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Another bunch of thugs and wannabe dictators, who are no part of any solution.
 

Tyre Extinguishers , new activist group popping pointless SUV drivers tyres.​

interesting point tho, children are 8x more likely to die if hit by an SUV?



Are you a supporter of mindless vandalism?
 
This particular 'action' does come across as vandalism dressed up as socio-political activism :(
 

Tyre Extinguishers , new activist group popping pointless SUV drivers tyres.​

interesting point tho, children are 8x more likely to die if hit by an SUV?

Sadiq Khant mayor of London is driven around in an armoured Range Rover but they haven’t got the balls to target him, just another bunch of mentally ill louts.
 
As the incident was a one off, this does appear to be a particularly stupid action. I know there are SUVs everywhere but what is the point of damaging SUVs in Exeter when the tragic incident happened in Wimbledon?

Looking at the photo of what happened it doesn't seem the vehicle being a SUV was significant - I'm guessing the fence it went through was like the one we can see, so any vehicle would have demolished it, and any vehicle could have, unfortunately, reached the children.

What, I wonder, would this group have done if the vehicle involved had been any other large vehicle?

Dave
 
As the incident was a one off, this does appear to be a particularly stupid action. I know there are SUVs everywhere but what is the point of damaging SUVs in Exeter when the tragic incident happened in Wimbledon?

Looking at the photo of what happened it doesn't seem the vehicle being a SUV was significant - I'm guessing the fence it went through was like the one we can see, so any vehicle would have demolished it, and any vehicle could have, unfortunately, reached the children.

What, I wonder, would this group have done if the vehicle involved had been any other large vehicle?

Dave
When I saw on the news bulletin at the time, the situational risk at the school building I did wonder why that road/pavement didn't have sturdy roadside posts to mitigate for vehicles leaving the road and smashing through the fence?

I know "highways" and local authorities cannot mitigate all locations but where there is even a small bend/change of road direction AND a school or similar establishment, surely that is one such place needing mitigation :thinking:
 
Are you a supporter of mindless vandalism?

did i say i was, i find it an interesting side of what people think about some of the Behavior of the insanely wealthy in society where ones wealth exceeds ones social responsibility.
I don't condone the actions of these people but once again we do need to raise awareness on these silly vehicles in society.
 
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i find it an interesting side of what people think about some of the Behavior of the insanely wealthy in society where ones wealth exceeds ones social responsibility

Pretty much everyone in our little group here is insanely wealthy compared to many parts of the world, yet we don't sell our excess stuff and give it to those in extreme need. Is there anyone here whose sense of social responsibility exceeds their wealth? Some of us even have multiple homes and several vehicles.
 
While I don’t condone vandalism and anyone who damages other people’s property I can see that owning and driving one of those things in a city centre isn’t exactly road safety friendly to other road users , last time out on my motorbike I had one tailgating me through the village if I had to stop suddenly I would have had no chance and someone on a bicycle wouldn’t stand much chance either
 
A lot of this particular dealership's business is with farmers who have a genuine need for such vehicles and the dealership is on the edge of the trading estate so an easy target. Always makes us laugh when we pass the local XR HQ and they've left the lights on...
 
So, who made them judge and jury?
My needs have changed, and so I have now replaced my heavy-duty off-roader with an ordinary family car, but until that happened I needed that car both for use on our farm and for a lot of towing.

And yet my main address isn't the farm and the car was normally parked in a quiet residential street just 7 miles from a city. If these self-important vandals had seen my car they would probably have assumed that it was fair game.
 
There are lots of reasons people need a suv or 4x4 ,age mobility, comfort , towing ability , etc. what gives some jumped up anarchists the right to be judge and jury and destroy property ..
 
did i say i was, i find it an interesting side of what people think about some of the Behavior of the insanely wealthy in society where ones wealth exceeds ones social responsibility.
I don't condone the actions of these people but once again we do need to raise awareness on these silly vehicles in society.

Why are they silly?

More comfortable for many than a traditional car due to seating position, lots of space for teenagers, lots of space for holidays or hobbies. I used to have a Kia Sportage, great as kids had loads of room in back, could get my inflatable kayak and paddlebaord plus all the bits in the large boot.
 
This isn't a one off incident. They have been doing this for over a year. They need to be locked up.
 
There are lots of reasons people need a suv or 4x4 ,age mobility, comfort , towing ability , etc. what gives some jumped up anarchists the right to be judge and jury and destroy property ..
I passed my driving test, more than 50 years ago, in a long wheelbase Landrover.

I sold it a year later because my wife thought it wasn't baby friendly. It would have been good if those modern 4x4s had been available but the only choice at the time was a Range Rover - well out of my price range.

We were living in rural Devon, so the Landy was protective camouflage for a townie like me, when my Devonian wife wasn't around to apologise for me! :naughty:
 
Re: SUV

My Ford Kuga has SUV type body 'style' but is low emission compliant to ULEZ requirements.

Would those tyre vandals see it as a target........

PS if they are motorists I wonder how clean running their cars are?
 
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My "SUV" is a 1.7 diesel, which does 50mpg+. I bought it after a cruciate ligament problem as I struggled getting in and out of my saloon car (which did 25mpg!). Environmentally friendly? Probably not in terms of soot etc. but I've saved a fortune since I got it and therefore, in my case, it's probably much more environmentally friendly than the V6 petrol was!

 
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Don’t think a fiat 500 would tow my caravan anyway
 
Slashing tyres is hardly an eco-friendly way of protest :thinking:
I *think* the original way of protesting was simply letting the air out. It's somewhere between annoying and massively inconvenient but it doesn't cause actual damage (either to anything or the environment - as you say, replacing tyres is not very eco). Even better it could be done without tools (so no "going equipped") and possibly isn't illegal (yet).

But then yeah, extremists.....

I believe in this case it wasn't about the eco damage of SUVs. Children had been killed, people were angry. A small minority will always look to "do something about it" as away of dealing with their emotions. I can think of better ways.
 
... somewhere between annoying and massively inconvenient ... and possibly isn't illegal (yet).
It is a summary offence, under the Road Traffic Act 1988, to get onto a vehicle on a road or local authority car park or to tamper with its brakes or other part of its mechanism without lawful authority or reasonable cause.
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So yes, it is illegal.
 
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It is a summary offence, under the Road Traffic Act 1988, to get onto a vehicle on a road or local authority car park or to tamper with its brakes or other part of its mechanism without lawful authority or reasonable cause.
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So yes, it is illegal.
Yeah, you'd want a lawyer to argue whether the tyre valve mechanism is part of the mechanism of the car.

Also, the way it's quoted there (and I haven't bothered to look up the original wording), you could argue that such tampering only applies on a road or local authority car park.

So possibly not illegal yet :)
 
So possibly not illegal yet :)
...in which case it should be made illegal.

Or: make it legal to take a piece of 2x2 to anyone who does something like that to your car?
 
Looking at the photo of what happened it doesn't seem the vehicle being a SUV was significant - I'm guessing the fence it went through was like the one we can see, so any vehicle would have demolished it, and any vehicle could have, unfortunately, reached the children.
If it wasn't an unnecessarily high SUV, there is a higher chance the child may be alive. High SUV have a higher chance of fatality than lower cars.

I personally consider the SUV in the accident excessively oversized for the area of the road it has been used in. A regular sized family hatchback would have MUCH lower frontal grill area, there is a much higher chance a child to go over the bonnet and survive.
 
I would suggest that the driver's dangerous driving was more to blame for the deaths than the type of vehicle.
 
I would suggest that the driver's dangerous driving was more to blame for the deaths than the type of vehicle.

yes do agree in this instance whatever type of vehicle it was the person driving dangerously that was the issue but as wyx posted above if something like a Range Rover hits a child they are less likely to survive
In my case riding my motorbike I do feel threatened when someone driving one of those things is driving really close behind me , maybe I’ve been unlucky lately but it’s happened a couple of times recently been tailgated by one in a 30 limit but of course the majority of people driving are careful it’s the minority of dangerous idiots that stand out and they can drive or ride any kind of vehicle
 
I would suggest that the driver's dangerous driving was more to blame for the deaths than the type of vehicle.
Absolutely. And I suspect it's a case of pedal confusion.

But the statistical chance of survivability goes up if it wasn't high SUV.
 
If the unfortunate victims were sitting on the yellow mat just behind the crashed vehicle, it would have made no difference to the survivability.
 
Must admit, I'm now getting tired of the vocal minority committing crimes in the name of "causes". Utterly ridiculous. I personally loathe these idiotic SUVs driven by incompetent drivers but that's not the way to protest and it's still everyone's lawful right to drive what they please.

I'm similarly outraged at schools accepting 2400 different genders and teaching that to my child. The world has become as ridiculous as I knew it would be 40 years ago and the UK has become an over-tolerant cesspool of incomprehensible politics.
 
This isn't a one off incident. They have been doing this for over a year. They need to be locked up.

Quote from their site
We are The Tyre Extinguishers.

We are people from all walks of life with one aim: To make it impossible to own a huge polluting 4x4 in the world’s urban areas. We are defending ourselves against climate change, air pollution and unsafe drivers.

We do this with a simple tactic: Deflating the tyres of these massive, unnecessary vehicles, causing inconvenience for their owners.

Deflating tyres repeatedly and encouraging others to do the same will turn the minor inconvenience of a flat tyre into a giant obstacle for driving massive killer vehicles around our streets.

We’re taking this action because governments and politicians have failed to protect us from these huge vehicles. Everyone hates them, apart from the people who drive them.

https://www.tyreextinguishers.com/

Suggest purchasing a set of locking tyre valve caps
 
They state that they will not rest until every SUV has been driven out of urban areas citing enviromental reasons

I dispute their claim regarding the enviromental impact of SUVs, "is greater than cruise ships", citing an article by Transport and Enviroment, Europe's leading campagn group for clean transport (and has been around for 30 years). A tale of two cities, Venice and Southampton. When the cruise ship industry was mothballed due to the pandemic, the Venetians discovered their air was much cleaner and decided a permenant ban on cruise vessels over a certain size. Southampton Docks now has cruise ships at pre pandemic levels and is cited as oe of the worst polluted cities in Europe. There are several, where ship emissions are greater than all the citiy's cars put together

https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/southampton-suffering-some-of-the-worst-cruise-ship-pollution-in-europe-study/#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20Southampton%20ranked,of%20the%20city's%2093%2C000%20cars.
 
And that's exactly why there a proposed law saying you could be arrested for thinking about protesting.
Unless I've misread the proposal entirely, it says nothing of the kind.

It simply allows a police officer, having good reason to think that a person is intending to cause harm or distress others in pursuit of a protest, to search the suspected person for evidence of such an intent.

I strongly support the right to make your feeling known in public but I even more strongly support the right of everyone to go about their legitimate business in peace.
 
wow looks like a lot of Donald Trump Supports around these parts
 
They state that they will not rest until every SUV has been driven out of urban areas citing enviromental reasons

I dispute their claim regarding the enviromental impact of SUVs, "is greater than cruise ships", citing an article by Transport and Enviroment, Europe's leading campagn group for clean transport (and has been around for 30 years). A tale of two cities, Venice and Southampton. When the cruise ship industry was mothballed due to the pandemic, the Venetians discovered their air was much cleaner and decided a permenant ban on cruise vessels over a certain size. Southampton Docks now has cruise ships at pre pandemic levels and is cited as oe of the worst polluted cities in Europe. There are several, where ship emissions are greater than all the citiy's cars put together

https://www.transportenvironment.org/discover/southampton-suffering-some-of-the-worst-cruise-ship-pollution-in-europe-study/#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20Southampton%20ranked,of%20the%20city's%2093%2C000%20cars.
Oh wow didn’t know that
It’s a fair point about cruise ships pollution being greater than cars there is no calls to ban them in the uk and new diesel cars are cleaner than they used to be
My issue with Range Rover type vehicles was more to do with road safety though
 
Oh wow didn’t know that
It’s a fair point about cruise ships pollution being greater than cars there is no calls to ban them in the uk and new diesel cars are cleaner than they used to be
My issue with Range Rover type vehicles was more to do with road safety though
My understanding is that the problem comes from all ships, cruise ships get some attention simply because they are unnecessary and their journeys are frivolous. During the worst of the Coronavirus pandemic, when all shipping movements were severely curtailed, ship pollution dropped dramatically. The problem is caused by using the cheapest and most polluting fuel, there is at least a partial answer, but nobody wants to pay any extra for the goods they buy, so nothing gets done about it.

I remember that some British ports now require visiting ships to hook up to the port electricity system, which is very expensive, rather than run their own very polluting auxillary engines that provide power in port, but that hasn't gone down well. From memory, full details are available on the Private Eye website.

Commercial aircraft cause a lot of pollution too, because they cruise at very high altitudes people are only concerned about the level of pollution around airports, but we should all be concerned about other pollution too.

As for cars, we obsess about borh fuel consumption and pollution, but modern engines are extremely efficient.My own pathetic little VW Golf uses very little diesel and the pollution figures (OK, they are suspect VAG figures) are incredibly low.

I remember that a Helimed pilot told me that his little machine does 2 gallons to the mile under Alpha callsign (emergency speed) and nearly 2 miles per gallon coming back. The tiny Spitfire planes averaged 2mpg, and the Lancaster had 4x as many engines. Don't even ask about modern military aircraft.

So, 4 x 4 cars don't seem to the problem that these idiots claim, but I'm guessing that it's easier to let the tyres down on a farmers' car than on a military aircraft. . .
 
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