairly constantly so the water butt is now full!
 
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