These young girls travelling to Syria

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A grade students, all from the same school. There's so many questions. How did they get radicalised, who bought them airline tickets to Turkey.

Poor parents must be distraught
 
I thought about starting this thread. Now it's here I'm getting my popcorn ready :D
 
It is very sad and difficult to understand, can only hope it will turn out well.

I wonder if anything can be done at airports. A simple 'anyone under the age of 18 cannot fly unless accompanied by an adult' could solve it, but I appreciate there are

(a) reasons why unaccompanied children do fly, and

(b) it would not be fool proof,

but it might help.

Dave
 
Tringa said:
It is very sad and difficult to understand, can only hope it will turn out well.

I wonder if anything can be done at airports. A simple 'anyone under the age of 18 cannot fly unless accompanied by an adult' could solve it, but I appreciate there are

(a) reasons why unaccompanied children do fly, and

(b) it would not be fool proof,

but it might help.

Dave
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I am quite surprised that there are not certain restrictions on "children" flying unaccompanied, particularly youngsters from a "certain" background flying to Turkey. How did they buy the tickets, and why were no questions asked by security staff, bearing in mind that Turkey is the most common transit point for people travelling to join ISIL.
They already knew another girl their age who went to join ISIL last year, so who have they been in contact with, and how widespread is this radicalisation of youngsters in some schools.
 
Facebrick and t***ter are also your average fundamentalist's radicalisation tool of choice.
 
Tringa said:
It is very sad and difficult to understand, can only hope it will turn out well.
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I can't possibly imagine how can it possibly turn out well. Ok I'm not of their faith, but I'm intrigued to know what takes place during radicalisation to make someone suddenly think this would a good idea, leave behind their relatively easy and safe lives and make such a move. As I said before, once radicalised, it's better for our safety they are out of the country. What would we do with them if we got them back? I would hope there would be some sort of "paper trail" leading up to their departure, so steps can be taken to prevent anyone else being radicalised.
 
IMO We should ask all the do gooders for their idea's on best way of tackling this horrendous problem. (maybe send the do gooders for the IS to practice on)
I dont understand the mentallity of people that shout that controls should be in place to stop this sort of thing happening but whoa betide any government that imposes these sort of controls, the same people then become outraged at loses more civil liberties.
 
Paul-H said:
If they are stupid enough to go there then they are stupid enough to deserver everything that is going to happen to them once they are there.

Good riddance I say.

Sorry I don't do Political Correctness ;)
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Trouble is at 15 and 16 they are easily influenced, finding their way in the world, and let's face it we all made silly mistakes. You've only got to see the numbers of teenagers in jail for carrying a package for someone.
these are British citizens and as such we should be tracking down how these girls were influenced, who bought them the tickets.
Unaccompanied children are allowed to fly. No doubt who bought them the tickets also told the airline they were flying out to be met by relatives.
They must have been collected from the airport in Turkey, CCTV etc?
 
Who's to say they didn't buy their own tickets?
 
Byker28i said:
Trouble is at 15 and 16 they are easily influenced, finding their way in the world, and let's face it we all made silly mistakes. You've only got to see the numbers of teenagers in jail for carrying a package for someone.
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True but you don't think seeking to be with someone who goes around beheading people a bit beyond that?
 
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viv1969 said:
Who's to say they didn't buy their own tickets?
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£200 plus for 16 year olds? They must have had them before as no airline will sell them to young girls direct at the airport, far too suspicious.
 
It's amazing what the ultra devout of any religion will be persuaded to do in the name of their god.
 
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£200 plus for 16 year olds? They must have had them before as no airline will sell them to young girls direct at the airport, far too suspicious.
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The internet and a debit card.
 
If someone has radicalised them so much that they'll leave their families, then personally I suspect they've had help with their travel arrangements. The price of two or three tickets on a family debit card is quickly noticed. Then they'll be met at the airport, or told to go somewhere on arrival? Antalya to the Syrian border? They won't be crossing at a regular border crossing.

There must be some sort of trail as to who helped and persuaded them.
 
Family debit card?
At sixteen I had my own account and card and funds are easily transferred.
 
Tringa said:
It is very sad and difficult to understand, can only hope it will turn out well.

I wonder if anything can be done at airports. A simple 'anyone under the age of 18 cannot fly unless accompanied by an adult' could solve it, but I appreciate there are

(a) reasons why unaccompanied children do fly, and

(b) it would not be fool proof,

but it might help.

Dave
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Take this to its logical conclusion. A 16 - 17 year old couple, living independently, with a child or children of their own; or a 16 - 17 year old member of the armed forces, would be unable to travel unless they can find an adult with the time and resources to accompany them. How would this prevent youngsters travelling under the "supervision" of a radicalised adult who encourages and supports their intentions?
 
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Don't know if they were born here or came here, but they and their ilk were/are living in the wrong country. They are probably heading to a place more suited to their primitive needs.
 
nothing like a good holiday in the sun ,sand and sex included ,sounds like a good package and there passports will already have been flagged up to prevent a return .
 
andy700 said:
I am quite surprised that there are not certain restrictions on "children" flying unaccompanied, particularly youngsters from a "certain" background flying to Turkey. How did they buy the tickets, and why were no questions asked by security staff, bearing in mind that Turkey is the most common transit point for people travelling to join ISIL.
They already knew another girl their age who went to join ISIL last year, so who have they been in contact with, and how widespread is this radicalisation of youngsters in some schools.
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Because we are too pc in this country. Picking on the most likely groups is considered racist by the liberals.
 
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cambsno said:
Because we are too pc in this country. Picking on the most likely groups is considered racist by the liberals.
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There's quite a few children fly unaccompanied. Quite a safe place for them. They are met at the airport check in and have staff with them until they are handed over to the stewards on the plane. They've nowhere to go then, are regularly checked, and then staff pick them up when they leave the plane. It also works for my wife's elderly and disabled aunt, only she gets taken through terminals in a golf cart.
 
arclight said:
Don't know if they were born here or came here, but they and their ilk were/are living in the wrong country. They are probably heading to a place more suited to their primitive needs.
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You sure? It's not that impressionable children at a vulnerable age have been misled and are possibly the real victims in this? The ones to deport are those filling their heads with such nonsense?

Then again, you mentioned primitive needs. I'm assuming that was meant as a derogatory term?
After all the four primitive needs are said to be food, sleep, self preservation and sex. Or are you using primitive in the term of early stage of development?

the black fox said:
nothing like a good holiday in the sun ,sand and sex included ,sounds like a good package and there passports will already have been flagged up to prevent a return .
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Is that right though? What if they are stopped before they get there? Wouldnt the best place to be back amongst their family? Would you have them put into care, or would you propose just escorting them to their intended destination, at which point wheres the line between those radicalising children and your opinion?

Sod them, send them over there? Is that the correct way to address this problem do you think?
"Bloody whitey doesn't care anyway, ignoring those innocents suffering and dying", or should we approach this head on instead of ignoring it, active education is schools. Make it part of the religious education, social studies, some hard hitting truths about ISIS atrocities, the restrictions, especially on Women.

Haven't these girl been effectively groomed?
 
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I blame their parents for forcing religion on them - other than that I couldn't give a flying monkeys. The news shouldn't be broadcasting this, it really is a non-event up there with a royal being pregnant
 
POAH said:
I blame their parents for forcing religion on them - other than that I couldn't give a flying monkeys. The news shouldn't be broadcasting this, it really is a non-event up there with a royal being pregnant
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My parents forced religion on me - made me go to Sunday school every week. I don't believe that was to be religious, rather than to reinforce a set of moral codes to live by. It certainly didn't want me to go all jihad on people (although some drivers...)
Ultimately we are all influenced, by parents, church, peers and finally the laws of the country.

Does anyone know 100% what their teenager is up to?
 
Byker28i said:
My parents forced religion on me - made me go to Sunday school every week. I don't believe that was to be religious, rather than to reinforce a set of moral codes to live by. It certainly didn't want me to go all jihad on people (although some drivers...)
Ultimately we are all influenced, by parents, church, peers and finally the laws of the country.

Does anyone know 100% what their teenager is up to?
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I really hope you your moral compass isn't influenced by the bible lol
 
didn't realise two were only 15, and plenty of kids go missing each year so why are two of the three so special to make the news.
 
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Byker28i said:
Ultimately we are all influenced, by parents, church, peers and finally the laws of the country.
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But at that age, mostly peers ... and it is reported that an old schoolfriend who had travelled to Syria had been communicating with them via a social network.
 
POAH said:
didn't realise two were only 15, and plenty of kids go missing each year so why are two of the three so special to make the news.
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Because they've been seen visibly leaving the country to go to another where its possible there are terrorist links.

They might just be going to see more about where their culture is from, learn more about their ancestors, or it could be more sinister. It makes interesting news.

A lot of kids do go missing, but its commonly reported. Why should this NOT be reported? IMHO, NOT reporting something is censorship.
 
and if they come back I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law
 
POAH said:
and if they come back I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law
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Yes, but no doubt that there will be a queue of people waiting to make excuses for them.
 
It sounds to me, from many of the comments here, that some have forgotten what it's like to be 15 or 16 and to feel strongly enough about what you see as injustices to do something. :whistle:
 
Boobs and motorbikes for me. The injustices were being stopped three or four times a week by the police as I looked about 12
 
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