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Hi folks.
I’ve been a long time Canon user. I currently use an old and trusted 5dmk2 and a 7d with a range of lenses including Canon 100-400 mark 1, 24-105L and 70-200 IS.

I’ve been chatting to a lad at work today and am contemplating updating.

He has suggested I look at Sony and has suggested starting with 6300 or 6500 and use a Sigma adapter ring to continue using my lenses.

So, my questions :-
1. How well does the ring / lens combo work? I shoot aircraft frequently, will the AF be massively compromised?

2. As I don’t have the funds to update lenses yet, am I best switching to Sony or should I update to a newer Canon body?

Not looking to spend lots of cash at the mo, but also looking at making a few improvements.

Cheers in advance.

Ant.
 
In what aspect do you want an improvement? I have a Canon 5D4 and several L lenses but recently bought a Sony A6600 as the Canon kit is too heavy, Initially I did not plan to buy the Adaptor ring as this would defeat the object. However, I was persuaded by a fellow photographer that I might regret not having a longer reach particularly as I am starting with the 18-135mm. so I did buy the Sigma adaptor ring. I have checked that it all fits and functions OK but have not yet checked if there are focussing limitations yet. If it is not saving weight that interests you, then the 5D4 will produce better image quality than the A6600. In fact I will be keeping my 5D4 for the foreseeable future. For situations which do not involve carrying my camera any distance Studio work, table top, some landscape and some night photography, I will still use the 5D4. I am looking forward to testing the eye tracking of the A 6600 with my granddaughter but little chance of this with the current COVID situation.

Dave
 
The Lumix S5 looks really good but I'm not sure if the Canon lenses would fit as it is just released and I'm not aware if there are adapters. Others may know.

It's a very compact camera and would be smaller and lighter than your current cameras.
 
Hi Dave.

Great reply thanks.

The conversation came about as I was considering getting a lens for longer reach. I was struggling to justify it as I have a nice 100-400L lens. I felt that the quality produced by say a 150-600 wouldn’t really be worth the upgrade. Mate suggested I look at Sony and with more pixels, could crop with a better quality image.

Weight isn’t really a major issue. Tbh, I wouldn’t mind a crop sensor with a little bit better noise compression as I fond the 7d struggles a bit in lower light.

Wondering what my options are Canon wise or if worth going Sony / mirrorless. I’d probably buy secondhand too.

Cheers
 
moggi1964 said:
The Lumix S5 looks really good but I'm not sure if the Canon lenses would fit as it is just released and I'm not aware if there are adapters. Others may know.

It's a very compact camera and would be smaller and lighter than your current cameras.
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Hi Moggi and thanks for your reply.

Using my current lenses would be essential as I have some nice glass - which I’m not looking to (or able to afford to) replace as yet.

Cheers.
 
Your lenses are all full frame, so I'd suggest an A7 to take advantage of that. The original A7 can be had for around £350 used, but will have slow AF and less well developed sensor. The A7III will offer much better AF and battery life, but is a lot more money. If you want it for landscape work then look at the A7R series.

Native lenses will focus faster and probably provide higher resolution, but are quite spendy.
 
If going to Sony you need to skip the original and II in the A7 ranges as converted lenses don't perform well enough for your needs until the Mark IIIs.
But why not look at the Canon R5? 45MP will let you crop and your lenses should work well with Canon's own convertor.
 
If you’re used to a full frame canon I’d suggest an A7iii as it would be similar to the 5D in terms of sensor. If you were thinly of the A6xxx series I’d say look at the A6400. It may not have in body stabilisation but it has good AF.
 
Sensible options are IMO:
1. buying an updated DSLR or two like the 5Dmk4 or 90D. Yours lens will continue to work nicely and will serve you well for a good number of years.

2. Buy one of the newer canon R body. I'd say R6 if you can't afford the R5. Even the original EOS R isn't too bad but not great for action due to low FPS. I'd personally stay clear of RP. Your lenses will work very well adapted and nearly as well as native. The RF lenses can get expensive but there are some cheap ones too and some interesting ones like 800mm f11 prime.
Unfortunately there is no APS-C option at the moment. Their APS-C offering is EOS-M whose lens support isn't the best and lenses don't work between RF mount unlike with EF. So it's not really a sensible option.
RF lacks 3rd party support at the moment but i imagine it'll eventually arrive but don't know when.

3. Sony e-mount (A6100/a6400/a6600/A7III, A7Riii,A9 etc) - your lenses will AF and it's usable but I wouldn't rely on it for any serious action or tracking. You'll be looking to make a move to native lenses really but the adapter is good enough to act as a stop-gap while make the move.
But Sony e-mount has both APS-C and FF bodies with great line of lenses inc. some that's very reasonably priced from 3rd parties. All in all 3rd party support is great.

The adaptor support for your lenses for Nikon and Panasonic isn't the best from what I have seen. Made even worst since both brands lags behind canon/Sony for AF performance. So I don't find them as sensible an option for your situation.

Just my 2p.... :)
 
I had a 7D and sold it a couple of years ago. After trying a Nikon D500 (nice camera but I just didn't enjoy using it) and more recently a Canon 90D ( better than the 7D in everything but AF performance) I now have a 7D MKII coming off Ebay which I bought for what I consider a decent price which will last me until Canon bring out a decent spec mirrorless crop body.

I must admit I did consider Sony just for the 200-600mm lens though.
 
magpieant said:
Hi Dave.

Great reply thanks.

The conversation came about as I was considering getting a lens for longer reach. I was struggling to justify it as I have a nice 100-400L lens. I felt that the quality produced by say a 150-600 wouldn’t really be worth the upgrade. Mate suggested I look at Sony and with more pixels, could crop with a better quality image.

Weight isn’t really a major issue. Tbh, I wouldn’t mind a crop sensor with a little bit better noise compression as I fond the 7d struggles a bit in lower light.

Wondering what my options are Canon wise or if worth going Sony / mirrorless. I’d probably buy secondhand too.

Cheers
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Why dont you initially trial Topaz Denoise on your images?
 
magpieant said:
Hi Moggi and thanks for your reply.

Using my current lenses would be essential as I have some nice glass - which I’m not looking to (or able to afford to) replace as yet.

Cheers.
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I use a Sony a7Riv ( 61mp) and a Sony a7Riii (42mp) and a Sony 200-600mm & Sony 100-400mm - the crop value on both camera's is amazing , Ideal for cropping distant shots whilst retaining IQ

That's my 10p's worth :)

Les
 
I switched from Canon to A7Riii earlier this year and haven't looked back. I have the Metabones adaptor and it works with all my Canon fit lenses (Canon, Sigma and Tamron). A few of focus modes are disabled with some of the lenses but I so far I either haven't wanted to use those or, in the case of MF I just use the switch on the lens. The upshot is it does work and works well.
 
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