This looks like fun.. Intrepid 4x5 on Kickstarter..

As they've already exceeded their goal, I'd say there's a fairly good chance it'll go ahead.

I've told myself that I have to sell cameras, not buy new ones. So I stuck the link on t'missus's facebook page with a note about it being Christmas soon :)
 
Having just punted a few cameras I'm very tempted by this.
 
how much do large format lenses cost?

You could pick up a 150mm f5.6 Symmar S for under £200
Pretty much a standard focal length for 5x4
90mm f5.6 Wide angle. Paid £225 for Super Angulon

Of course you could pay thousands for the latest products..
 
If you skulk around eBay you can get older lenses for 50 to 100 they'll not be the best but they'll be fine.
 
how much do large format lenses cost?


You show us your string I'll get out the tape measure

Least paid 20 pounds for three Sinar db mounted modern Rodenstocks most paid 1600 dollars for a mint boxed Nikon 150mmSw

New prices are from say 800 -3000 + vat but pretty much no one buys new and even those manufacturers still producing lenses have a vastly reduced range.

Lenses can be had quite cheaply as others have said however at the lower end you are usually looking at compromises one way or another they may be entirely usable but often not especailly suitable.

Which sort of lenses you might need depends on what camera you get and what subjects you usually shoot.

Easy advice is stick to the big four Schneider Rodenstock Fuji and Nikon anything from them from early seventies onwards is mostly with some exceptions fine, if you goo for early lenses they will be single coated (not a huge issue) and they will be early less refined designs.

Dealer prices for good 150mm lenses tend to be about 300 similar price for 210mm lenses whereas wide angles are always more - the largest use of LF these days is landscape using wooden field cameras this tends to drive the market hence the higher price for wide angles and higher price for larger apertures you might get a 90mm Super Angulon F8 for 300 but you will most likely pay 450-500 for a F5.6 one while the latest XL's go for more again, but if you want to use those chose your camera carefully most wooden field cameras use Linhoff / wista size lens boards which makes life harder as with some you need to remove the rear element to mount the lens on the camera also if you go for wider than a 90mm on 5x4 and shoot slide you will be needing ND Centre filters which are generally in the 100-300 pounds range even secondhand.

If you want longer lenses 300mm lenses such as the Nikon 300M comand a premium while studio Plasmats like a Schneider Symmar s 300mm F5.6 do not


Standard lenses
Schneider
Symmar too old convertible lenses cheap but not up to modern standards
Symmar S much better and perfectly usable modern Plasmats
Apo Symmar replaced the S all good
Apo Symmar L latest version
Schneider Super Symmar HM Premium version with 80degree coverage

Rodenstock

Sironar Early standard Plasmat fine
Sironar N updated 70degree plasmats
Sironar S 75 degree plasmats
Sironar w 80 degree plasmats

Later versions had apo stuck to the name Rodenstock also badged lenses for Sinar under the Sinaron brand the cross over of the names can be confusing, Calter branded lenses made for Calumet can be found cheaper some times

Nikon
Nikon Nikkor - W All good modern 70degree plasmats

Fuji
Fujinon W one series of late seventioes lenses are sort after for being 80 degree they are relatively compact and have excelent image circles
Fuji CMW newer series

Wide Angles

Schneider
Angulon older lenses that suit for some applications but not really useful anymore for general use
Super Angulon Modern good quality wide angles
Super Angulon XL Newer lenses with larger image circles not necessarily sharper than standard Super Angulons

Rodenstock

Grandagon Modern high quality wide angles

Nikon
Nikon SW modern high quality wide angles some outstanding lenses at particular focal lengths

Fuji
Sw F8 lenses
SWD F5.6 lenses

Most of the manufactures produced F5.6 and F8 lenses the larger aperture versions are brighter and easy to focus but carry a price premium and usually a weight one to they also generally offer greater coverage.

Places to buy

http://www.teamworkphoto.com/lenses-c-77_187_197.html Teamwork Digital
http://www.mrcad.co.uk/ MrCad I would go there rather than buying online
https://secure.peterwalnes.com/inde...mart&page=shop.browse&category_id=68&Itemid=1 Peter Walnes
http://www.ffordes.com/category/Large_Format/Panoramic/Lenses ffordes

Prices often seem quite elevated on ebay these days cetainly a lot of people with buy it now prices are clearly having a laugh but in general or so they tell me you can mostly get what you pay for large format kit.

There are many other lens options out there but even with the ones pointed out above it pays to do your research and bear in mind you need lens boards for the lenses to suit which ever camera you need to check shutters carefully lots of older shutters have a shortage of parts and more or less no large format leaf shutters are still in production.
Note you will often see cheap Sinar lenses these are db or dbm mounted and need to be used with a Sinar shutter it makes them a bargain but not if you don't have the shutter.

This was more info than anyone probably wanted but perhaps some may find it usefull.
 
that's a crazy big post :-O, think I'll have to wait awhile longer, not got the money at the moment :-(
 
There are quite a few options that pop up on the well known auction site for about £100, they not be the most popular of makes or focal lengths but are perfectly functional if you're looking for a budget way into LF.
 
I had my eye on these too... it was the extra cost of the lens that dissuaded me, to be honest. Plus, I think the boyfriend would murder me if I bought home another camera.
 
Stop it, stop it. I can't afford this, I don't want this, I don't need this....why are you tempting me evil small person, why?
 
Stop it, stop it. I can't afford this, I don't want this, I don't need this....why are you tempting me evil small person, why?
:naughty:
 
OK, OK, I do need this and I do want this but I still can't afford it... However, I will be keeping an eye on this and I expect someone to buy it and give a full review with pics:D
 
I'm intrigued by the possibility of using it as a budget alternative to the Novoflex system - I'd be interested to hear people's experiences of using the Intrepid in this way when they start shipping.
 
Symmar too old convertible lenses cheap but not up to modern standards

But still very good. I have a Symmar 210. Good price too. I got it in exchange for a Pentax Spotmatic body.

Probably the cheapest/easiest lens to get hold of to get started in 5x4 is a Zeiss Tessa6 135mm, usually marked 13.5cm. These are often found on 9x12cm folding cameras of which there are usually a lot on eBay.


Steve.
 
In what way Alastair?
Fuji X-series on the rear standard, MF/LF lens on the front and use the Intrepid to give a range of tilt and shift movements.
 
Fuji X-series on the rear standard, MF/LF lens on the front and use the Intrepid to give a range of tilt and shift movements.
That does sound interesting.
 
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