The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

We have a Dyrham Park here in Nth London too, but I suspect any deer have been driven well away given its a very high end golf club, never felt so safe parking my car with boot full of equipment in the car park with 2 security guards and a plethora of CCTV cameras guarding what probably totalled more than a million pounds worth or two of automotive bling! :eek:

A different sort of "deer" at the nineteenth hole I suspect!

Yes, Souldeep might feel sorry for us 'small town' guys (or was that just irony?), but there are compensations to living in our neck of the woods.

Pete
 
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Pete - I'd swap for the country in whisper if I could work from home - you may have noticed from my photos but that's where I spend most of my weekends :)

Oh and just to clarify if someone now reads Pete's statement out of context...

It was in reference to how travel enables one to have access to a large range of interesting and exotic subject matter to photograph, which one wouldn't have if rooted in a small town without wider travel. It was certainly not a comparison between London and small towns!
 
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Pete... I have a penchant for looking for snakes. Here's an adder from last year, but before I got my X10. Was a fuji compact though - the F30.

Never mind the camera, Souldeep, what a great shot! The adders I've come across don't hang around.

Never seen one on Mendip as I say, but a year or two back during a warm spell (remember them?!), I nearly trod on one at the edge of a local field, spotting it at the last split second, but thinking it was a huge coil of doggie you-know-what, narrowly avoided it. It was a bit of a surprise when it came to life and shot off! I shouldn't like to have got bitten though; many, many years ago, a little girl related to someone I knew died as a result of an adder bite on Mendip.

I'd like to get a photo like yours, but how do you find 'em with any certainty? - for wild life, you ain't doing bad for a Londoner!

Pete
 
Hehe - Finding snakes is the easy part - getting a good macro without being bitten is the hard part - I've even got pictures from the Island of Sardinia (which they claim is snake free!). Sorry another Fuji F30 shot so I promise I won’t post anymore but it’s Pete’s fault for asking about adders;

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When I was a kid I used to breed slow worms, grass snakes and twice I bred adders. Yes all found in London! First attempt was a mess as I didn't know the mothers ate their own babies but then there after was quite successful and released lots into the wild :) You should see the adders mating dance – quite something!

So anyway to the question – finding adders can be quite easy actually. Firstly it’s good to note you rarely see them from Oct – March as they semi hibernate. Temp below 10 degrees and they just stop. I have seen an adder before, in the winter curled up in the sun, but it’s rare. Bracken / Gorse / Heather is common territory although open forest is good as well if mixed with heathland. Sounds like you are checking hedgerows which is a pretty good place to check for them. I would walk quietly along the sun side of the hedgerow and look for them on any flattish stones at the bottom of the hedgerow in the sun. Look for a bit of sun, rocks and gorse combined and you’ll get them at their most relaxed so you can get close. But do be careful with an adder as when they are threatened they will bite and my f30 took a knock last year when I got too close to one.

I have come across a few large adder nests - they can be communal and a nest of adders even sends the shivers up me when they shoot out as a collective around you.

If you still want to look this winter turning logs and stones along your local hedgrows may turn up a rather sleepy adder or grass snake.
 
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Does anyone know what the X10 chooses when you select Fireworks on the program mode? I don't have it with me and just wondered what ISO, Shutter speed and Aperture is associated with the mode.
 
Just had an email from Fuji offering a two year super cover warranty for £45.

Anyone going to go for it after the year default warranty is up?

Sorry I’ll stop posting now – I’m spamming this thread the past few days.
 
Does anyone know what the X10 chooses when you select Fireworks on the program mode? I don't have it with me and just wondered what ISO, Shutter speed and Aperture is associated with the mode.

Hello Souldeep,

Just turned to Fireworks in SP mode, and it indicates ISO and DR set to AUTO. Not quite dark here, but poked the camera out of the window at the darkest area I could find, and it records the picture taken at F9 and 1.3 second exposure, ISO100 was chosen.

Pete
 
Whilst i'm here, can anyone tell me why i can't have a long exposure AND higher ISO. In manual mode, if i were to up the ISO, i'm limited in the shutter time of the exposure. I was trying a few star shots and was getting quite annoyed when it wouldn't let me do it. One seemed to come out alright but i would have preferred more light :/


The Night Sky by andyroberts1868, on Flickr

And one of Halsall firework display :) i was quite far away so i've had to do some cropping on this one :)

Bonfire Night by andyroberts1868, on Flickr
 
Hey Andy - two great shots!

I think it has something to do with the sensor.

At ISO 12800 I think you can have a shutter speed around 4th whatever the aperture setting (this goes for all settings below which may blow my sensor blooming theory out the window).

At ISO 3200 1 second tops.

At ISO 1600 2 seconds tops.

At ISO 800 4 seconds tops (coincidental sounds like the in camera fireworks setting).

At ISO 400 8 seconds tops.

At ISO 200 15 seconds tops and ISO 100 30 seconds tops.

I guess for me - if in manual why the heck can't we set what we want so we can mess up the pictures as we want :)

I just got back from a fireworks display in Crystal Palace and was playing around with the settings. Not sure I got anything good but my first time trying to shoot fireworks. Will download and post results.
 
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Yeah those sound very similar to the settings I was limited to. I was asking myself the same question before, I'm sure my Nikon can do such a thing! :/ I paid for the camera, it should be doing as I say! :lol:

Thanks btw :) I just wish the night sky one was brighter, but we've been over this :) I think it came out okay in the end :)
 
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Just had an email from Fuji offering a two year super cover warranty for £45.

Anyone going to go for it after the year default warranty is up?

I got that one, too. I rarely take these offers up, but I'm tempted this time. My X10 is back with them for the 3rd time, this time having the thumb grip glued back again (I hope).
 
Hey Chris - that's why I was wondering as well. I have been quite lucky with my X10 but hearing they few horror stories, and knowing this cam will suit me for foreseeable future, without I win the lottery (which I don't play) and can afford the Leica 0-Serie Nr.107 which looks like the best cam I could get for the type of photography I enjoy, then it's worth covering the X10 for that price for the next two years come March.
 
So had a try with removing the caste. First one with caste still in picture;

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The following without;

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But like Roben mentioned - I can't help wondering if the colour caste doesn't actually add something to these particular shots :thinking:
 
Yeah those sound very similar to the settings I was limited to. I was asking myself the same question before, I'm sure my Nikon can do such a thing! :/ I paid for the camera, it should be doing as I say! :lol:

Thanks btw :) I just wish the night sky one was brighter, but we've been over this :) I think it came out okay in the end :)

Can I ask what your settings were for the firework shot? I've been downloading the photos to my PC this morning and I don't think they are a touch on your shot. I was shooting ISO 100 from 1 second up to 15 seconds around f8 to f11.

What surprises me about your shot is I'm guessing that the shutter can't be much more than 5 seconds judging by the firework in the image yet you have loads of background info including clouds. Suggests a higher ISO with lower aperture I guess.
 
I've seen it recommended to turn in camera sharpness down a notch as it is more post processing friendly; your results support that suggestion.

Hey Duncan - I could have sworn I remember a number setting in camera for this but when I set it up back for the Sarajevo set. Anyway since then settings have been reset with visits back to Fuji. I have just gone to the settings - sharpness option - and can only see Hard, Medium Hard, Standard, Medium Soft and Soft. It's set at Standard by default so is the recommendation to switch to Medium Soft? Am I losing it or is there another in camera sharpness setting using numbers somewhere?
 
Of course, that one was f/5.6 for 5 seconds at ISO 100 according to the exif on Flickr :) I think the clouds you can see are actually smoke, from a mixture of the fire and previous fireworks, so the smoke was close to the light source so it shows up. In fact it must be because the sky was practically clear hence the night sky shot :lol:

That was my best exposed shot for sure, with a longer shutter for more detail in the ground etc the fireworks were well over-exposed so that was the middle ground :)
 
I'm fairly sure the exposure limits tied to ISO is so that we can't burn our sensor out as it is a small sensor =] Most compacts with even smaller sensors can't even do 30 seconds at any ISO.
 
I posted about the ISO v duration thing last December, but I'll forgive you for not remembering. ;)
Here's the light painting shot that caused to me trip across the problem.
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I think the way to approach long exposures on the X10 is to take in RAW at ISO 100, 30s.
Then use the X10's amazing ability to recover shadows to extract the detail.
In the light painting shot above there are stars visible, and that's without upping the exposure in PP. So I think it will work!

I've been meaning to try taking a decent shot of the night sky as a proof that this idea works, but haven't got around to it.
 
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Just a quick one from this morning, taken in the grounds of the hotel we stayed in overnight for Yves Gezas birthday. I set it to underexposure a bit as the sun was confuddling it, then pulled the shadows back in LR4. Also tested out Duncans theory that reovering shadows on the X10 is mush easier than highlights and he is, unsurprisingly, totally correct :lol:


sunrise by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr
 
Just a quick one from this morning, taken in the grounds of the hotel we stayed in overnight for Yves Gezas birthday. I set it to underexposure a bit as the sun was confuddling it, then pulled the shadows back in LR4. Also tested out Duncans theory that reovering shadows on the X10 is mush easier than highlights and he is, unsurprisingly, totally correct :lol:

Mmmm - nice shot.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but for balance I just got it spectacularly wrong over in another thread about the 135mm f2!
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=5100795#post5100795
As I've said many times on TP (including this thread) - do your own tests and decide what works best for you.
 
One from me processed on iPad using snapseed.

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[/url] flower in sun by Thunderbird_010, on Flickr[/IMG]

Andy

Going way back here, but I must say I really like that - one thing that annoys me when I use snapseed or any other apps like that, you end up with a very grainy effect to the photo... sometimes quite distracting :(

Love the photo though! :) I'll be getting my x10 in Feb once my phone bill drops!!!:D
 
Wow - striking image Yv! Dig the signature as well.

Duncan - yep understand regarding the shadow recovery. As a disciple of yours you know how often I repost your mantras ;-) I shot jpg rather than RAW last night though although using ISO 100.

Asa - can a sensor really get cooked? How could I do that? I shoot direct into the sun often :(
 
Asa - can a sensor really get cooked? How could I do that? I shoot direct into the sun often :(

I was wondering too. :thinking:
The pixel density on the X10 is nothing exceptional, it's roughly equivalent to the current generation of cropped sensor cameras.
The X10 sensor is smaller APSC, hence less pixels.
Generally speaking, heat dissipation should be harder on a large sensor, so regards long exposures the X10 should be at least as capable as a DSLR with the same pixel density.
So I don't think heat build up is the problem that is limiting max shutter duration.

I've never heard of a sensor getting damaged by shooting into the sun.
But there must be some point at which it becomes a problem!
 
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Beautiful shot Yvonne. Heres a couple from this morning. I desperately wanted to get a shot of Canterbury Cathedral in the mist, and have been at this spot a few times. It was a bit mistier and shadowier than I wanted but was in a bit of a rush.



And this is St Johns Church at Swalecliffe. Apparently its 12th Century and built on an old Saxon church ( history lessons too!)



Allan
 
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Just a quick one from this morning, taken in the grounds of the hotel we stayed in overnight for Yves Gezas birthday. I set it to underexposure a bit as the sun was confuddling it, then pulled the shadows back in LR4. Also tested out Duncans theory that reovering shadows on the X10 is mush easier than highlights and he is, unsurprisingly, totally correct :lol:


sunrise by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr

Lovely shot Yvonne.
 
Hehe - Finding snakes is the easy part - getting a good macro without being bitten is the hard part - I've even got pictures from the Island of Sardinia (which they claim is snake free!). Sorry another Fuji F30 shot so I promise I won’t post anymore but it’s Pete’s fault for asking about adders;

When I was a kid I used to breed slow worms, grass snakes and twice I bred adders. Yes all found in London! First attempt was a mess as I didn't know the mothers ate their own babies but then there after was quite successful and released lots into the wild :) You should see the adders mating dance – quite something!

So anyway to the question – finding adders can be quite easy actually. Firstly it’s good to note you rarely see them from Oct – March as they semi hibernate. Temp below 10 degrees and they just stop. I have seen an adder before, in the winter curled up in the sun, but it’s rare. Bracken / Gorse / Heather is common territory although open forest is good as well if mixed with heathland. Sounds like you are checking hedgerows which is a pretty good place to check for them. I would walk quietly along the sun side of the hedgerow and look for them on any flattish stones at the bottom of the hedgerow in the sun. Look for a bit of sun, rocks and gorse combined and you’ll get them at their most relaxed so you can get close. But do be careful with an adder as when they are threatened they will bite and my f30 took a knock last year when I got too close to one.

I have come across a few large adder nests - they can be communal and a nest of adders even sends the shivers up me when they shoot out as a collective around you.

If you still want to look this winter turning logs and stones along your local hedgrows may turn up a rather sleepy adder or grass snake.


This is fascinating stuff, Souldeep, although you won't find me poking around stones in a winter hedgerow - I find slow worms quite scary enough! The photo that accompanied your post shows an adder part-submerged in water - I thought they hated the stuff! As a teenager, I once saw one swimming in the lake I was carp fishing, and so perhaps the books are wrong. As an expert, you can tell us.

Below is a scene local to me, illuminated yesterday by the warm light of a sinking autumn sun. I love how such light picks out minor contours. It is posted to confirm that Duncan's Mendips in the distant background, have returned to their normal colour! Dunno whether to call this one "Sheep may safely graze" or "How green was my valley".

There is a helicopter in the picture, but you'll probably have to 'pixel peep' to find it!


Breach Hill from Gravel Hill by wylyeangler, on Flickr

Pete
 
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Asa - can a sensor really get cooked? How could I do that? I shoot direct into the sun often :(

Yep, I was speaking to the photography/media technicians at uni the other day about my X10 and cameras in general, and they mentioned that people were screwing their compact's sensors by doing longer exposures hence the exposure cap on smaller sensors. I remember when I was shooting video with a 5DmkII the thing got incredibly hot.
I also remember reading warnings on a few websites about shooting directly into the sun but it was just a warning not a "oh god don't do it".

Might be worth more research but that's what I've been told by people I trust :shrug:
 
Just a quick one from this morning, taken in the grounds of the hotel we stayed in overnight for Yves Gezas birthday. I set it to underexposure a bit as the sun was confuddling it, then pulled the shadows back in LR4. Also tested out Duncans theory that reovering shadows on the X10 is mush easier than highlights and he is, unsurprisingly, totally correct :lol:


sunrise by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr

Very, very nice!
 
So here are some landscape oriented offerings from Monday night. Venue was Crystal Palace park in South London. As I mentioned yesterday this was my first time trying to capture fireworks so be gentle ;-)

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Below is a scene local to me, illuminated yesterday by the warm light of a sinking autumn sun. I love how such light picks out minor contours. It is posted to confirm that Duncan's Mendips in the distant background, have returned to their normal colour! Dunno whether to call this one "Sheep may safely graze" or "How green was my valley".

Pete - thats a nice shot. "Pastures Green" may be a good title :)
 
Nothing compared with those stunning firework shots. Wish my first attempts at anything were nearly so good.

Would you care to elaborate re settings, and just as importantly, any tips on timing/anticipating the shots knowing what the shutter speed will be?

Pete
 
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1/25 - F2.5 - Iso 100 - handheld

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1/6 - F2 - Iso 100 - handheld

taken at Heaton park Manchester on Bonfire night

Daz
 
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Thanks Pete :)

All shot in manual - ISO 100 and 200 - shutter speeds ranging from 2 seconds through to 20 seconds - f8 through to f11.

Anticipating the explosions was simple to be honest - they had music and the show was choreographed so I just worked with the music anticipating when a large collection of fireworks would explode at similar times.

Lessons learned – next year I’ll get closer to the fireworks. I wanted to shoot from a distance to capture a wider view with the iconic Palace BBC tower in some of the shots. Will also be able to try wider aperture if closer to the action.
 
Cheers Duncan :D

To be honest 30 minute show flies past and you don't squeeze many 30 second shot's (takes roughly the same time again to process them in camera) with experimentation into that time frame. Next year I'll visit a number of fireworks events over a few days so I can experiment further. I know NY eve is coming up but I doubt I'll be in a sober enough state to handle a camera.
 
Hey Darren - I didn't even think of shooting the rides at the firework display! I had an attempt at that earlier this year at Oktoberfest though - neon lights are always fun to experiment with.

Do you have any firework shots you will post?
 
Blimey!
Souldeeps first firework shot is a cracker.
Don't care what camera that used, it is well composed and well taken.

I’ll second that.

Souldeep, April 2003, I bought my first digital camera from a proper well-informed Jessops, yes I know what they are like now. The camera was a Nikon “COOLPIX 5700”, I asked the question why “COOLPIX”?, the manager who had worked in photography shops around Wolverhampton, and lectured at local clubs for years explained how the chips got warm and Nikon had utilized the name as a selling point.
Is it a problem or not today? maybe a techy will come up with an answer.
 
Souldeep your head must already be big enough :p

BUT

I absolutely love your firework shots :clap:
 
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