The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

travellingcello said:
Incredible photos Souldeep - I would never have guessed they were from a camera which would be classified as a compact in most eyes.

Do you use the optical vf or use the screen most often?
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Thank you kindly travellingcello.

The way I look at it - it's all about sensor size. So many people I speak to go on about megapixel which to be honest is usually a red herring above 10mp anyway. Its a great little compact with one hellova big sensor heart. I can just snap away to my hearts content whilst trying my best to push the little lady to her limits. I have started finding those limits now - but as I'm no pro I'm not going to stress over it. One thing I do recommend though is getting the new sensor. I'm about to send her off for a heart replacement but considering I'll be off to tokyo - neon night shot city I don't feel I have much choice left. If you are not going to shoot night shots or lots of shiny objects then you won't have to worry about the swap.

I use the OVF when I'm street shooting but tend to use the screen when I have a bit more time to compose shots.
 
souldeep said:
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Loving this one my friend... Very atmospheric! :)
 
A couple from the Olympic closing ceremony, only took the Fuji but really pleased with the results all things considered. I'm sure I enjoyed it more for not taking my SLR.

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Matt-P said:
A couple from the Olympic closing ceremony, only took the Fuji but really pleased with the results all things considered. I'm sure I enjoyed it more for not taking my SLR.
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I've been wondering everytime I see this.... What the hell is that helter skelter looking structure?

Edit: great photos by the way! :-)
 
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Nice shots Matt :-) I didn't make the opening or closing cermony but did go to number of events. I'll be postings the Olympic shots at some point. Got some nice Neon shots of the tower.

Colin - It's an observation tower. You can pay to go up and get a great view of the Olympic park in Stratford.

Si - thanks. It was certainly an atmospheric vista.
 
souldeep said:
Nice shots Matt :-) I didn't make the opening or closing cermony but did go to number of events. I'll be postings the Olympic shots at some point. Got some nice Neon shots of the tower.

Colin - It's an observation tower. You can pay to go up and get a great view of the Olympic park in Stratford.

Si - thanks. It was certainly an atmospheric vista.
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Thanks for the explanation. :-)
 
Riz said:
Had a play with one yesterday in jessops. Looks nice, viewfinder is a bit strange. I think I'll order one!
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Theres a 4 month old one in classifieds!
 
Mine just arrived in the post this morning,battery currently on charge then i'll be off out to test it out.
I'll be looking back through the whole thread for some tips...
 
Can anyone offer any advice on using the Panorama function?

I have tried on a few occasions without a great deal of success. For example, I very often get the "Panorama interrupted, shoot more slowly" or "Panorama stopped, shoot straighter" messages come up. These seem to appear regardless of my technique or whether I am using a tripod or shooting handheld.

When I do manage to get a complete Panorama, I am never satisfied with the end result somehow.

I realise that in order to perfect the technique, it will take some practice, the same as anything, but I'm just concerned that I may be doing something fundamentally wrong.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

Neil.
 
Neiltluck said:
Can anyone offer any advice on using the Panorama function?

I have tried on a few occasions without a great deal of success. For example, I very often get the "Panorama interrupted, shoot more slowly" or "Panorama stopped, shoot straighter" messages come up. These seem to appear regardless of my technique or whether I am using a tripod or shooting handheld.

When I do manage to get a complete Panorama, I am never satisfied with the end result somehow.

I realise that in order to perfect the technique, it will take some practice, the same as anything, but I'm just concerned that I may be doing something fundamentally wrong.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

Neil.
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Hi Neil

It's hard to say without actually watching you but make sure that;

1) You pan in the direction of the arrow line that you've chosen
2) 180 degrees should take about 7 to 10 seconds to pan
3) The pan bar is at least 80% complete. You can set 180 or 360 degrees pan in the menu
4) You keep as tight as possible to the horizontal guide line as you pan. If you go too far off it will stop the function
 
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adam* said:
Any proper rumours on an X10 replacement, timeframe etc?
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Would that mean there would need to be an X11 thread? :thinking:
Or this one changed to X series? Like the Panasonic G series thread? :clap:
Duncan, our leader :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:, would have to buy a new X11 if if he were to guide the X11 users thread - Duncan could you oblige?

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Hehe - John the X10 is hard to beat. I don't think an X11 will be around for at least a year yet. Now with the sensor issue sorted I imagine the X10 will be a good little seller for Fuji and they will run it for a while.
 
Neiltluck said:
Can anyone offer any advice on using the Panorama function?

I have tried on a few occasions without a great deal of success. For example, I very often get the "Panorama interrupted, shoot more slowly" or "Panorama stopped, shoot straighter" messages come up. These seem to appear regardless of my technique or whether I am using a tripod or shooting handheld.

When I do manage to get a complete Panorama, I am never satisfied with the end result somehow.

I realise that in order to perfect the technique, it will take some practice, the same as anything, but I'm just concerned that I may be doing something fundamentally wrong.

Any help or advice would be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

Neil.
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Souldeep is right. However, I'd suggest setting it to the 120 degree shot, which IMHO makes a more believable pano and is easier to achieve (for example, light levels are a tad more likely to be consistent in the shorter pano). After some practice with that, try the others (if you need to).
 
Just throwing an idea out there - but an X10 meet up?

I know we are spread all over the UK but I would be happy to sort the logistics around a London X10 meetup... in fact how about an X10 pub crawl... no second thoughts - could be some lonely X10's at the end of the night hehe. We'll go with something a bit tamer - X10 street shoot ending with a civilized pub session :-)
 
ChrisR said:
Souldeep is right. However, I'd suggest setting it to the 120 degree shot, which IMHO makes a more believable pano and is easier to achieve (for example, light levels are a tad more likely to be consistent in the shorter pano). After some practice with that, try the others (if you need to).
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Absolutely agree about the 120. Looking back at the good pano's in this thread I see the ones that don't have blown highlights are pretty much all 120's. I guess you can be quite consistent light wise with the sun behind you and a 120 pan.
 
DayDreamer said:
Would that mean there would need to be an X11 thread? :thinking:
Or this one changed to X series? Like the Panasonic G series thread? :clap:
Duncan, our leader :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:, would have to buy a new X11 if if he were to guide the X11 users thread - Duncan could you oblige?

:clap::clap::clap::clap:
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LOL - as an early X10 user I took a big financial hit; someone else's turn with the X11!

Seriously though - I'm not feeling the need!
The X10 is producing images plenty good enough for printing to A3 (a landscape from the X10 is in my ARPS panel being submitted in Oct).
The new sensor should make it even better for concerts/festivals and sunsets.
I love the size and looks.
Battery life is good enough that I rarely need to change to the spare.
Slightly faster AF would be nice, but it's not worth upgrading for!

I don't treat my X10 with kid gloves, it gets abused.
Right now if I killed my X10, I'd go straight out and get another;
That's probably how I'll end up getting an X11 :D:D:D

Difficult to predict what the competition will come up with in the mean time, but the current alternatives aren't doing it for me (but they are getting closer).
 
souldeep said:
Absolutely agree about the 120. Looking back at the good pano's in this thread I see the ones that don't have blown highlights are pretty much all 120's. I guess you can be quite consistent light wise with the sun behind you and a 120 pan.
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Thanks for the tips Gents, I appreciate it.

I think I am expecting too much too soon. I just need to get out there and practice. I have to say that I agree that the 120 degree version should be more believable and consistent.

Thanks again guys.

I will get in some practice over the coming weeks as I am off to the States on holiday at the beginning of September.

It would be good to have another photographic skill up my sleeve for this trip.

Will post some results soon.

Cheers

Neil
 
souldeep said:
Just throwing an idea out there - but an X10 meet up?

I know we are spread all over the UK but I would be happy to sort the logistics around a London X10 meetup... in fact how about an X10 pub crawl... no second thoughts - could be some lonely X10's at the end of the night hehe. We'll go with something a bit tamer - X10 street shoot ending with a civilized pub session :-)
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I like the idea!
Trouble with London is that it is a royal PITA for non-Londoners living out in the boons!
I know Bristol has loads of similar attractions (docks, pubs, etc) plus excellent parking, rail and bus - probably other similar options out there?
It did occur to me a while ago that LindsayD's Chalk Pit Museum would be great for a meet; but since she's been having a mare from the anti-Fuji activists it would be probably just asking for trouble. Shame :(
Be interesting to see if this topic gets any legs!!!!
 
Neiltluck said:
I realise that in order to perfect the technique, it will take some practice, the same as anything, but I'm just concerned that I may be doing something fundamentally wrong.
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You're probably sweeping too slowly. That was where I went wrong at first. Listen to the shutter firing to give you a clue as to speed required.
 
Neiltluck said:
Thanks for the tips Gents, I appreciate it.

I think I am expecting too much too soon. I just need to get out there and practice. I have to say that I agree that the 120 degree version should be more believable and consistent.

Thanks again guys.

I will get in some practice over the coming weeks as I am off to the States on holiday at the beginning of September.

It would be good to have another photographic skill up my sleeve for this trip.

Will post some results soon.

Cheers

Neil
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Neil, it would be good to see some results. There have been some good panos in this thread (especially that brilliant one by souldeep). However, I've just reviewed a few of mine, including some taken during the Holy Land trip. On that journey, you could hardly avoid getting a good shot from the X10 no matter where or how you pointed it; the light and colours were fantastic. But the panos I did were the exception. I was hoping they'd capture something of the sheer breadth of the desert landscape at Qumran, for example, or the range and height of the hills round Masada. But, compared with other shots, the landscape is flatter and more featureless, and even the colour seems muted. They are, in a word or two, dull failures!

I suspect that there's a very special art to composing panos that is quite different from shapes shots (ok, of course, d'oh!). Maybe you need some quite strong verticals in there to balance out the length and shallowness? I wonder if souldeep could comment?

On another more technical issue, don't forget that turning your X10 sideways and sweeping it across horizontally (ie as if vertically from the camera's view) will give you more pixels in the end result. But I haven't tried this!
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
I like the idea!
Trouble with London is that it is a royal PITA for non-Londoners living out in the boons!
I know Bristol has loads of similar attractions (docks, pubs, etc) plus excellent parking, rail and bus - probably other similar options out there?
It did occur to me a while ago that LindsayD's Chalk Pit Museum would be great for a meet; but since she's been having a mare from the anti-Fuji activists it would be probably just asking for trouble. Shame :(
Be interesting to see if this topic gets any legs!!!!
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Easier to get to than Bristol? And definitely easier to get to than Sussex! I am up for any of the locations though :-)

Perhaps the idea could expand to specialise in different aspects of the X10 e.g. Duncan sharing his expertise in a landscape X10 session in a good national park or Si helping with an X10 portrait workshop and I'd be happy to help organise an X10 street session in London. By the way this is really on a suggestion so I hope I don’t offend anybody. I don’t want to start putting up people’s names into the frame and I am certainly not suggesting I am a better street photographer than anyone else – far from it - I want to learn with others – but suggested my name as I could be a half decent guide round London as it’s my manor ;-)

Duncan – I only ever visit this thread on the site. Is there a way to attach a poll to this thread in which we could suggest a few ideas and gauge peoples reactions?
 
ChrisR said:
Neil, it would be good to see some results. There have been some good panos in this thread (especially that brilliant one by souldeep). However, I've just reviewed a few of mine, including some taken during the Holy Land trip. On that journey, you could hardly avoid getting a good shot from the X10 no matter where or how you pointed it; the light and colours were fantastic. But the panos I did were the exception. I was hoping they'd capture something of the sheer breadth of the desert landscape at Qumran, for example, or the range and height of the hills round Masada. But, compared with other shots, the landscape is flatter and more featureless, and even the colour seems muted. They are, in a word or two, dull failures!

I suspect that there's a very special art to composing panos that is quite different from shapes shots (ok, of course, d'oh!). Maybe you need some quite strong verticals in there to balance out the length and shallowness? I wonder if souldeep could comment?

On another more technical issue, don't forget that turning your X10 sideways and sweeping it across horizontally (ie as if vertically from the camera's view) will give you more pixels in the end result. But I haven't tried this!
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Hi Chris - thanks for the props but I'm always asking how I can improve mine. I think you give me too much credit but I don’t like to disappoint so this is what I get up to in my pano’s …

1) Your point about turning the camera sideways is important towards the end result. In all my pano's I use that technique.

2) I also tend to look for a scene that will lead the eye in some way in the centre of the shot (e.g. the Wales pano posted around April with the path and the coast).

3) Contrast is another thing I look for. That may be something that was hard to find in your bright desert scene?

4) Finally I look for a broken horizon when I'm thinking pano shot, and try my best to get as much of what is under my feet, rather than what is in the sky, into the pano. The exception would be when you have a great moody sky - but then I get the issue with blown highlights (I have created a pano with an ND grad back in the Hungry set I posted a month back or so).

5) I'm flukey ;-)

Hope that helps in some way :-)

PS talking of pano's I'm in the process of getting my Dubrovnik photos up. I have a double rainbow pano that kind of breaks some of the rules and the vista isn't the best becuase the rainbow suddenly appeared so I screamed "pull over" and took a few shots. Will post when they are up.
 
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Talking of panoramas, what is the best way to upload them for effect? Saving to within the confines of Tp’s size limits gives more of a letterbox view, as with this resent Cornwall (Tintagel) view. It’s two 160s overlapped by about a third , I find sweeping more than that difficult for my old and decrepit hands and back, ha ha.

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Great thread! Personally I love my X10. I've had three now. This time I'm keeping it! Just had sensor replaced and all seems fine. No orbs as I had before I sent it back to Fuji. I'm only shooting RAW with it but have experimented with JPG up to ISO400. Colours from the X10 (and the X100) are utterly gorgeous. RAW coupled with LR yields wonderful results and I agree with a previous poster who said that RAW processing is often quicker / easier than working with JPGs. Any opinions on new sensor from other users? Mine seems less noisy at ISO800 in RAW but it might just be my imagination!? Best... Rob. www.facebook.com/roblowephotography
 
rob.lowe.photo said:
Great thread! Personally I love my X10. I've had three now. This time I'm keeping it! Just had sensor replaced and all seems fine. No orbs as I had before I sent it back to Fuji. I'm only shooting RAW with it but have experimented with JPG up to ISO400. Colours from the X10 (and the X100) are utterly gorgeous. RAW coupled with LR yields wonderful results and I agree with a previous poster who said that RAW processing is often quicker / easier than working with JPGs. Any opinions on new sensor from other users? Mine seems less noisy at ISO800 in RAW but it might just be my imagination!? Best... Rob. www.facebook.com/roblowephotography
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Hey, welcome aboard, Rob! I trust you've read and memorised all the past 100+ pages of posts? We only answer new questions here...

Just kidding. This thread is bonkers huge. If there's anything to ask, just ask. But being on your third X10, you probably know more than most of us already! You clearly know much more about Raw than me, for example (but on my side that may stem partly from having a Mac and Aperture but not Lightroom or Photoshop...). I've not tried Raw since getting the software upgrade, but in between the ensor change and the software upgrade my single attempt at Raw (using the indirect route via DNG) was terrible...
 
Rhodese said:
Talking of panoramas, what is the best way to upload them for effect? Saving to within the confines of Tp’s size limits gives more of a letterbox view, as with this resent Cornwall (Tintagel) view. It’s two 160s overlapped by about a third , I find sweeping more than that difficult for my old and decrepit hands and back, ha ha.

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Looks good to me :-) I like the way the horizon line is 35% cliff top field then drops away for the sea to continue on the other 65%.

Yes they do look like letterbox sized images.

Your Cornish pano reminded me - I never posted any pano's from Cornwall becuase I didn't really think any were stand out great but I'll post a few as we are on the subject.
 
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@chrisR: I did wonder if I'd missed a page or two :0/ In LR, I haven't seen a need for Dng since update (3.6) reads the X10 raw files. I'll try not to change topic or duplicate in future replies / posts. But yes, this thread is massive... Thanks Chris! R.
 
Here are the pano's I took in Cornwall. Not the best and blown highlights in places but happy to share as we are on the subject...

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Bit of a personal issue at the moment. I sent my X10 back to Fuji for a sensor change but they had a problem with it so sent a replacement...which looked like it had been used for batting practice. So they refunded my money. Fuji customer service has to be the best around IMO despite them having a problem with mine. Thing is...I miss my X10 for all the reasons this thread covers but am being tempted by the dark side...Sony RX100 and the Panasonic LX7 due out soon.

More money but both get great reviews and the LX has that ND filter built in........

But my heart..and part of my brain says the X10 is not only great value for money with great colours and a joy to handle that the real world difference is minimal and not worth the big extra bucks for the others. The high end compact market is beginning to heat up.....
 
@topgazza: I feel your pain! My X10 took almost three weeks to come back after sending away for sensor replacement but I have to agree with you about Fuji Service Centre; very quick to answer queries and extremely professional. Saying that though, Mine came back with a number of scratches on the lens cap (camera was only a fortnight old) and the hotshoe was very slightly off kilter on one side, but barely a problem. But... these are minor niggles for me and hardly an issue mainly because the images it yields are really rather lovely. I understand how it feels to not have the camera you really want though. My love was for the X100 but three successive cameras had the sticky aperture blades and one of those had a sticking shutter curtain also, which was interesting. My heart says X100 - but I won't fork out for one again. Now the Xpro 1... I'd love but my pockets aren't that deep. The rx100 is indeed an interesting camera on paper - you must let us know if you decide to go with it and post your thoughts! I could just be tempted by the darkside! R.
 
rob.lowe.photo said:
@chrisR: I did wonder if I'd missed a page or two :0/ In LR, I haven't seen a need for Dng since update (3.6) reads the X10 raw files. I'll try not to change topic or duplicate in future replies / posts. But yes, this thread is massive... Thanks Chris! R.
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Rob, don't worry, we all ask questions that have been asked before; it's not possible to remember it all. And people here are really friendly, even if they sometimes have a strange sense of humour!

If you've got LR you don't need the DNG route. Sadly Apple have not yet seen fit to offer Raw support for the X10. It's done in the OS, so neither Aperture nor iPhoto have it. I found a workaround by downloading Adobe DNG converter, which includes ACR in some crippled mode. So I convert X10 Raws to DNG, and then I can load them into Aperture and they get recognised as Raw files. However, there are no (zero, nada) X10-specific Raw tweaks (AFAICS), and the results I've had so far have been rubbish, with extraordinary levels of noise. So I'm sticking with JPEG only unless there is something that I really think might be worth heroic efforts...

I thought of buying LR but moving some 10K photos from Aperture to LR would be a total nightmare, and would mean "locking in" existing edits. So it's the absolute last resort...
 
Chris, Souldeep, thank you both for your informative responses re the Panoramas.

I need to go out and practice, practice, practice I think, taking on board your tips and tricks.

I had heard about the idea of turning the camera through 90 degrees to get better resolution (probably in this thread somewhere, I'm sure), but never tried it out.

It is a feature of the camera that I have only just begun to explore, so I have alot to learn, but I would like to at least understand the principles before my trip stateside.

We will be driving up the East Coast from Boston to Charlottetown in Canada, so there will be ample opportunity to capture some stunning vistas.

Fingers crossed some of them come out!
 
Well, after its 3rd trip to Fuji ( sensor swap then software update then faulty electronic level) , I was expecting my camera to be returned soon. Just got an email from Fuji to say they have replaced my camera, so it looks like I am getting a new one.

Mmmm, new camera smell....... :love:

Allan
 
allanm said:
Well, after its 3rd trip to Fuji ( sensor swap then software update then faulty electronic level) , I was expecting my camera to be returned soon. Just got an email from Fuji to say they have replaced my camera, so it looks like I am getting a new one.

Mmmm, new camera smell....... :love:

Allan
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I think mine has the faulty electronic level aswell and it went back to fuji yesterday.

I noticed that I just couldn't do panoramas whilst on holiday a few weeks ago where as I've been able to do them fine before.

Also most of my shots were just not straight. So I placed my camera on a level surface with a spirit level and it was clear from the results that the camera was a few degrees out, which I'm now guessing is why I couldn't do any panoramas
 
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