Tilt Shift Timelapse Lovelyness

I thought it was Excellent and don't give a **** if it's PS :D
 
iammartin - It's not really about works of art here, it's about fundamentals of photography and how little people think outside the box. Flickr just seems to be full of people posting the same old landscape shots we've seen a million times before, tilt-shift miniatures and fisheye rubbish.

And fair enough, take inspiration from other photographs becuase we all do it and it's what any good photographer should do, but instead of just copying something, a good photographer should be thinking of how they personally can do it better.
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I don't think we're disagreeing here... I don't get why people think this kind of xerox photography is acceptable.
 
I think calling it 'xerox photography' is a little harsh. There is only so much that can be done with a camera and a set of lenses, no matter what you're shooting. I think sometimes us photographers suffer from looking at an image/video too closely, rather than just enjoying it for what it is. I've seen hundreds of tiny people effect tilt & shift shots before, but it doesn't make me like them any less, or want to try it myself if I had the cash to buy a tilt & shift lens. Doing long exposure light trails has been done millions of times before, but it didn't give me any less pleasure when I tried it and got a great looking photograph out of it.
 
Its not overdone at all.

This guy has made his own projects based on THIS technique. Its his own projects and he can go about them as he pleases. This is the first time most of us has seen timelapse/tilt shift.

Sure the lenses are designed for architecture sure but that doesn't stop people posting hdr images done in their own art form rather than to be used in small amounts to correct exposure.
 
RichardC27 said:
I think calling it 'xerox photography' is a little harsh. There is only so much that can be done with a camera and a set of lenses, no matter what you're shooting. I think sometimes us photographers suffer from looking at an image/video too closely, rather than just enjoying it for what it is. I've seen hundreds of tiny people effect tilt & shift shots before, but it doesn't make me like them any less, or want to try it myself if I had the cash to buy a tilt & shift lens. Doing long exposure light trails has been done millions of times before, but it didn't give me any less pleasure when I tried it and got a great looking photograph out of it.
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The xerox photography comment was in relation to people who put no stamp of their own on an image. Explore can be so damn dull. I'm not against using tilt-shift lenses, or long exposures, or whatever, but at least put a spin on it or add something new.

I don't think people look at photography close enough.
 
iammartin said:
The xerox photography comment was in relation to people who put no stamp of their own on an image. Explore can be so damn dull. I'm not against using tilt-shift lenses, or long exposures, or whatever, but at least put a spin on it or add something new.

I don't think people look at photography close enough.
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And I think you're being a bit harsh.

What happened to the good old days of photography where something was beautiful or evoked a reaction because of what it is not because of how it was achieved.

I agree, a flat, bland long exposure motorway shot can be boring if no thought is put into it.
But then it's the same with every photograph going.
If it's visually uninteresting then it's visually uninteresting. Condemning it because of the way it was achieved is absurd.

I've done my fair share of long exposures, and I think to really be creative you first have to be a copycat. It's only once film-makers understand the basics (regarding typical classical hollywood narratives, cinematic techniques and the like) that they can truly explore film making.
Oliver Stone's 'Natural Born Killers' would never have been so diverse had he not had a full understanding of cinema, and generally you'll find the a lot of the people using flickr are people giving stuff a go. They need to understand it before they alter it.

Here's my interpretation of the long motorway exposure (was inspired by Edvar Munch's 'The Scream' and was connoting the shock about global warming and co2 emissions)

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I would never have been able to achieve that shot had I not messed around with long exposures, photoshop techniques and external lighting beforehand.

If we're saying the same thing and I've just misinterpreted you, then I apologise, but I still believe the video in the OP is very unique and creative, despite both techniques having been used a lot.
 
What he said ^^ :p

What is truely original? I applaud raw creativity but IMO it's successful implementation is usually achieved only by those who've emulated and experimented with existing techniques, and subsiquently gained a solid technical understanding of what can be achieved and how.

A nice little story :)
 
You can be pretty certain somebody's done something before, sure some things get done to death but that's just a fad usually and to me doesn't detract from them, just means the bar of excellence is set ever higher.

How many of the great film's are original, pretty much none of them. They all borrow concepts from older films. Which borrowed concepts from older films or from plays. It's mostly about seeing what has been done before and doing it better or mixing different things together to give a different spin on things.
 
If we're saying the same thing and I've just misinterpreted you, then I apologise, but I still believe the video in the OP is very unique and creative, despite both techniques having been used a lot.
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Yeah, we are. I'm not condemning anything because of the way it was achieved. I'm talking about just ripping off other people wholesale, flickr users who are not taking ownership of an idea. You've done that in your photograph- no-one could argue that the image you've made is not your own. tbm and mole2k seem to be arguing for my point too; I'm not saying borrowing concepts is a bad thing. I'm interested in what people are (or are not bringing) of their own.

I still like the original video, by the way.
 
iammartin said:
Yeah, we are. I'm not condemning anything because of the way it was achieved. I'm talking about just ripping off other people wholesale, flickr users who are not taking ownership of an idea. You've done that in your photograph- no-one could argue that the image you've made is not your own. tbm and mole2k seem to be arguing for my point too; I'm not saying borrowing concepts is a bad thing. I'm interested in what people are (or are not bringing) of their own.

I still like the original video, by the way.
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Big misunderstanding from me then :) No hard feelings and all that :thumbs:
 
Coool, has anyone seen a movie done with a 5d mk11 and a ts lens yet?
 
joxby said:
Well I don't know really, but its the way of the world these days.
Its unlikely to be a lensbaby, could be a TS lens, could certainly be done with a TS lens, but I think its more likely to be batch shopped time lapse, which personally is......boringly easy to do, not boringly easy is the editing of a short story in clips mind.
I just wish peeps would say its photoshopped instead of saying its Tilt Shift if it isn't.
Tilt Shift is a specific type of lens not a photoshop action.
Still entertaining though, and might be shot with TS lens...who knows...:shrug:
Tilt Shift has been stolen by photoshop to describe the effect of a real TS lens.
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Even easier if you just stick together the pieces in to an animated piece and use blur and masks in After Effects! No need to batch em at all beyond resizing down to output resolution (and more control over moving the focal point around)



Give a real name for it and I'll use it.
 
DavePaliwoda said:
Even easier if you just stick together the pieces in to an animated piece and use blur and masks in After Effects! No need to batch em at all beyond resizing down to output resolution (and more control over moving the focal point around)



Give a real name for it and I'll use it.
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:thinking:

TSisalens?omgbatchdistortionfilter plug-in for PS

:D
 
I liked the story but the effects did not appeal, just like cranking clarity to 11 for 'artistic grit', and I couldn't watch beyond halfway. Clever, especially the story development, and clearly a style that appeals to a lot of people so probably has a lot of commercial potential.
 
Blimey is this the biggest ever thread revival???
 
You can't take time lapse of a helicopter the normal way, so the co-ordination between photographer and pilot must have been very well planned and executed.


I can't help but think however... with such access to the facilities, and equipment and people, creating a small animation using heavily over-used, tired techniques seems to trivialise the operations of the rescue team. With such access and time afforded surely he could have created a really in-depth, meaningful documentary of the rescue team. As cool as everyone thinks it is, this is an example of a photographer obsessed with technique - to the point where they are ignoring real opportunities to produce some stunning work, and chose to squander them on producing trivial, technique driven eye candy to get likes with. What a waste of opportunity.


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Didn't realise CG Girl had necro-posted... it wasn't anywhere near as over-used a technique in 2009.. although still pretty tired, but not as bad as someone sinking all that time and effort into doing it in 2015.
 
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Apologies... it was John Wells.
 
TheBigYin said:
yep , methinks someone's getting close to the classifieds removal threshold and hunting for old threads to resuscitate.
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I thought that too. Good to see that the mods are on the ball.
 
Quality stuff!

Edit: just seen how old the original post was. Even if it is dredged up from six years ago, it's still a lovely bit of work.

Has the hate for TS intensified over that time, or died out a little?
 
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Evening all

I was searching through for guides to using lensbaby/ Tilt Shift in video mode as my previous camera didn't have it, you'll see that as I have launched a separate thread on the subject for advice.

Personally I think is is a pretty cool video to produce through time lapse in TS, since when did quality get old...

Me thinks the big yin doesn't think at all and speaks only of his own situation... let alone Stewart jumping on the pointless band wagon.

Julian I agree it's a quality bit of work
 
What I didn't realise was it was a planned story. I was genuinely worried for the little guy when he fell in! Seems like it would have taken a lot of time and effort from all involved, so I was expecting it to be some kind of advert for the RNLI. I was surprised when there was none of that at the end. I think it would still have wide appeal, even in 2015, but agree; if the film maker had that level of access I would have preferred to see something more in-depth.
 
John wells said:
Me thinks the big yin doesn't think at all and speaks only of his own situation... let alone Stewart jumping on the pointless band wagon.
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bit of a problem with that statement there...

1) with a classifieds Ratio of 1 (it's actually a little under 1 - 173 posts in classifieds against 19659 = 0.880%) i could quite happily spend many months posting exclusively in the classifieds without being in danger of losing priviledges... 9656 posts goes a long way, even when you're selling/buying. That'll be because I've spent the past 5 3/4 years or so actually contributing to the community, either by posting as a member, or more recently as a volunteer moderator of this forum. Which brings me to..

2) as a moderator, I wouldn't actually be banned from the classifieds anyway - because over half the problems that occur in the forum stem from in there, and frankly, it would be insane to remove access to that part of the forum from the staff. I'd actually hazard a guess and say that of the 173 posts I have made in the classifieds, less than 20 of them have been for buying/selling purposes - the rest being "play nice" notices, or handing out of warnings etc. for transgressions against the (fairly minimal) classifieds sections rules.

and as for your other comment re: @StewartR - well - aside from being a valued member of the forum, contributing in many ways, including his own fairly unique insight and perspective on Canon/Nikon Lenses - he's an advertiser - and while that doesn't give him the right to make pronouncements on other members, I can understand that anyone who's paying to promote their business on here gets irritated when they see other members freeloading or using the forum as a free alternative to Ebay.

Now - if you'd like to take any issue with anything I say, may I refer you to the forum rules - which basically state the following...

Moderating decisions are not up for public discussion or debate.
Contact the Moderation Team privately using the Contact Us link below.

So, no further discussion of this matter in this thread - please keep it all on the "contact us" where ALL members of the Staff and Admin's will be able to see it and act accordingly. Any futher discussion outside of the Original thread topic will see you removed permanently from posting in the thread.
 
I have no idea how difficult it is to create nice looking tilt-s*** & timelapse work, maybe it's a technical tour-de-force. The result is pretty. Does the effect bring anything to the story? Not really.

I was hoping to see something clever where the amount of tilt & shift was microscopically manipulated between frames. That might produce some new effects.
 
John Won't be back in this thread. I've removed his comments, and a couple of replies that quoted him. Now... Back to the tilt-shift timelapse shall we ?
 
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