The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

souldeep said:
Hi Duncan - an example of what I am trying to achieve http://snapsort.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2011/11/water.jpg

I will need to trawl through the thread to find the shot example I was thinking of. Have to run off to photo class now though.
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Was it this one?
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DuncanDisorderly said:
Last one with the cake is wonderful!

Please describe how you were focussing with the X10.
What were you getting in the missed focus shots?

X10.
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Thanks,

I was using af-s with continuous + shooting selected. I also had face detection on shooting wide open in aperture priority with auto iso1600
 
jamin100 said:
Thinking of selling the X10 :(

It was my lads birthday last night and I took a few snaps of him opening his presents, blowing the candles out etc..

However, im not totally happy with the results. I feel that the images should be sharper than what they are and im struggling with the focus to be honest. probably 50% of the shots i'd missed focus.
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Yes, I've fund similar. In every other respect I'm exceedingly impressed by the X10, but the focus in dynamic situations seems to be the Achilles heel.

I guess it's a case of either you live with - and work around - its limitations in this area, or try something else that probably has better focus performance but is worse in other respects. :D
 
Just got my X10 today. I say "my" - of course I bought it for my better half, but ... I bet I'll use it more than she does ;)

Beautiful little thing, weightier than I expected and feels more solid too. I don't know what I was expecting, but it is better built than I imagined. Only took a few shots indoors with the flash, as the weather is miserable here atm. I also got a new 70-200 lens for my own cam and not had the chance to get out with that either. Hope to test both outdoors in the morning. It'll be interesting to see how this super macro compares to my actual macro lens.

Must try the video on the X10 too. I don't see anyone here upping any samples of that, or I may have missed them when flicking through the thread? But that is one of the main features herself will use, to video the kids.
 
Cagey75 said:
Must try the video on the X10 too. I don't see anyone here upping any samples of that, or I may have missed them when flicking through the thread? But that is one of the main features herself will use, to video the kids.
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It does video, but it's not one of the strengths.
If it does the job - great.
But it ain't no 5DII for video.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Was it this one?
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No but wow! That's an absolutely cracking shot Duncan :love:

It was a slowish brown river, with leaves above it in tight crop, and a leaf caught in an eddy. Just got in so will sort tea then look through.

Great shot mate :-)

PS Course was about studio lighting tonight. Came to my turn and the studio flashes wouldn't fire *blush* Had a look around around menu settings and found you need to enable external flash in the options. Phew! I am the only compact on the course and the lecturer keeps saying beginning of each lesson - "great, luckily everyone on this course has DSLR's" - and then I have to remind I don't. Oh well - I'll show 'em ;-)
 
Brian_A said:
Yes, I've fund similar. In every other respect I'm exceedingly impressed by the X10, but the focus in dynamic situations seems to be the Achilles heel.

I guess it's a case of either you live with - and work around - its limitations in this area, or try something else that probably has better focus performance but is worse in other respects. :D
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Try manual and AEL. Was using it a lot tonight in very dynamic situation and had no focus issues :-)
 
I've been considering parting with my X10 but only because there have been quite a few situations when I've found myself wishing it had a wider-angle lens. However, it occurred to me that it should be possible to screw an after-market adapter onto the front. :)

Has anyone bought one yet or have any recommendations as to what to get?
Cheers,
Si
 
souldeep said:
No but wow! That's an absolutely cracking shot Duncan :love:

It was a slowish brown river, with leaves above it in tight crop, and a leaf caught in an eddy. Just got in so will sort tea then look through.

Great shot mate :-)

PS Course was about studio lighting tonight. Came to my turn and the studio flashes wouldn't fire *blush* Had a look around around menu settings and found you need to enable external flash in the options. Phew! I am the only compact on the course and the lecturer keeps saying beginning of each lesson - "great, luckily everyone on this course has DSLR's" - and then I have to remind I don't. Oh well - I'll show 'em ;-)
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Ta :D

As for the course and non-DSLRs; time to remind you about last November when I killed my 5DII and the X10 was my main camera for a while.
I went on two TP meets and got my leg pulled big time.
But the X10 didn't let me down.
My standard war cry for a while was "Don't Dis Da Fuji, Man!".

But don't let them sucker you into a Bulb mode shootout - that will be tricky (but not impossible).
 
Spiritflier said:
I've been considering parting with my X10 but only because there have been quite a few situations when I've found myself wishing it had a wider-angle lens. However, it occurred to me that it should be possible to screw an after-market adapter onto the front. :)

Has anyone bought one yet or have any recommendations as to what to get?
Cheers,
Si
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Hmmm - my 2p is try before you sell up.
My old LX3 had a genuine 24mm, but I was never happy with the wide angle distortion it produced.
I much prefer the Fuji's natural looking 28mm plus the odd panorama when needed.

As for a wide angle adapter :thinking:
Gotta be worth a go!
 
Oh, I won't be getting rid of it Duncan... It's too good a camera to ditch just because of one little issue and the panorama mode more than makes up for it! :)

See you in a couple of weeks,
Si
 
Wow - I went boss eyed by page 42 so on a break! Amazing going back through this thread though. Duncan you have posted some amazing shots over the past year as has Si, UrdyGurdy, Ed and many others :-)
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Ta :D

As for the course and non-DSLRs; time to remind you about last November when I killed my 5DII and the X10 was my main camera for a while.
I went on two TP meets and got my leg pulled big time.
But the X10 didn't let me down.
My standard war cry for a while was "Don't Dis Da Fuji, Man!".

But don't let them sucker you into a Bulb mode shootout - that will be tricky (but not impossible).
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Hehe - I've committed your war cry to memory.

Bulb face off will be interesting on the night star shoot. Locked cable release and the star trails package you recommended will be my secret weapon ;-)

Talking of which - Saturday I moseyed on down to Greenwich observatory to look at this years photographic astronomy awards. Some very inspirational stuff there and the exhibition is free so recommend it to anyone finding themselves in the area :-)
 
INteresting comments about the focusing. Tried it in a few lower light situations today and it seemed to work very well on AF-C and AF-S, but it was nothing specific - then again, if I want quick focusing in low light while people move around alot, that is what a D700 with a 50mm f1.4 is for I guess. Will try the fuji though, see how it gets on.

Meanwhile, I tried shooting in jpg today, these have been straightened, cropped and resized, but little else, certainly no sharpening or anything.

1 - a macro test


DSCF0388 by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr

2 - a none macro close up


DSCF0441 by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr

3 - scenery... this possibly is a little soft, but nothing some sharpening wouldn't sort?


DSCF0394 by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr

4 - finally, more landscape, but of an architectural nature, which is much more my kind of thing.


DSCF0371 by Yvonne White - WhiteGoldImages, on Flickr
 
I was messing about with our tonight, just shooting random things around the house. I found it would refuse to lock on at times, even though I knew I was far back enough to achieve focus. I also found AF-S to be quicker than AF-C, maybe in C it over 'thinks' about focus? I don'tknow, further testing needed. This was all in poor kitchen light. And as Yv says, we have dslr + fast lenses for those situations. But ... what about on hols when this is all you have on you maybe?
 
I guess its like Duncan said earlier, you have to remember that however good it is, it IS still a compact camera and will have greater limitations than your top range DSLR and pro-lenses. Read this thread, get out there and shoot, find its limitations and work with in them ;)
 
Of course ;) I started out using compacts & bridge cams. Maybe I've been too spoiled lately? But this little cam does feel very nice, and I found I was rooting for little things to shoot, not having to do a 'set up' like I would with the dslr + macro lens. It was nice to just walk around the house, shoot this and that, no weight, no fuss ...

I did find that it performs very nice at higher ISO levels. I was surprised really. Clean to 1000 and not bad at all beyond. I will definitely take this out soon as the bloody rain stops!
 
souldeep said:
Bulb face off will be interesting on the night star shoot. Locked cable release and the star trails package you recommended will be my secret weapon ;-)
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If you are needing to shoot stars then practice in private first!
The X10 has some odd limitations when doing seriously long exposures, and you need to know what they are. Best I could do was 30s at ISO 100.
My advice would be to live with the underexposed images and use the RAW's shadow recovery ability to make the stars visible.
 
Yv said:
Meanwhile, I tried shooting in jpg today, these have been straightened, cropped and resized, but little else, certainly no sharpening or anything.
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Nice set! Looks like the rest of us are going to have to concentrate to keep up!

Have you played with panorama yet?
You may find it is so good you end up carrying the X10 on paid jobs just so you can if you want to :)
 
Yv said:
INteresting comments about the focusing. Tried it in a few lower light situations today and it seemed to work very well on AF-C and AF-S, but it was nothing specific - then again, if I want quick focusing in low light while people move around alot, that is what a D700 with a 50mm f1.4 is for I guess. Will try the fuji though, see how it gets on.

Meanwhile, I tried shooting in jpg today, these have been straightened, cropped and resized, but little else, certainly no sharpening or anything.

1 - a macro test
2 - a none macro close up
3 - scenery... this possibly is a little soft, but nothing some sharpening wouldn't sort?
4 - finally, more landscape, but of an architectural nature, which is much more my kind of thing.
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Hi Yvonne :wave:

Good to see you are making really good use of MY old X10 :thumbs:

I am jealous but may put a one or two pics up (taken by MY old X10 before I let it go to you :p

Keep them coming :clap:

PS Still haven't bought a replacement :shake: & am back to trawling all the reviews.

PPS Am I still allowed to post on this thread as I have sold my X10 to Yv but still enjoy reading it. Perhaps Duncan wont let me :nuts:
 
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DuncanDisorderly said:
If you are needing to shoot stars then practice in private first!
The X10 has some odd limitations when doing seriously long exposures, and you need to know what they are. Best I could do was 30s at ISO 100.
My advice would be to live with the underexposed images and use the RAW's shadow recovery ability to make the stars visible.
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I would try a higher iso ( 800+) and 20-30 second bursts. If you have software to stack the pictures you should see nice trails.
Be aware though that on a cold night, you are likely to get dew on the lens after the camera has been out for a while. A long lens hood ( home made out of cardboard?) will delay this happening.
Also, long exposure noise reduction will do strange things to star trails, they could end up like a dotted line instead of a smooth line.

Allan
 
DayDreamer said:
PS Still haven't bought a replacement :shake: & am back to trawling all the reviews.

PPS Am I still allowed to post on this thread as I have sold my X10 to Yv but still enjoy reading it. Perhaps Duncan wont let me :nuts:
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Tis fine by me :)
Do let us know what you move onto, and why.

There's going to come a point where the X10 is beaten at it's own game, but I don't think that's happened yet.
The industry focus seems to be on vastly more expensive mid-size cameras that are only pocketable if a pancake lens is fitted, but the odd X10 challenger seems to be slipping through.
When the challengers prices drop to match the X10, then the X10 will finally have some competition!
 
I think the closest match for it is the Sony Rx100 - which has a larger sensor, and gets good reviews in general. The price is the deciding factor for most, was for me. I got a great deal I feel, at £250, inc a leather case and spare battery with some filters and adapters. The Rx100, even used, was going to be a good chunk more than that.
 
allanm said:
I would try a higher iso ( 800+) and 20-30 second bursts. If you have software to stack the pictures you should see nice trails.
Be aware though that on a cold night, you are likely to get dew on the lens after the camera has been out for a while. A long lens hood ( home made out of cardboard?) will delay this happening.
Also, long exposure noise reduction will do strange things to star trails, they could end up like a dotted line instead of a smooth line.

Allan
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Thanks for sharing this Alan.

Do you have an example you have created yourself that you could post?

Is it definitely the noise reduction creating dotted, rather than smooth lines? The reason I say this is that I have noticed it takes almost the same amount of time to process a 30 second exposure than it does to take it. This means that if I have the shutter locked down there is a delay between of the processing time between each 30 second exposure thus causing the dotted effect you mention.
 
Took it for a walk over to the school to collect my daughter. We found some mushrooms on the way home just outside our estate :)


FujiX10 by Cagey75, on Flickr


Black mushy by Cagey75, on Flickr


Funghi by Cagey75, on Flickr


DSCF2183 by Cagey75, on Flickr


The big giant by Cagey75, on Flickr

All Jpeg shot, minor adjustments in LR4. I found I had to pull highlights back almost to zero on all of them. Other than that, a lift of shadows and a bump of contrast, nothing more really. The close up of the white mushrooms were sharpened a little. Bar the B&W [f/2] the rest were shot between f/3.6 and f/4.5, exif available for each on flickr.
 
Ed Sutton said:
I wasn't catching anything this morning. So...

FF @ f4.5
FF @ f16
X10 @ f4.5
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Ah...
Where's the focus point in the X10 shot?
I suspect it is the water in the centre of the frame as the writing on the rod looks ever so slightly soft compared to the rest of the image.
Can you have a look at the originals at 100% and check - ta.

Nice test - but not sure is quite there.
Also - it would probably be be easier to take f2 on the X10 and f8 on the full frame as the DoF will be easier to spot.
 
souldeep said:
Thanks for sharing this Alan.

Do you have an example you have created yourself that you could post?

Is it definitely the noise reduction creating dotted, rather than smooth lines? The reason I say this is that I have noticed it takes almost the same amount of time to process a 30 second exposure than it does to take it. This means that if I have the shutter locked down there is a delay between of the processing time between each 30 second exposure thus causing the dotted effect you mention.
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Long exposures with noise reduction will double the exposure time like you say. 30s exposure + 30 sec NR and the dotted line effect will be seen as between each shot you are leaving a similar time gap.
Better to have lots of shorter exposures with no noise reduction.
Also, with NR turned of, the sensor is going to start getting hot after a few long exposures and that in itself will introduce noise.

Its all a bit of trial and error.

I dont have any images that might show these effects, all my astro shots were taken using a computer controlled mount that followed the subjects.

Allan
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Ah...
Where's the focus point in the X10 shot?
I suspect it is the water in the centre of the frame as the writing on the rod looks ever so slightly soft compared to the rest of the image.
Can you have a look at the originals at 100% and check - ta.
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The leaves behind the rod appear to be sharp.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Blimey - they came out nicely :thumbs:
Gonna have to get out and look for some myself!
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Lucky with the weather today, it's like a good spring day here. Those are the first mushrooms I've seen. I'll be off out on the bike later through a wooded area, hopefully will see more. Will stick the F10 in the bag ;)
 
I just received this Samsonite case after seeing someone mention it on this thread. It's a real bargain for £6, a good fit for the X10 and with a little space for a battery/memory card, plus it has a decent enough shoulder strap and a rain cover which tucks away. As a bonus it doesn't look as tacky as it does in the Amazon photo (it isn't as shiny as they make it appear).
 
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The23rdman said:
Just having a quick play...
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LOL - wonderful :D:D:D

TravelSnapper said:
I just received this Samsonite case after seeing someone mention it on this thread. It's a real bargain for £6, a good fit for the X10 and with a little space for a battery/memory card, plus it has a decent enough shoulder strap and a rain cover which tucks away. As a bonus it doesn't look as tacky as it does in the Amazon photo (it isn't as shiny as they make it appear)
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Added to the list of cases in post #1 :)
 
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I though this cam was pretty discreet until i took this in Liverpool yesterday with the trusty x10............ SPOTTED Lol
 
urdygurdy said:
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I though this cam was pretty discreet until i took this in Liverpool yesterday with the trusty x10............ SPOTTED Lol
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:eek: becuase you were highlighted by all that colour!!!

Love the shot though - quality colours and choice of subject on a grey day.
 
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