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gramps said:
We shall see ... but I'll keep breathing :)
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We've had enough gramps. This forum was actually the friendliest on the net at one time and being a mod on here consisted of helping people shift posts because they'd put stuff in the wrong place, helping things behind the scenes and a pile of other fun things.

Unfortunately we've allowed a few to spoil it for everyone which has been to the detriment of the forum and it needs to stop. I don't enjoy being like this but this forum is bigger than any one individual, me included.
 
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cambsno said:
Instead of locking threads, why not just shoot people in the face?
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As well intentioned as that post may be in order to lighten the mood.....It's that sort of referencing to another member's contentious posting history that causes an underlying simmering of animosity to lurk and bubble ;)
 
Marcel said:
As well intentioned as that post may be in order to lighten the mood.....It's that sort of referencing to another member's contentious posting history that causes an underlying simmering of animosity to lurk and bubble ;)
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and three days off :)
 
dod said:
The latest report accuses us of favouritism and that was the final straw for me.So be warned. I'm not the only mod sick of this. You all play nice and you get to stay. You don't and you go.
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thats botox, long timers get banned if they step out of line :naughty:
 
Be courteous and respectful and you get to stay then. Doesn't matter if you've been here 5 minutes or 5 years.
 
Without wanting to sound crass I'm glad to see a harder line from the mod team, I'd hope that this will cause people to respect the mod team more but more importantly respect our community, I've loved a lot of my time as part of this community but I've more and more become jaded with the lack of community spirit and to be blunt outright rudeness of some members, I make no apologies for saying I personally think some people need to be removed from the community on a permanent basis but of course I'll respect the judgement of the team of green on that front
 
Why not ban the people causing the agro, do love an analogy so here goes

Bit like a pub where you get someone who spends well, but is a right pain in the arse. better off barring them if it means others might then stay or come back

Know if I were the landlord one or two prats wouldn't be allowed to f it up for everyone else
 
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dod said:
We've had enough gramps. This forum was actually the friendliest on the net at one time and being a mod on here consisted of helping people shift posts because they'd put stuff in the wrong place, helping things behind the scenes and a pile of other fun things.

Unfortunately we've allowed a few to spoil it for everyone which has been to the detriment of the forum and it needs to stop. I don't enjoy being like this but this forum is bigger than any one individual, me included.
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Have to agree with you there, this was one of the friendliest forums out there. I have been a member on loads of forums, but this is the only forum that I have ever stayed on and visited regular. I often wonder, where would I go should anything ever happen to this forum..

Not many good forums out there, it would be nice to keep this a gud un :)
 
jonbeeza said:
I often wonder, where would I go should anything ever happen to this forum..

Not many good forums out there, it would be nice to keep this a gud un :)
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Don't join a sewing forum, you'd be gobsmacked at the arguments that can happen on them.
 
Julie1979 said:
Don't join a sewing forum, you'd be gobsmacked at the arguments that can happen on them.
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Nothing would surprise me TBH :D

You should see falconers going at it at times ;)
One site owner of a large forum, spat his dummy and shut it down, because someone disagreed with him

He did relent a week or so later and re-open it again though :D
 
gramps said:
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It isn't a case of "favourites" it's a question of civility and that should be a line that is clear for all to see, no matter who you are, cross the line and you know what to expect.
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No offence gramps but take a look a some of your own posts - tje ebola thread being a classic - like I said nearly everyone thinks the arent part of the problem , its the other people ... which in itself is the problem
 
Julie1979 said:
Don't join a sewing forum, you'd be gobsmacked at the arguments that can happen on them.
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My missus is in a sewing group on facebook, and she recently added me, and we have some laughs on there. But not so sure about a proper style forum :)
 
Julie1979 said:
Don't join a sewing forum, you'd be gobsmacked at the arguments that can happen on them.
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Or a cardmaking forum! Geez, the bitching and backstabbing that went on there! Feels like being back on there sometimes though....
 
Interesting.

When I first joined late 2013 IIRC the moderation was so heavy you could hear the computer creak every time it tried to lift a thread onto the screen - I'd never been on another forum like it. And yet it's really backed off to the point where, as suggested, it apparently needs ramping up again to keep the peace. I wonder if it might be worth encouraging people to use the 'ignore' button, because that's certainly made TP a sweeter place to be for me.
 
ancient_mariner said:
When I first joined late 2013 IIRC the moderation was so heavy you could hear the computer creak every time it tried to lift a thread onto the screen
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Now that's interesting as I really don't remember moderating ever being particularly heavy here. I'm interested to hear what your idea of heavy moderation is.
 
fabs said:
Now that's interesting as I really don't remember moderating ever being particularly heavy here. I'm interested to hear what your idea of heavy moderation is.
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Too many jaffa cakes?
 
fabs said:
Now that's interesting as I really don't remember moderating ever being particularly heavy here. I'm interested to hear what your idea of heavy moderation is.
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Similarly...I only joined in 2012 but I've never vewed modding here in any way harsh.
 
To be honest it's never seemed heavy to me, I've only been here since the end of 2012 I think but it reminds me of home life....
I'll explain..
Me: archie stop that
Me: archie I asked you nicely already to stop..
Archie. Don't do/say that.

He fails to listen!..blatantly ignores

Here....
Replace the word me with mod and it's the same scenario
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I joined in 2009 and have always viewed this forum one of the friendliest I have ever been on

There are have been some slight changes in moderation styles over the years but nothing drastic and still in keeping with it's easy going friendly atmosphere.

The only problem is, like with all forums, it will attract those that like to have an audience and cause controversy - maybe it is how those types of individuals are treated that needs to be looked at again.

Also being a Mod on a forum is far from an easy job, your damned if you do and damned if you don't

By the way I think @dod is a great Mod and does a fantastic job :D:p
 
Maybe access to OOF should be restricted in a similar way to the Classifieds.
If you don't behave your access is denied.
There seems no real reason to ban someone from other sections, unless they misbehave there as well.

It's a difficult choice for the mods to make as it is good to have opposing views and interesting discussions.
 
big soft moose said:
No offence gramps but take a look a some of your own posts - tje ebola thread being a classic - like I said nearly everyone thinks the arent part of the problem , its the other people ... which in itself is the problem
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Show me where I was uncivil.
 
big soft moose said:
No offence gramps but take a look a some of your own posts - tje ebola thread being a classic - like I said nearly everyone thinks the arent part of the problem , its the other people ... which in itself is the problem
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This is the wrong thread to be pointing out the faults of others. You are not a mod.
 
dod said:
this forum is bigger than any one individual, me included.
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Well I agree you got that part right,slightly diferent but a comparison nonetheless.I am on one facebook group that has a few thousand members.The rules: There are no rules,and everyone gets along quite happily,compared to other groups the admins job is a breeze,if someone comes along and posts something that is totaly out of order or starts bullying anybody, it soon gets picked up on by other members and He/She will soon tire of it.I agree that cannot be applied to TP as a whole but I think a sub forum for people to air their views a bit more is a good thing.The problem is people get into heated debates on here which is only human nature,and then the mods just come along and close it or delete peoples comments,and that is based on your opinions. Well just like all of our opinions, who`s to say they are right or wrong? All it ends up doing is going around in circles, stifling peoples voices and creating more frustration amongst people.If however there is no way possible to implement something then I think it is something you will never ever be able to sort out.

You mention about the few that spoil it,well here`s what grabs my attention.No surprise here,take a look at some of the comments,notice any of your main trouble makers leaving a comment?No,and I doubt if you will either, a fine example of negativity at it`s best.It`s only a discussion you might say,but then so is every thread that is started here,pretty sure that if similar comments were posted up on someones picture here it would be frowned upon and be classed as a trouble maker.If you want to get rid of the trouble makers then fine,it`s the ones with the self righteuos attitudes you need to be more concerned about,but hey it`s your call ;)
 
gramps said:
I think you miss the point :)
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not at all. okay look at day to day life, how many cycling conversations have been major contributing factors in civil conflict?

the ban on the discussions was in place before, in my opinion it should be re-invoked, like nothing had changed. we've gained nothing other than a load of arguments and locked threads.

(i love the irony about this line of conversation too, not even the ironing the ironman t-shirt jpg will cut it)
 
dod said:
We've had enough gramps. This forum was actually the friendliest on the net at one time and being a mod on here consisted of helping people shift posts because they'd put stuff in the wrong place, helping things behind the scenes and a pile of other fun things.

Unfortunately we've allowed a few to spoil it for everyone which has been to the detriment of the forum and it needs to stop. I don't enjoy being like this but this forum is bigger than any one individual, me included.
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and with the greatest respect that's down to this place becoming more popular. ive seen it before on sites ive moderated in the past, the number of users goes up and so does the % of poop.

unfortunately sometimes it needs a tougher hand before it snowballs, it'll win you no friends by cracking that whip but its one of those annoying by-products of a successful site.
 
It's not always the fault of the obvious that causes trouble, often a thread has been a proper discussion, certain people make a logical comments
and the rabble arrive to goad them, people who have shown no interest until certain members join in, then it's like a witch hunt to get them either banned
or shut out.
We are only human, of course people will defend themselves, some just don't seem able to bow out until drastic action is taken, then whinge about harsh modding,
unfairness and favouritism.
 
neil_g said:
not at all. okay look at day to day life, how many cycling conversations have been major contributing factors in civil conflict?

the ban on the discussions was in place before, in my opinion it should be re-invoked, like nothing had changed. we've gained nothing other than a load of arguments and locked threads.

(i love the irony about this line of conversation too, not even the ironing the ironman t-shirt jpg will cut it)
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Yes but I've noticed lately that a small number of people are just posting in threads in OOF just to start trouble not just political threads any random subjects
There have been two or three threads on big game hunting for example one started by me and they all changed from a decent discussion between people with different viewpoints to bickering quite quickly
I'm giving the out of focus area a miss now until it's sorted
 
neil_g said:
not at all. okay look at day to day life, how many cycling conversations have been major contributing factors in civil conflict?

the ban on the discussions was in place before, in my opinion it should be re-invoked, like nothing had changed. we've gained nothing other than a load of arguments and locked threads.

(i love the irony about this line of conversation too, not even the ironing the ironman t-shirt jpg will cut it)
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I totally disagree with that Neil. Some of the best and most interesting threads have been on previously banned topics.
Anything at all should be open for reasoned debate and discussion, I don't even mind some of the loony viewpoints that are aired, because what seems crazy to me is perhaps perfectly logical to someone else, and it's only by talking about it we can get an insight into other views. It wouldn't be the first time I've actually changed my stance on a subject on here. What is unacceptable though are personal insults and in general these are moderated pretty effectively and it looks like even more so now.
 
Gremlin said:
It's not always the fault of the obvious that causes trouble, often a thread has been a proper discussion, certain people make a logical comments
and the rabble arrive to goad them, people who have shown no interest until certain members join in, then it's like a witch hunt to get them either banned
or shut out.
We are only human, of course people will defend themselves, some just don't seem able to bow out until drastic action is taken, then whinge about harsh modding,
unfairness and favouritism.
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Yes that's what I was trying to say you've worded it better than I could :D
 
u8myufo said:
You mention about the few that spoil it,well here`s what grabs my attention.No surprise here,take a look at some of the comments,notice any of your main trouble makeRs, no and I doubt if you will either, a fine example of negativity at it`s best
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Believe me, just because they're not posting in here just now (some of them can't :D ) does not mean they're off the radar. We know who they are and this will be fixed.
 
dod said:
Believe me, just because they're not posting in here just now (some of them can't :D ) does not mean they're off the radar. We know who they are and this will be fixed.
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Ah, so you've taken my electro-shock therapy idea seriously. :banana:
 
dod said:
Believe me, just because they're not posting in here just now (some of them can't :D ) does not mean they're off the radar. We know who they are and this will be fixed.
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I appreciate your comment,but in all honesty I am not sure if you actually recognised where I was coming from.I don`t give a toss so much nowadays as even I have become tired of the dummy spitting,and the same people getting offended at the slightest comment with regards to C&C.In fact it has now got to the stage where people are wrapped up in cotton so much to protect their feelings,it is not even worth giving opinions about anything for fear you have upset somebody in some small way.Got a perpectual itch?You could have your arms tied behind your back,but the itch ain`t gonna go away ;)
 
I am guilty for responding to some outrageous posts by certain members, I try and avoid it but sometimes I just can't help myself :)

Problem is I know that they would only express those views on the internet, they wouldn't spout such [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] at work, they'd likely be sacked, or in a public meeting, they would be arrested for inciting racial hatred, but they're free to air there abhorrent opinions with the anonymity the web provides. They remind me of the saddo's who post abusive comments to women, threaten rape and such like, when they're uncovered they turn out to be sad little men.
 
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