The virus. PPE. Part 1

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KitsuneAndy said:
Why didn't you make this statement earlier?

Might as well have said "because I hadn't made it up yet" for how convincing it was.
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Yes, it a classic school kid type of explanation when caught out doing something wrong which makes me think Johnson had a hand in polishing this turd ;).
Land Rovers obviously get remarkable mileage these days if he's not sure if he refueled it in 600miles.
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was it a Land Rover, I missed that?
 
sphexx said:
Yes, it a classic school kid type of explanation when caught out doing something wrong which makes me think Johnson had a hand in polishing this turd ;).

was it a Land Rover, I missed that?
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Someone on Twitter said it was, might be wrong. Doesn't actually matter if he only refueled on the way home though.
 
Tringa said:
The question now is why wasn't this, apparently plausible, explanation given earlier? It is interesting that he said his wife wished the bloke by the river, "Happy Easter". Odd the bloke didn't mention it.

I can't find the 'exceptional circumstances' anywhere in the government guidance. The only thing I can find about children says -


"If you are living with children

Keep following this advice to the best of your ability, however, we are aware that not all these measures will be possible.

What we have seen so far is that children with coronavirus (COVID-19) appear to be less severely affected. It is nevertheless important to do your best to follow this guidance."


If his house had been attacked why haven't we heard about this before now and why wasn't the police protection?

It also calls into question the PM's statement in yesterday's briefing that allegations had been made about Dominic Cummings which were, 'palpably false'. Apart from denying he returned to Durham a second time, which also could have been cleared up earlier, it appears DC has confirmed everything else that had been alleged.

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I have just searched through the NHS Covid-19 guidelines and like ‘Tringa’ above I can find no reference to these “exceptional circumstances” related to children that DC referred to more than once. Has anyone found them ?
 
KitsuneAndy said:
Why didn't you make this statement earlier?

Might as well have said "because I hadn't made it up yet" for how convincing it was.

Land Rovers obviously get remarkable mileage these days if he's not sure if he refueled it in 600miles.
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Quite easy really he hoped you wouldn't find out about it and then once the story broke he had to wait to find out what the press knew so he could could make up a plausible(well to the gullible) but totally unbelievable story as to why he drove to Durham , why he spent a day in Barnard Castle with his family also he had to get his dates right for having completed my coronavirus quarantine because to many people had seen them in Barnard Castle to deny it. His story is almost as believable a that of Oscar Pistorius you know the South African former professional sprinter who was convicted of killing his girlfriend.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
You have a right to your own opinion as all people do individually. So did the nazis in the 1930s Germany.
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I didn't expect to find Godwin's law invoked in this thread.
But here we have it...
 
sphexx said:
If he doesn't go I’ll blame you :)
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Well I thought his speech was lovely and he was telling the truth when he spoke and straight from his heart, everyone must now be happy for him :p

Apart from that speech I think Prince Andrew was better, but both of them were a load of cow dung :LOL:
 
sphexx said:
Now the Attorney General faces calls to resign after she defends Dominic Cummings:
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This is turning into a very bad and quite tasteless sitcom (possibly with a title like "Just Say Anything"). :sulk:
 
"I wasn't sure I'd be well enough to drive the 260 miles to London, so I drove 60 miles to test my eyesight. Driving made me feel so sick that I had to pull over and that confirmed that I was definitely back to full health and fine to drive 260 miles home".

Anyone actually believe that drivel?

And if you do believe it, what about the fact that means he still had symptoms and so should have isolated for a further 7 days?
 
sphexx said:
Yes, it a classic school kid type of explanation when caught out doing something wrong which makes me think Johnson had a hand in polishing this turd ;).

was it a Land Rover, I missed that?
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Driving from London to Durham without taking a break is pretty reckless too, aren't drivers advised to take a break after 2 hours (according to the highway code) ?
 
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During the press conference Dominic Cummings said we look at how seriously he took this pandemic, and that he predicted, and wrote about, the risk of a coronavirus pandemic in the past. Only he didn't. He edited his blogs from 2019 when he got back to work in April this year, adding the paragraph about Coronavirus.

Yep, totally trustworthy bloke.

The reference to it is in reference to biolab accidents as well, gearing up to blame China, following Trumps playbook?

Full thread here:

View: https://BANNED/faisalislam/status/1265011724111011845
 
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KitsuneAndy said:
During the press conference Dominic Cummings said we look at how seriously he took this pandemic, and that he predicted, and wrote about, the risk of a coronavirus pandemic in the past. Only he didn't. He edited his blogs from 2019 when he got back to work in April this year, adding the paragraph about Coronavirus.

Yep, totally trustworthy bloke.

The reference to it is in reference to biolab accidents as well, gearing up to blame China, following Trumps playbook?

Full thread here:

View: https://BANNED/faisalislam/status/1265011724111011845
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This is all very curious. The inserted text isn't originally by Cummings, it's a quotation from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists about the risks of pathogen release from high containment labs. Cummings was already quoting this piece in the original version, but expanded the quote to included the bit about the SARS coronavirus incident. Someone has found the edit record in his site's sitemap.xml file, which suggests he changed the post (over a year old at this point) on 14 April, the day he returned to work from Durham. Someone else in the Twitter thread attempts to defend Cummings by noting that a piece in the Express back in March was claiming 'Cummings may have predicted the outbreak of coronavirus':

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...gs-pandemic-outbreak-china-wuhan-lab-pathogen

But it's notable that the text the Express quotes from his blog (the same post that now has the mysterious insert) contains no reference to coronavirus - ''Cummings may have predicted the outbreak of coronavirus' seems to be pure editorialising (and is in any case nonsense, since Cummings is talking about lab accidents, not natural outbreaks). Surely the Express journalists would have quoted or at least mentioned the coronavirus section if it had been there in March when they wrote the article? I wonder if Cummings saw the article, was flattered by the description of his supposed prescience, and decided to slip in the coronavirus reference retroactively to 'support' it? Or did he already have an eye on using it to 'defend' his reputation?
 
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RWDW said:
Wow! 10-11 pages about Mr Cummings.

If he is convicted of breaking the lockdown rules then he should resign/be dismissed: rather than 'trial by media' let the Police investigate and present the evidence to the CPS.
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Is that what happened for the Chief Medical Officer in Scotland? Or government advisor Professor Ferguson?

:thinking::thinking::thinking:
 
So as countries begin to ease lockdowns with many starting to reopen borders and end quarantines, why are we planning on bringing this in 2 weeks from now? Hasn’t the horse already bolted?
 
cambsno said:
So as countries begin to ease lockdowns with many starting to reopen borders and end quarantines, why are we planning on bringing this in 2 weeks from now? Hasn’t the horse already bolted?
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One would have thought so
 
No surprise this morning, Government ministers are standing by and supporting Cummings saying he has done nothing wrong, I wonder will they have the attitude when the next bundle of opinion polls hit their desks?
 
"He's a man of honour and integrity"..... :LOL::LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: - Gove on BBC this morning.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
You have a right to your own opinion as all people do individually. So did the nazis in the 1930s Germany.
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oh dear me, Someone unplug the Irony Meters before they get damaged please...

Disagreement with Christofascist petition site compared to Nazism. Heil.gifHitler.gif

You really are a tinfoil hat wearing fruitcake aren't you...
 
mex said:
No surprise this morning, Government ministers are standing by and supporting Cummings saying he has done nothing wrong, I wonder will they have the attitude when the next bundle of opinion polls hit their desks?
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Why should he publicly apologise? He only, by his own admission, potentially spread COVID in Durham and potentially exposed local NHS to the virus when he visited the hospital, thus breaking the entire point of the travel ban.

It's not like he drank a mojito on a train.
 
I voted for Brexit on the admittedly narrow premise that I did not want to be governed by unelected bureaucrats. It now appears that an unelected ‘advisor’ wields tremendous influence via the ‘ear’ of the elected Prime Minister. This ‘advisor’ appears to have become essential to BJ based on current events. I find this disturbing and undemocratic.
 
KitsuneAndy said:
The thing about not knowing if he refueled or not was just jarring because there was so much detail in everything else.

It was like "crap, we didn't already pre-rehearse an answer to this question"
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There's no way he told porkies, he's a man of honour AND integrity.
 
I'm not condoning his actions but the general rule everyone goes on about, is that high profiled people should be treated the same as anyone else and if they receive special privileges there's an outcry. Therefore why should he resign and not just receive a fine.
While we are on about fine and rules, shouldn't the media surrounding him within 2 metres be fined and prosecuted for harassment?
Shouldn't people running the country have better security and provision for any issues that arise, so this sort of thing doesn't happen in the future?
 
badlywornroy said:
I voted for Brexit on the admittedly narrow premise that I did not want to be governed by unelected bureaucrats. It now appears that an unelected ‘advisor’ wields tremendous influence via the ‘ear’ of the elected Prime Minister. This ‘advisor’ appears to have become essential to BJ based on current events. I find this disturbing and undemocratic.
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Are you saying you don't know what politicians are like? They're all the same, they will tell you want you want to hear and ignore you when you complain.:LOL:
 
dcash29 said:
I'm not condoning his actions but the general rule everyone goes on about, is that high profiled people should be treated the same as anyone else and if they receive special privileges there's an outcry. Therefore why should he resign and not just receive a fine.
While we are on about fine and rules, shouldn't the media surrounding him within 2 metres be fined and prosecuted for harassment?
Shouldn't people running the country have better security and provision for any issues that arise, so this sort of thing doesn't happen in the future?
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It’s not consistent though is it? Prof Ferguson resigned from SAGE to much sneering & applause from HMG although in fact he had not broken any rule, but had possibly condoned a breach committed by his girl friend.
 
dcash29 said:
Are you saying you don't know what politicians are like? They're all the same, they will tell you want you want to hear and ignore you when you complain.:LOL:
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Politicians have such high opinions of themselves and their colleagues that I've formulated the following principle: only mention them when they do something wrong; otherwise remain silent. :sulk:
 
badlywornroy said:
I voted for Brexit on the admittedly narrow premise that I did not want to be governed by unelected bureaucrats. It now appears that an unelected ‘advisor’ wields tremendous influence via the ‘ear’ of the elected Prime Minister. This ‘advisor’ appears to have become essential to BJ based on current events. I find this disturbing and undemocratic.
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A lot of people are in your position. It’s curious that people find it surprising that now the chief purveyor of lies (provably, in print) about the EU is now our PM he continues his lying and has surrounded himself with liars. Leopards, spots ;).

Some of these liars are now saying Cummings is a man of honesty & integrity, well there’s an old phrase “it takes one to know one”, so how would they know? :)
 
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