The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

Rob I totally agree. I commented that the images were poor. I understand the what’s and wherefores of static panoramas I’ve been doing them since the 1960s, the point of the post was to illustrate the possibility of a large linear image from a moving vehicle if it could be executed smoothly enough.
Thanks for the input.

Rhodese.
 
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Rhodese said:
Rob I totally agree. I commented that the images were poor. I understand the what’s and wherefores of static panoramas I’ve been doing them since the 1960s, the point of the post was to illustrate the possibility of a large linear image from a moving vehicle if it could be executed smoothly enough.
Thanks for the input.

Rhodese.
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Hi, Rhodese. Sorry if I misunderstood. I just think you're overestimating the in-camera software's capabilities. The only vehicle I can think of that would be suitable for what you're trying to achieve is probably a dolly. In other words, I don't think that perseverance and/or dedication could ever bring the results you're after. But then again, I could be wrong...
 
Yv said:
s'alright John, he is threatening to darken our Lundun doorstep in the next month or two, I will post them while he is here and not tell him the wifi password :D
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:p
I've looked at all of them on the Flickr link and would like the guided tour - ideally of prints rather than screen based shots!

My problem with page after page of people's holiday snaps (or even photos!) is that I occasionally visit on my 'phone and pages of photos slow things down. IIRC, there's a 6 image/post limit and multi post series are just a means of bypassing the restriction.
 
adam* said:
What screen protector's are people using that fit?
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Vikuiti DQC160. Fits nicely, easy to apply, and has protected my X10's LCD for the last year. If this one were to come off, I'd buy the same one again.
 
Cheers roben, that the HTC desire screen cover? (That's what amazon is telling me for around £9)
 
My X10's in favour again... :D

I have this thing about ditches. Don't know why. Anyway, this panorama seems to work quite well as it shows before, during and after the reshaping of the ditch.

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A quick self portrait from the other night - Just levels & conversion in silver efx pro

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My dear 1-eyed companion has returned from Fuji. Has anyone else ever had his/her camera returned accompanied by a check list? On the check list it said my camera's optics and electronics had been adjusted, e.g. focal plane, focussing system, etc. Anyway, I'm going through some tests to see whether all is well. Levels are back to where they should be: level :thumbs:

Both shots in M-size, P-mode, DR-Auto, ISO 800-auto. The first one had highlights and shadows slightly recovered and a wee bit of sharpening applied. I find most shots need a bit of sharpening; the lens is, however, reasonably sharp corner to corner.

This shot is straight into the sun. I'm impressed with the flare characteristics of the lens (and there's a UV filter screwed on as well!). What I'm not so chuffed about is the purple glow around my daughter's boots. The boots are in fact purple, but they're not running on batteries ;-) Took the UV filter off and the glow was still there...

DSCF1840-dt-1 by Robenroute, on Flickr


The next shot (SOOC) is okay, but the edge between the snow and the sky is, at least to my eyes, a little over pronounced. What do you lads and ladinas think? Colour, tones, noise, sharpening, etc. were all on 0.

DSCF1842 by Robenroute, on Flickr


Many thanks for your feedback.
 
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Just looked at both at the Large Flickr setting and IMO, the purple on your girl's boots is flare - it stretches beyond her boots and there's another spot near the chimney above her right shoulder. In the snow shot, I see no problems. At forum size, I thought there were oversharpening haloes around the branches but now I think it's just my eyeballs bleeding because it's so sharp!
 
Nod said:
Just looked at both at the Large Flickr setting and IMO, the purple on your girl's boots is flare - it stretches beyond her boots and there's another spot near the chimney above her right shoulder. In the snow shot, I see no problems. At forum size, I thought there were oversharpening haloes around the branches but now I think it's just my eyeballs bleeding because it's so sharp!
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Thanks for taking the time, Nod. The flare below the chimney I found rather normal, but I can't remember having seen flare as pronounced as the glow near her boots using the old lens/sensor. I still think it's within acceptable amounts, it's just... Ah well, I'm just nitpicking, aren't I...

You really think the snow/branches shot is very sharp? I cannot help but think it needs a little extra sharpening. Hmm, perhaps my expectations are a bit high.

Thanks again, Nod!
 
Yup, nitpicking! Almost as bad as pixel peeping!

No harm in trying a little sharpening if you feel it needs it but I don't think it does.

Always happy to help if I think I can.
 
Ed Sutton said:
My X10's in favour again... :D

I have this thing about ditches. Don't know why. Anyway, this panorama seems to work quite well as it shows before, during and after the reshaping of the ditch.

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not bad, but methinks you need to get down and dirty in some ditches, get a different, more unusual perspective to convince of their glamour :D
 
robenroute said:
Vikuiti DQC160. Fits nicely, easy to apply, and has protected my X10's LCD for the last year. If this one were to come off, I'd buy the same one again.
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have ordered one of these, I tried a different one a few months ago and it was dreadful, simply didn't fit, so crossing fingers this one is better ;)
 
Yv said:
have ordered one of these, I tried a different one a few months ago and it was dreadful, simply didn't fit, so crossing fingers this one is better ;)
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There are different sizes, but if you've ordered the X10 version, it should fit precisely. Mine's been on for a year and hasn't come off.
 
robenroute said:
There are different sizes, but if you've ordered the X10 version, it should fit precisely. Mine's been on for a year and hasn't come off.
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yeah I think the one I ordered was very badly made, it seemed to have been cut crookedly, so even when one side lined up, the opposite didn't. Ended up throwing it away. I have ordered the X10 version, so hopefully all will be well. :thumbs:
 
Ed Sutton said:
These any better, or do you want dirtier? :D

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outflow by davelumb, on Flickr
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oh yes, getting down and dirtier, but they are still lacking a little bit. Howabout next time, getting right down near the bottom, position the camer so its close to one side, so that side fades in and back out of focus, and the leading lines run along the ditch into the distance. You could make even small ditches look like great big canyons with such a perspective. ;)
 
robenroute said:
Thanks for taking the time, Nod. The flare below the chimney I found rather normal, but I can't remember having seen flare as pronounced as the glow near her boots using the old lens/sensor. I still think it's within acceptable amounts, it's just... Ah well, I'm just nitpicking, aren't I...

You really think the snow/branches shot is very sharp? I cannot help but think it needs a little extra sharpening. Hmm, perhaps my expectations are a bit high.
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Regarding the lens flare, you can assess it over the next few days/weeks and see if it is as bad, but the purple boots probably exacerbate the issue, hence why it looks worse than you recall.

I thought you were of the opinion the snow edge was over processed?
There are branches definitely not sharp, but that's the lens not being sharp across the frame.
Assuming you used spot focus on the snow, I'd say the camera has done a cracking job on that front.

Any chance you can borrow another/meet up with someone local and compare X10s?
You'd know then where yours stands then.

But if you're not happy, you're not happy.
 
PJ S said:
Regarding the lens flare, you can assess it over the next few days/weeks and see if it is as bad, but the purple boots probably exacerbate the issue, hence why it looks worse than you recall.

I thought you were of the opinion the snow edge was over processed?
There are branches definitely not sharp, but that's the lens not being sharp across the frame.
Assuming you used spot focus on the snow, I'd say the camera has done a cracking job on that front.

Any chance you can borrow another/meet up with someone local and compare X10s?
You'd know then where yours stands then.

But if you're not happy, you're not happy.
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Hi Phil,

Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone personally with an X10. I'll just need to do a bit more testing, I suppose. Regarding that snow/branch shot, the aperture was at f/5, so I would have expected a wee bit more DoF (even though the distance to the branch with the snow was about 3-4 feet. Or maybe I'm miscalculating things...

If the weather allows, I'll be at the same tree tomorrow trying different apertures :nuts:
 
Yv said:
have ordered one of these, I tried a different one a few months ago and it was dreadful, simply didn't fit, so crossing fingers this one is better ;)
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GGS 3" glass one works a treat, dirt cheap really for what it is, I think mine was about £6
 
Robenroute: considering that's shot straight into the sun, I'd have thought it was pretty darn good. Many other cameras would have produced more than a bit of scarcely visible purpole flare near some boots!
 
Yv said:
:shake: misery :lol:
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This is mud Pre x10
I walked out of my boots twice on this site.
shot of canal bottom taken standing on a soft mid stream plug of puddle clay.

bottom Mud was about four feet deep.
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robenroute said:
My dear 1-eyed companion has returned from Fuji. Has anyone else ever had his/her camera returned accompanied by a check list? On the check list it said my camera's optics and electronics had been adjusted, e.g. focal plane, focussing system, etc. Anyway, I'm going through some tests to see whether all is well. Levels are back to where they should be: level :thumbs:

Both shots in M-size, P-mode, DR-Auto, ISO 800-auto. The first one had highlights and shadows slightly recovered and a wee bit of sharpening applied. I find most shots need a bit of sharpening; the lens is, however, reasonably sharp corner to corner.

This shot is straight into the sun. I'm impressed with the flare characteristics of the lens (and there's a UV filter screwed on as well!). What I'm not so chuffed about is the purple glow around my daughter's boots. The boots are in fact purple, but they're not running on batteries ;-) Took the UV filter off and the glow was still there...

DSCF1840-dt-1 by Robenroute, on Flickr
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Rob, this is interesting stuff: the apparent anomoly you've experienced in this charming photo of your daughter is not really like the flare I was getting with snowy, 'into sun' shots of a couple of weeks ago. The photo below wasn't interesting enough to be 'spoilt' in any way, and I've over-lightened it to accentuate the colours that have appeared in the tracks in the snow. I suppose in an important shot, the flare could have been 'brushed out' in Lightroom:


DSCF2777 by wylyeangler, on Flickr

You will notice that the blue band in the flare is accompanied by red too, and this is apparent in all the shots where the phenomenon occurs; so far that is.

I am beginning to suspect that your daughter's boots might actually be the right colour to fluoresce in that strong sunlight with highly reflective snow, and so the UV filter would be of little use. However, that would not explain Nod's point that the colour appears to 'bleed' slightly into its surroundings. If what we see is flare, it is an amazing coincidence that it has targeted the boots so accurately. I wonder if there are any physicists amongst us that could give informed opinion.

By the way, a photo I posted sometime ago, and which Yvonne very kindly edited for me, showed a flare that was not commented on at the time, probably out of the kindness demonstrated in this thread:


PiscatorPete-edit-2 by wylyeangler, on Flickr

Not spotted it yet? Look at the bottom right of the shot, where the river emerges from the arch of the bridge. I get these effects somewhere in nearly all the shots I take into sun, and thought, with my limited experience, it was 'par for the course', but certainly very understated by the X10!

By the way, my X10 has had a sensor change, but I have no shots taken in its original configuration with which to compare 'flaring'.

Pete
 
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Just watched the delivery man bounding up the drive only to drop my newly returned X10 ! (sensor replacement) The battery is on charge now I'll let you know the results and post some up here
 
Rob, Pete, in my post 5712 /1 and 4 the flare is obvious, but isn’t it to be expected in extreme Contre-jour conditions, especially when using such a modest, albeit capable camera?
Or am I missing the point of your posts?
Rhodese.
 
iancandler said:
GGS 3" glass one works a treat, dirt cheap really for what it is, I think mine was about £6
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To be honest Ian, I stopped using the GGS ones after fitting them to my big cameras - the one on the D300 got hit by something [I 'think' the lens hood of the other camera, as both were on a double rapid strap at the time and they possibly hit each other behind me, its the only explainationi can come up with as I certainly didn't bash the camera into anything else.] and shattered on a corner, not only cutting my fingers on the shards of glass as I went to pick the camera up, not knowing it happened, but then giving me an 'entertaining' begloved 20 mins trying to remove it and causing even more cracking and shards of glass. After that I decided that the screen itself was far tougher than the GGS and just fitted the thin film covers to protect from minor scratching and to hold it all together, should the worse have happened and the screen got broken.
 
ChrisR said:
Robenroute: considering that's shot straight into the sun, I'd have thought it was pretty darn good. Many other cameras would have produced more than a bit of scarcely visible purpole flare near some boots!
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I know, Chris. I'm nitpicking. It's probably caused by the fact that my X10 had its inners exchanged at the Fuji resort ;) Now I'm see(k)ing things... Perhaps I should just zip it and get on with enjoying my X10.

Thanks for your comment, Chris.
 
Rhodese said:
Rob, Pete, in my post 5712 /1 and 4 the flare is obvious, but isn’t it to be expected in extreme Contre-jour conditions, especially when using such a modest, albeit capable camera?
Or am I missing the point of your posts?
Rhodese.
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Rhodese, you're absolutely right. Many thanks for putting both my feet back on the ground.
 
Rhodese said:
Rob, Pete, in my post 5712 /1 and 4 the flare is obvious, but isn’t it to be expected in extreme Contre-jour conditions, especially when using such a modest, albeit capable camera?
Or am I missing the point of your posts?
Rhodese.
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Well, possibly: as I read it, Rob is concerned that having had the sensor replaced (which makes one a bit sensitive about whether one's done the right thing!), the X10's well-discussed 'anti-flare' tendency might have been compromised a little. I don't think he's knocking a "modest" camera - just wondering if the new sensor is quite as brilliant as the old in this single respect.

For my own part, I supposed that the effect (very minor as Chris points out) was not flare at all, and offered an alternative explanation (from a position of no expertise at all!). The example shots I posted were definite examples of flare from my own camera, but which I dismissed as "par for the course'' and "understated" by the X10, meaning I think the camera performs very well in this regard.

Pete
 
Yv said:
To be honest Ian, I stopped using the GGS ones after fitting them to my big cameras - the one on the D300 got hit by something [I 'think' the lens hood of the other camera, as both were on a double rapid strap at the time and they possibly hit each other behind me, its the only explainationi can come up with as I certainly didn't bash the camera into anything else.] and shattered on a corner...
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Similar experience for me and a friend with GGS protectors chipping at the edge and then cracking...
 
I use the thin soft plastic variety.
I have few expectations that they will stop serious damage. But they do stop abrasion and loss of quality caused by small scratches. I can clean them quickly with anything that comes to hand, usually a quick swipe with the side of my thumb.
when they reach the end of their life they are quickly changed ... and back to square one.
 
Gratutious plug moment, if anyone hasn't been to Morocco and would like to know a bit more, I have been writing a blog and including many of the pictures from the flickr set. You are more than welcome to have a read, though be warned, I am no travel journalist ;)

http://yvonnewhitephotography.com/musings/ Days 1 to 5 currently listed, the rest will follow over the next few days.
 
Great blog Yvonne, especially interesting as we are heading over there next month.

Are all the pics with your X10?
I am trying to decide what kit to take and this may well sway me to travel lighter that I was intending
 
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