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TVR TO RETURN TO PRODUCTION WITH STUNNING NEW CAR DESIGNED IN COLLABORATION WITH GORDON MURRAY DESIGN

Revered British sports car brand, TVR, is roaring back to production with an incredible all-new Cosworth powered sports car, engineered in collaboration with F1 and road car design legend, Gordon Murray
TVR has developed a product and launch programme that will see at least four new models brought to market over the next ten years
Positioning and pricing set to be consistent with TVR’s past market positioning and highly competitive within its segment

The iconic British car brand, TVR, has today announced that it will return to the market with an all-new British designed and built sports car. The company, which boasts an outstanding new management team, has developed the new car in collaboration with Gordon Murray Design and Cosworth, each providing much of the core design and engineering capability for the all-new TVR. This incredible project is already well advanced with over a year of development completed so far.

TVR will issue more specification details and early images later in 2015, but the car will continue the tradition of a classic British two-seat sports car with a composite ground effect aero chassis and body package using Gordon Murray Design’s innovative iStream® technology. Enthusiasts will also be delighted to know that the car will feature the traditional TVR DNA of a front engine with rear wheel drive and a manual transmission, powered by a normally aspirated, dry-sumped, V8 engine, developed and engineered by Cosworth.

Les Edgar, Chairman of TVR said: “We know that a new TVR has to be better than just good – it has to be outstanding. From the outset we only wanted to work with the best partners in the business, and both Gordon Murray’s and Cosworth’s track records within motor sport and high performance car design and engineering speaks for themselves. GMD and Cosworth are the perfect partners for TVR and together, we will deliver a truly exceptional new car.”

Production of the car will begin in 2017, and will be offered to the market at a competitive price point within its segment and consistent with TVR’s positioning in the past. TVR has prioritised the company’s position as an all-British institution, and the cars will be completely produced in new UK factory premises.

Gordon Murray, Chairman of Gordon Murray Design comments: “TVR is an iconic brand which has been an important part of British sports car manufacturing for many decades. Its return to manufacturing is an exciting development and the car deserves the best chassis and powertrain that can possibly be delivered. To that end, I am delighted that our company is involved with the project, and that TVR are using our iStream® technology.”

Bruce Wood, Cosworth Technical Director, said: “We are proud to see Cosworth’s industry-leading engineering at the heart of the revived TVR brand. Our team has been working closely with TVR and Gordon Murray Design to develop a powertrain solution that perfectly complements the exceptional performance characteristics of the new car. It’s an exciting project and one which well suits Cosworth’s engineering expertise.”

Edgar continues: “We are a well-funded, well-supported organisation and boast a vastly experienced management team. We are here to stay and we have a fully evolved ten year plan for product and business development, and are committed to deliver on all the targets we have set ourselves - as we have done to date.

“Despite very deliberately maintaining a low profile since completing the acquisition of TVR two years ago, we have had an enormous amount of unsolicited interest from businesses, individuals and investors internationally. Such is the strength of the brand and the passion of its followers. It is a real privilege to be a part of the revival of a great British marque - one that will succeed through our single-minded desire to produce exceptional sports cars.”


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What a shame that the engine side of Cosworth isn't what it once was.
 
Always thought of them as expensive kit cars, with a nice warble.
 
Shame if the pricing gets pushed up so much. I'd much rather see then getting entry under £40K. Aiming, although I appreciate this is analyst predictions, at more than £60K will make it a much tougher decision and sale.

However I am looking forward to this.
 
If they come back with something like the concept car based on the T440...

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ST4 said:
Engineering wise, Gordon Murray and Cosworth, it don't get much better.
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As I said earlier, Cosworth are no longer the same company after Ford sold the company. There's plenty of American companies that have already worked their magic on the Ford V8 and now have a much better reputation than the current Cosworth company. Ford Racing/Roush Performance engine produces 627bhp.
 
They've said 4 engines, so I can see ababy v6, v8, tuned version. It's got all the right names, right noises, oh please let this be reasonably priced. Can you still sell children, I can make more...
 
Never been a fan of TVR shapes.
But the sound, however. ....oh yes.
 
A mate had a Chimaera a few years ago, always heard him coming over 2 minutes before his eventual arrival:D
 
My God! :D

I'm a bit of a car fan but I've never owned a TVR. I've test driven them a couple of times but they didn't suit me, I'm more a Lotus/MG/MX5 guy. It'll be great to see them back especially if they'll be built in the UK.
 
Cosworth are hopefully working with is the "Voodoo" motor from the upcoming Mustang GT350 which is a development of the Coyote. Just today Ford released the official specs for the Voodoo....and they are BONKERS!
  • 5.2L naturally aspirated V8
  • Flat-plane-crank (yes that's right, just like the AJP8!)
  • 526 hp
  • 429 lb-ft
  • 8,250 rpm redline!!!
  • 12:1 compression ratio
  • US EPA emissions complaint
  • 6-speed manual only
  • Just listen to it!!!
Given the side exhaust pipes McMerc SLR style to allow for a flat aero underside makes the Voodoo a much much more likely choice. As it's a flat crank (effectively 2 4-cly engines on a common crank), you don't need any exhaust crossover between the cylinder banks for optimal exhaust performance. This means the exhaust system can be made much more compact, and because no crossover is needed it lends itself to side exit exhaust pipe configurations.
 
LASTOLITE said:
Agree - As long as they don't put their own engine in them....please not the cheese engine.....
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They can't won't meet modern emissions, however.

I have an AJP8, light, powerful, brilliant engine, but like any race designed engine has to be warmed up properly before giving it some beans. Very reliable. Never ceases to amaze me some owners give it stick straight from cold on a track day, or away from meets.

Early versions of this engine in the TVR Cerbera were somewhat different to later versions in a number of respects. The first batch of these engines for instance was design/manufactured without a crankshaft damper of any sort and these engines rapidly became a problem as they suffered timing chain failures. These early Cerberas were quickly recalled and major modifications were required to retro fit crankshaft dampers as there were complications with the proximity of the chassis.

On fitting to the later Tuscan cars, issues were found with the finger followers at mileage, which were sorted under warranty, again, possibly due to owners thinking they could just get in and thrash.

There were over 4500 SP6 engines made, so how many do you think failed?
SP6 engine now comes with 3 or 5 year warranties from two TVR Specialists...

The reliability issues are heavily over reported.
 
Byker28i said:
They can't won't meet modern emissions, however.

I have an AJP8, light, powerful, brilliant engine, but like any race designed engine has to be warmed up properly before giving it some beans. Very reliable. Never ceases to amaze me some owners give it stick straight from cold on a track day, or away from meets.

Early versions of this engine in the TVR Cerbera were somewhat different to later versions in a number of respects. The first batch of these engines for instance was design/manufactured without a crankshaft damper of any sort and these engines rapidly became a problem as they suffered timing chain failures. These early Cerberas were quickly recalled and major modifications were required to retro fit crankshaft dampers as there were complications with the proximity of the chassis.

On fitting to the later Tuscan cars, issues were found with the finger followers at mileage, which were sorted under warranty, again, possibly due to owners thinking they could just get in and thrash.

There were over 4500 SP6 engines made, so how many do you think failed?
SP6 engine now comes with 3 or 5 year warranties from two TVR Specialists...

The reliability issues are heavily over reported.
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It was known as a cheese engine in the trade, and from personal experience of customers TVR's.

Set against other engines its not a good-un is it. Either way as you say the old duffer wont meet emissions anywho so its not even a factor.......The V8 LS engine in it would not be a mistake, great power plant and very tunable and lots of 3rd party power products for fettling , light too, or should I say not over heavy for the output...

Just my opinion
 
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LASTOLITE said:
It was known as a cheese engine in the trade, and from personal experience of customers TVR's.

Set against other engines its not a good-un is it. Either way as you say the old duffer wont meet emissions anywho so its not even a factor.......The V8 LS engine in it would not be a mistake, great power plant and very tunable and lots of 3rd party power products for fettling , light too, or should I say not over heavy for the output...

Just my opinion
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Which engine? S6?
How many customer cars did you have with engine issues?

As I said - there were a few (too many) recognised failures within the first 20K miles, but they don't deserve the reputation some seem to be trying to tarnish them with.

They've announced Cosworth, so it'll be a ford engine, not a bad shout based on the latest Mustang offerings and equally as tunable as the LS series
 
After having a Cossy Powered Caterham CSR260 I am not in awe of their work anymore......sorry
 
Did you have an early one? I was spannering for a driver when they brought them in and let the race series R&D them for them. Heat was the biggest issue and killer, glad we stayed with the older car for that year.
That was more to do with Caterham than Cosworth then. Don't have any experience of recently.
 
Byker28i said:
They've announced Cosworth, so it'll be a ford engine, not a bad shout based on the latest Mustang offerings and equally as tunable as the LS series
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Ford sold the racing side of Cosworth in 2004, it was bought by the American Champ Car race series owners. The road engine side of the business was owned by VW/Audi since 98 and sold to Mahle GmbH in 2005, now known as MAHLE Powertrain. So there are no ties to Ford engines anymore. Roush would be a better company to work on the engines, if the want to use a British name for the sake of sales, they could use Mountune, whose parent company Revolve is tied in with Roush anyway. Expect to see Mountune Mustangs in the near future.
 
Yuk mountune to me has such linkage with small family hatchbacks. Whilst possibly technically better, I bow to your insider knowledge, they'd have to work on their marketing.

Perhaps irrationally, I would prefer tvr to do it themselves opposed to buy some labels. Tvr by tvr that kind of thing. If I want a ford tuned by ford ill buy a ford, not likely but you get my point.
 
dejongj said:
Yuk mountune to me has such linkage with small family hatchbacks. Whilst possibly technically better, I bow to your insider knowledge, they'd have to work on their marketing.

Perhaps irrationally, I would prefer tvr to do it themselves opposed to buy some labels. Tvr by tvr that kind of thing. If I want a ford tuned by ford ill buy a ford, not likely but you get my point.
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Mountune do more than small family hatchbacks. http://www.mountune.com/index.php/2012-03-03-17-39-13. They are also one of the most respected race engine builders in the UK too.
 
Yes I know they do more, as I said they need to work on their brand image (outside the industry), just look on their web page it is ford focus and fiesta 1.6 TDCI all over the place....And from all the Ford Hatchback owners I know they are very pleased with their products...

However if I ask my wife, or just a random person in the street about Mountune (who? Is that Halfords selling tuning boxes?) or Cosworth (Oh yes cool cars, very fast) then I'm sure you can be objective to know and agree that marketing and positioning is very much so lacking...
 
dejongj said:
Yes I know they do more, as I said they need to work on their brand image (outside the industry), just look on their web page it is ford focus and fiesta 1.6 TDCI all over the place....And from all the Ford Hatchback owners I know they are very pleased with their products...

However if I ask my wife, or just a random person in the street about Mountune (who? Is that Halfords selling tuning boxes?) or Cosworth (Oh yes cool cars, very fast) then I'm sure you can be objective to know and agree that marketing and positioning is very much so lacking...
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What you mean like people who hear Cosworth or MG and think it's still a good thing. You'd expect anyone buying a TVR would know. After all, at one point Mountune were building Ford's Cosworth engines for the WRC Escorts.
 
You are absolutely right. However that is a small group of people, a persona I call "Kevin", who dream, perhaps even drive a third hand ST or STi and can bore anyone with every single detail of the car, engine etc. And I agree, technically they are absolutely right.

However that is not where the money is for a viable long term proposition selling new cars. Like it or not, marketing is a huge part of it.

Lol I can see my wife go; why didn't you get a Porsche or Maserati instead of this TVR. Saying, but it has a mountune engine tune from Essex is not going,to make it any better.

That is all, it is a uphill battle to make,it viable. In my opinion TVR has got a much better brand proposition, as has Cosworth.

Different strokes for different people. Get it looking good, get it to sounds awesome, and improve on the reliability expectations and reputation but leave the specialist associations out.
 
TVR return delights hedge menders
Posted in News by Sniff Petrol on Thursday, June 4th, 2015

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An hedge, yesterday

News that TVR is to return has been met with delight by the National Union Of Hedge Menders.

‘We hedge menders have been through some difficult times,’ admitted trade union rep Trey Deyewnion-Repp. ‘The phasing out of cross ply tyres, the disappearance of the old VW Beetle, various improvements to the Porsche 911, but nothing hurt our business like TVR going away.’

‘So naturally, we’re really pleased to hear the company is coming back,’ Mr Deyewnion-Repp continued. ‘And I think I speak for all our members when I say we can’t wait to once more turn up at a car-sized repair job to find some floppy-haired, pink-shirted city clit in boating shoes staggering about on a pile of plastic shards muttering, “Oh bloody hell, I’d only just got her bloody working properly, and now I’m going to be bloody late for Tris and Arabella’s wedding”.’

The hedge menders’ union isn’t the only organization to have reacted strongly to TVR’s comeback. ‘Jesus Christ, we’d better start recruiting,’ said a spokesman for the AA.

http://sniffpetrol.com/2015/06/04/tvr-return-delights-hedge-menders/#.VXGFbEbzPT9
 
Love it :)
 
I haven't looked at Sniff Petrol since my op almost 3 years ago! Had it in my favourites on my old 'puter but had forgotten all about the site since upgrading.
 
dejongj said:
In my opinion TVR has got a much better brand proposition, as has Cosworth.

Different strokes for different people. Get it looking good, get it to sounds awesome, and improve on the reliability expectations and reputation but leave the specialist associations out.
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But Cosworth is no longer a brand proposition. You are basing that on the fact they are still the most successful F1 engine manufacturer and also the likes of their engines in performance cars and hatchbacks. As far as I'm aware their most recent performance engine in a road car was in the Subaru Imprezza. Never seen one and not even sure if they are still in production. As far as I'm aware it's been a flop.
Cosworth are involved in Britain's No. 1 Motorsport championship the BTCC and you'd be forgiven for thinking that they were building engines for one or more of the teams, but no, all they do is supply the ECU's some wiring looms and a few other electrical components that all the teams have to use as control parts.
With Gordon Murray involved the car is sure to look good, but Mountune's parent company, Roush have already worked wonders with the Ford V8 and they have a lot more credibility now than Cosworth. Cosworth are just continuing on the heritage bought with the rights to use the name, not the engine building expertise.
 
As I said, the world is all about marketing. None what you've said above actually matters, that is the power of marketing and a brand.
 
dejongj said:
As I said, the world is all about marketing. None what you've said above actually matters, that is the power of marketing and a brand.
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Exactly and in the current car world and for at least the last 10yrs, Roush and Mountune are bigger brand names than Cosworth.
 
I nearly bought a TVR but the build quality was shocking, went bought a Porsche instead but still love the sound of a TVR Gordon Murray will deliver a stunning car for sure
 
nilagin said:
Exactly and in the current car world and for at least the last 10yrs, Roush and Mountune are bigger brand names than Cosworth.
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And for consumers who actually pay for all this?

You don't happen to work for roush/mountune/revolve do you ;) I seem to smell consistently very much so a ford bias focus.
 
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