Things That Should be Confined to History

As far as I can remember, there were second hand rails for school uniforms, FAR cheaper than brand new. Same for sports tops.

nilagin said:
If not then surely getting married is just as pointless.
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Not sure if it's still the case but it certainly was when we married - direct inheritance to a spouse isn't subject to inheritance tax but to a partner it is. Main reason we got married rather than living in "sin".
 
woof woof said:
I agree with ties, they're a health and safety hazard.
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I used to work at a food production factory - well, Icecream/Ice Lollies, and while all managers were expected to wear a Shirt and Tie in the office, and even under their White Coats in the factory, the Tie HAD to be a clip-on if you were actually entering the factory in case the loose tie got caught in any of the fast revolving machinery/conveyor belts. No tie-pins/clips allowed, as they were classed as jewellery (which was again proscribed in case it was lost and fell into the product or triggered false warnings on the very sensitive metal detectors. So, as I worked in the general offices, if I had business in one of the production offices buried in the depths of the factory, I'd have to remove my wristwatch, ear-ring (or put a blue Md band-aid over it_) swap my tie for a stupid clip-on, wear a hairnet, beard snood, white coat and wellies, plus a dark blue Trilby over the hairnet (the colour designated what level of management you were - Black for Directors, Blue for senior managment team, Green for Team Leaders, White for QA) and cufflinks - replacing with those elasticated "knots", again to avoid false positives on the metal detectors. Yes, it would have been WONDERFUL to have been able to at least avoid the removal and re-tying of the bloody tie...
 
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It's a looong time since I had a school uniform but in those days they were only available from specific shops and were expensive. The more generic and supermarket ones you get these days are a much better idea.
 
Used to be a nightclub doorman and had to wear a bow tie. Had to be a clip-on,
 
TheBigYin said:
I used to work at a food production factory - well, Icecream/Ice Lollies, and while all managers were expected to wear a Shirt and Tie in the office, and even under their White Coats in the factory, the Tie HAD to be a clip-on if you were actually entering the factory in case the loose tie got caught in any of the fast revolving machinery/conveyor belts. No tie-pins/clips allowed, as they were classed as jewellery (which was again proscribed in case it was lost and fell into the product or triggered false warnings on the very sensitive metal detectors. So, as I worked in the general offices, if I had business in one of the production offices buried in the depths of the factory, I'd have to remove my wristwatch, ear-ring (or put a blue Md band-aid over it_) swap my tie for a stupid clip-on, wear a hairnet, beard snood, white coat and wellies, plus a dark blue Trilby over the hairnet (the colour designated what level of management you were - Black for Directors, Blue for senior managment team, Green for Team Leaders, White for QA) and cufflinks - replacing with those elasticated "knots", again to avoid false positives on the metal detectors. Yes, it would have been WONDERFUL to have been able to at least avoid the removal and re-tying of the bloody tie...
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What a palaver. Not really on point again but one place I went to... and I only went because no one else would... you had to strip down to your undies and walk down a corridor to an office at which you were given a key and had to walk down another corridor to a locker room and open a locker containing a paper overall type thing to wear. Same process in reverse on the way back. It wasn't a wind up, everyone attending went through the same thing. Strange that after all that they let me walk in with my tatty case style tool bag containing gosh knows what contamination.
 
TheBigYin said:
Yes, it would have been WONDERFUL to have been able to at least avoid the removal and re-tying of the bloody tie...
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Loosen tie, slip off over head to remove.
To put back on, slip back over the head, tuck under shirt collar and retighten.
That's what we did for school.
 
Nod said:
Because it's an anachronism dating back to when wives were considered to be the property of the husband.
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Ok come on. Can people please stop harping back to things that happened in the medieval days. We're not there anymore and things change. That's no longer why people take each other's surname and everyone knows that. Families have the same surname because it suits them, helps show their solidarity as a family and gives them a common identity. It's not necessary these days but if people want it then let them be and quit trying to force woke garbage down everyone's neck. Why do some people want to remove every single tradition we have until we finally have zero identity and no idea why we do what we do. If I had a mind I could probably link virtually every tradition to something medieval that is no longer relevant today, including the bloody woke generation.
 
nilagin said:
Don't really see that as being much different if it's going to be the father's surname first.

As for a woman taking the husbands surname being seen as the husband owning the wife, my father never thought that of my mum, same goes for my grandparents.
Women today see it as being part of a new family unit, especially if they plan to have kids. If not then surely getting married is just as pointless.
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I agree entirely.
 
woof woof said:
It's a looong time since I had a school uniform but in those days they were only available from specific shops and were expensive. The more generic and supermarket ones you get these days are a much better idea.
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If I remember rightly I only had a blazer when I first started infant school in 68, it wasn't replaced when I grew out of it. 1st year of secondary school, different uniform, new blazer in the 1st year and again never replaced after I grew out of it.
My two sons however, no blazer required for junior school, but had to have blazers all through secondary school. Shirts and trousers could be bought cheap enough, but blazers always struck me as being expensive where ever they were bought from.
 
THIRTYFIVEMILL said:
If I had a mind I could probably link virtually every tradition to something medieval
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Reminds me of Tevye's introduction to "Tradition" in Fiddler on the Roof:
You may ask, why did this tradition get started? I'll tell you why - I don't know. But it's a tradition
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:LOL:
 
THIRTYFIVEMILL said:
Ok come on. Can people please stop harping back to things that happened in the medieval days. We're not there anymore and things change. That's no longer why people take each other's surname and everyone knows that. Families have the same surname because it suits them, helps show their solidarity as a family and gives them a common identity. It's not necessary these days but if people want it then let them be and quit trying to force woke garbage down everyone's neck. Why do some people want to remove every single tradition we have until we finally have zero identity and no idea why we do what we do. If I had a mind I could probably link virtually every tradition to something medieval that is no longer relevant today, including the bloody woke generation.
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You're right - we're not there any more and things change. Traditions fall by the wayside. It's really not that long ago that a man could not rape his wife - he had the right to force her to have sex.
 
Nod said:
You're right - we're not there any more and things change. Traditions fall by the wayside. It's really not that long ago that a man could not rape his wife - he had the right to force her to have sex.
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I hardly think you'd class that as a "tradition"... certainly not in my same surname family.. :oops: :$
 
woof woof said:
What a palaver. Not really on point again but one place I went to... and I only went because no one else would... you had to strip down to your undies and walk down a corridor to an office at which you were given a key and had to walk down another corridor to a locker room and open a locker containing a paper overall type thing to wear. Same process in reverse on the way back. It wasn't a wind up, everyone attending went through the same thing. Strange that after all that they let me walk in with my tatty case style tool bag containing gosh knows what contamination.
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Reminds me of the Bank datacentre I used to visit on occasion, where there were all sorts of security & ID checks for visitors before we could gain access ; while onsite one day doing a security audit on behalf of the customer we discovered that contract cleaning staff were allowed to badge themselves in and out of the machine halls without anyone challenging them or checking the contents of the trolleys they were pushing.
 
Since we're comparing stories, I worked for a pharmaceutical company with a 'continment' facility - basically a big stainless steel tin covered in bricks and roof. Access was through 2 separate sets of interlocked entryways. The first was through a long tunnel of mesh fencing outside the building and passed round at least 2 sides, the door at the far end could only be opened after the first was closed. The second was inside the building, requiring workers to strip and then open one door, shower in the anteroom before they could open the next door and dress for work. Leaving the building required the same again.
 
ancient_mariner said:
Since we're comparing stories, I worked for a pharmaceutical company with a 'continment' facility - basically a big stainless steel tin covered in bricks and roof. Access was through 2 separate sets of interlocked entryways. The first was through a long tunnel of mesh fencing outside the building and passed round at least 2 sides, the door at the far end could only be opened after the first was closed. The second was inside the building, requiring workers to strip and then open one door, shower in the anteroom before they could open the next door and dress for work. Leaving the building required the same again.
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That's nothing, years ago where I used to work, if you were getting married, the day before your workmates would grab hold of you, strip you naked, hold you on the oily wooden block floor and nail rubber strips across your wrists and ankles, then poor cold baked beans, gravy and custard all over you.
 
THIRTYFIVEMILL said:
I hardly think you'd class that as a "tradition"... certainly not in my same surname family.. :oops: :$
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No but it is another anachronism that belongs in the past.
 
nilagin said:
That's nothing, years ago where I used to work, if you were getting married, the day before your workmates would grab hold of you, strip you naked, hold you on the oily wooden block floor and nail rubber strips across your wrists and ankles, then poor cold baked beans, gravy and custard all over you.
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We had a pond on the pithead at one pit and it was tradition for ‘a swim’ on the last day of freedom, the goldfish probably hated it, most guys went willingly cause at least they went in before getting out of workwear and into the showers, pretty sure there would be sackings now if things like that went on.
 
nilagin said:
Loosen tie, slip off over head to remove.
To put back on, slip back over the head, tuck under shirt collar and retighten.
That's what we did for school.
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Ruins the Silk dear boy...

In fairness however, the years of wearing ties at school stood me in good stead, as at least I never needed to look in a mirror when re-doing the Full Windsor.
 
If I had to pick one thing it would be

Religion
 
i would abandon pretty much all formal dress - now that working from home is so common the need for it is pretty much redundant - even pre covid the company where i worked voted pretty much unanimously to allow casual wear (before that we just had 'dress down fridays') ps sorry about using 'pretty much' 3 times lol
 
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mj4456 said:
We had a pond on the pithead at one pit and it was tradition for ‘a swim’ on the last day of freedom, the goldfish probably hated it, most guys went willingly cause at least they went in before getting out of workwear and into the showers, pretty sure there would be sackings now if things like that went on.
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I don't think there were many that got stripped after me in the 89, as we started getting a few young ladies as apprentices.
I do remember one lad, he seemed to quite like being stripped and continued to walk around naked for a good while after he had managed to get the nails out of the straps.
 
boliston said:
i would abandon pretty much all formal dress - now that working from home is so common the need for it is pretty much redundant - even pre covid the company where i worked voted pretty much unanimously to allow casual wear (before that we just had 'dress down fridays') ps sorry about using 'pretty much' 3 times lol
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My attire is so informal and casual, the only pair of shoes I have are the ones I bought for my son's wedding that got cancelled last year, same goes for a suit.
It's all jeans, t shirts and trainers for me and always has been, apart from when I got married.
 
boliston said:
even pre covid the company where i worked voted pretty much unanimously to allow casual wear
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Aaaarggghhh!

I once worked at a site where everyone dressed down except muggins. I had to visit "The House of Knobs", as it was almost universally known, on an irregular basis when a suit was de rigueur. I used to compromise by leaving a cardy on the back of my chair and wearing that except when I answered "the summons". Perhaps I should have gone overboard and shown up dressed like this...

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Pierced ears (and other parts o_O).
 
I think you'll find that piercing goes back way further than known history... As does tattooing.
 
Nod said:
I think you'll find that piercing goes back way further than known history... As does tattooing.
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Yup, and that's where I'd like to have left them. :)
 
Nod said:
Because it's an anachronism dating back to when wives were considered to be the property of the husband.
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Err...wha? You mean they are no longer considered to be the property of a man?
I'd better pop down to the cellar and remove her chains :) :exit:
 
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Not Austrian, are you?
 
'Independent coastal states' pretending they are still World Powers (give it 20 years).

Cancer, heart disease, dementia and infectious diseases (might take more than 20 years).

Transmitting stupid and disproven ideas over social media (might never be solved).

dSLRs, sadly.

Arguments about UV filters.

Land lines.

Monarchy.

Pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere than is removed.

Mrs Brown's Boys.

Nigel Farage.
 
Retune said:
'Independent coastal states' pretending they are still World Powers (give it 20 years).

Cancer, heart disease, dementia and infectious diseases (might take more than 20 years).

Transmitting stupid and disproven ideas over social media (might never be solved).

dSLRs, sadly.

Arguments about UV filters.

Land lines.

Monarchy.

Pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere than is removed.

Mrs Brown's Boys.

Nigel Farage.
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Overall, a quality list.
 
robj20 said:
Nothing wrong with it I was keen for my wife to take my name.
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Certainly makes it easier when it comes to children. If both parents have different surnames, which one is used for the children? Double-barrel? First child mum's, second child dad's, third child.... lol Although, when there's a divorce I think it's fair to say that the children often go with the mum, so perhaps it would be better for the guy to take the woman's surname? A bit of a negative outlook though I guess.
 
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