The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

If you have face detection enabled, then you only get the multi option and cant move the focus point. These appear to be your symptoms.
Allan
 
allanm said:
If you have face detection enabled, then you only get the multi option and cant move the focus point. These appear to be your symptoms.
Allan
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Thanks for all the replies. Allan, your are correct thanks for the help.
 
allanm said:
So, at 35mm, I get the distance scale showing infinity till I get about 1.5 m away then it starts moving in, not accurate at all, still shows 10m about 1 m away then starts to get a little more accurate. 0.5m on the scale is quite close to the actual distance away.
At all other zoom settings, the scale shows more accuracy, but at 5m, the scale varies between 3 and 5 metres quite regularly each time I half press the shutter.

Mine came back with the artificial horizon skewed after the software fix.

Took this shot just now. Artificial horizon was showing green!

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When I pluck up the courage, I will contact Fuji to get it sent back.


I'll take some pics tomorrow showing the viewfinder accuracy, getting too dark now...

Allan
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Exactly the same as mine regards the distance scale. It seems they can not fix it in the hardware or software. But complain about it when you send it in.
On the last trip (fourth) they fixed the artificial horizon. it is a software fix mine is now spot on.

As to my view finder. I put my X10 on the table yesterday and it rolled onto its back, with a slight plonk. The view finder is now "Much better" not perfect just better... I suspect there is some thing not as tight as it should be in the viewfinder optical system. (sealed unit). Might even be moving about inside on trips back and forth to Fuji.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
Exactly the same as mine regards the distance scale. It seems they can not fix it in the hardware or software. But complain about it when you send it in.
On the last trip (fourth) they fixed the artificial horizon. it is a software fix mine is now spot on.

As to my view finder. I put my X10 on the table yesterday and it rolled onto its back, with a slight plonk. The view finder is now "Much better" not perfect just better... I suspect there is some thing not as tight as it should be in the viewfinder optical system. (sealed unit). Might even be moving about inside on trips back and forth to Fuji.
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I just emailed Fuji and told them about the distance scale too. I did notice on mine that when you take a shot and the image appears in review, it looks bright and sharp. When viewed through the playback button, it appears darker and with less resolution.
Not sure if it is just me, but I have been using my X100 a lot recently and maybe its just a difference between the two. I dont remember the playback images being any different from review images before I sent it away for the software upgrade though.
But, on a good note, images displayed on my mac now are really noise free, a big difference to pre software update. So, its not all bad!
Allan
 
Really cool band in town today! Trying RAW again. (Yes, I can't decide what to use yet :P) Feel free to tell me what you think could be better about any of my images, I'm always looking to learn!

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^ great colours

Had a wander around Aberdeen today - only managed a few before battery died (note to self: spare batteries are useful only when packed) - only these two really stood out. Comments gratefully received - everyday is a school day - cheers!

Quite liked the tree shadows on the headstone


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DuncanDisorderly said:
What mode are you in?
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Pages 126 to 129 in the user manual cover "Restrictions on camera settings". Boring to read but I've need to peep at them sometimes due to my confusion about what will, or will not, work with the various settings :clap:

P.S. Is the X10 waterproof and rust proof. It's absolutely 'chucking' it down here in Totnes - what an awful rainy year is 2012 not great for photographers :'(
 
DayDreamer said:
P.S. Is the X10 waterproof and rust proof. It's absolutely 'chucking' it down here in Totnes - what an awful rainy year is 2012 not great for photographers :'(
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Duncan's is. Every couple of weeks he takes it to Wales and holds it out in the rain for a few hours. Some kind of primitive West Country ritual? :naughty:
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
What the photograph shows is that the Viewfinder is including MORE to the left and LESS to the right.

It is pointing LEFT and not centrally.

If it was central equal amounts of the hatch and picture would be cut.

This is the simplest test to calculate the error from a single pair of shots.


This has nothing to do with the 85% view (a useful safety factor), or parallax, which would skew it by only 1.5 cm at 5 meters in the other direction ( but an insignificant amount)

What I am finding out, is how other peoples X10' behave under the same conditions.

Were the shot of a group of people, the right most would be cut off and there would be a gap on the left.

Perhaps yours points straight... only a test will show. that is the information I need to demonstrate.
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Terry, I tried this, and I'm not sure about the results. But they give me a possible clue (which might only mean you need to reword your test). You ask us to align the left edge of the screen with an object, and then the left edge of the viewfinder with the same object.

I think this necessarily means the camera turns sligtly to the left, to compensate for the 85% element. And that means it see less of the right and more of the left. If I'm right, if you tried this again with the right hand picture frame, you'd see opposite results.

Another test would be to hang something in the centre of that window and focus on it with in the centre of the OVF. Take a shot and see if it is still central. AFAICS it is for me...
 
I needed to go out and reduce our woodpile and found this chap when I cleared around the chopping block.
These are jpegs straight out of the camera.

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Allan
 
ChrisR said:
Terry, I tried this, and I'm not sure about the results. But they give me a possible clue (which might only mean you need to reword your test). You ask us to align the left edge of the screen with an object, and then the left edge of the viewfinder with the same object.

I think this necessarily means the camera turns sligtly to the left, to compensate for the 85% element. And that means it see less of the right and more of the left. If I'm right, if you tried this again with the right hand picture frame, you'd see opposite results.

Another test would be to hang something in the centre of that window and focus on it with in the centre of the OVF. Take a shot and see if it is still central. AFAICS it is for me...
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You are right It does slur the result to the left However I was using it as a "comparison" At a set distance and focal length.
This would show me how much the camera viewfinders vary one to another.
It is very true that a centre test is better to test an individual camera.

Probably a better way to do that is to view a flat surface from at least 4.5 meters ( under that parallax can be an issue) Chose two objects that you can see in the extreme edges of the view finder and take a picture. ( a tripod would help)

If the viewfinder was true, those two objects would be at equal distances from their respective edges. ( I have done this and in my case the left edge space was twice as wide as the right.

The problem with using the centre of the image is knowing where it is??? the viewfinder is not marked (purposely?) were it marked it. and the viewfinder accurate, it would help with placing the focus spot.
I suspect they know they have a problem, or why would they exclude such a useful feature?

I would be interested to know how your or anyones cameras stack up as to viewfinder accuracy? what ever test they chose.
 
allanm said:
I needed to go out and reduce our woodpile and found this chap when I cleared around the chopping block.
These are jpegs straight out of the camera.

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Allan
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Nice

Handsome chap... keeps the slugs down too.

I take it that the lens was wide open as there is a fair amount of selective focus. The combination of a larger than normal sensor and a wide aperture make the X10 much more useful than most "pocket" cameras, with a very "film like" result.
 
The lens was at ƒ2.5. It was quite dull down there and I wanted a low iso and to isolate the subject from the background a bit. I probably could have got away with ƒ2.8 but I quite like the shallow DOF, especially on the eye.
I was itching to pick that bit of grass off too, but he would just have jumped away.
Allan
 
Eightball said:
and nice frog (or is it a toad?!)
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I'm going to say frog, I dont think a toad has the two ridges down its back. I'm probably wrong though.....

Allan
 
Toads are Frogs.....

Toads have "Warty dry skin" Frogs have webbed feet.
 
My camera just stopped reading images from my Sandisk SDHC card, would jog to a certain image and just stop reading.. The card is only about 4 weeks old....reformatted it and it's behaving again. First time I've ever had a card fail on me. What are the chances this is a one off? Any chance it's a camera problem rather than a card problem?
 
Probably a bit of both. Its always best to reformat the card after downloading images from it.
Allan
 
Had a play with one yesterday in jessops. Looks nice, viewfinder is a bit strange. I think I'll order one!
 
Riz said:
Had a play with one yesterday in jessops. Looks nice, viewfinder is a bit strange. I think I'll order one!
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Gotta say that the viewfinder put me off for quite a while. Not used to having no information...., happy with it now I'm more used to it.
 
Humph..... :thumbsdown:
City Link rant....
Blimmin van paused outside my house this morning and drove off.
Driver didn't even get out the van, but it was logged as an attempted delivery with card left - Grrrr :bang:

And because I was away for their first delivery attempt, the only delivery options the website now offers is collection from depot or return to sender.
Cue Mr Angry ringing up their support desk.

Redelivery is now arranged for Thursday, a week after it left Fuji.
If you get the choice, tell them to use RMSD! :bat:
 
Sending my X10 off today for its software upgrade and fixing the Grip. There was no email, because they had my name and email address wrong! I was quite annoyed that they sent out the box to me with no postage at all, so I had to go in and collect it Saturday morning and pay £3.20! I have let them know...:shake:
 
I got my X10 back from Fuji for the sensor replacement today, its only been away for a couple of weeks, but i'd forgotten how nice it was.

It was raining outside so I had to test it out on my long suffering cat, who has more than had enough of being my primary model, and he expressed his distain with a massive yawn, i bore him so much.

The X10 seems ok at a quick glance, but i'm going to test it more thoroughly over the next few days, however I"m picking up a Sony RX100 tomorrow, so i'll probably be overwhelmed with new toy syndrome, so it will probably be a week or so before i check the X10 properly.

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ChrisR said:
Duncan's is. Every couple of weeks he takes it to Wales and holds it out in the rain for a few hours. Some kind of primitive West Country ritual? :naughty:
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Just been reading back, through the thread, and spotted this - I'm in the West Country, Totnes South Devon, so what you saying like :p
 
DayDreamer said:
Just been reading back, through the thread, and spotted this - I'm in the West Country, Totnes South Devon, so what you saying like :p
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Um, I think I'll stop digging now!

However, based on Duncan's advice, I did take my X10 up Snowdon and carried on taking shots in the rain and hail. Once home, took the battery out, extended the lens and left to dry. Seems fine. YMMV of course; no guarantees!!! :eek:
 
sinar said:
I got my X10 back from Fuji for the sensor replacement today, its only been away for a couple of weeks, but i'd forgotten how nice it was.

It was raining outside so I had to test it out on my long suffering cat, who has more than had enough of being my primary model, and he expressed his distain with a massive yawn, i bore him so much.

The X10 seems ok at a quick glance, but i'm going to test it more thoroughly over the next few days, however I"m picking up a Sony RX100 tomorrow, so i'll probably be overwhelmed with new toy syndrome, so it will probably be a week or so before i check the X10 properly.

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That cat has real attitude.....:cool:
 
ChrisR said:
Um, I think I'll stop digging now!

However, based on Duncan's advice, I did take my X10 up Snowdon and carried on taking shots in the rain and hail. Once home, took the battery out, extended the lens and left to dry. Seems fine. YMMV of course; no guarantees!!! :eek:
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Good Man! :clap:
That's what pocket cameras are for...

I really missed my X10.
Last Saturday I was up Cader Idris on the TP Loony Meet.
If I'd had the X10 in my top pocket I'd have been able to grab a lot of shots I was conscious of missing.
 
Managed to read the first 30 or so pages of this before deciding a needed one. Delivery in a couple of days. Needless to say I am looking forward to it!

Thanks for all the information in here from everyone!
 
dmw536 said:
Managed to read the first 30 or so pages of this before deciding a needed one. Delivery in a couple of days. Needless to say I am looking forward to it!

Thanks for all the information in here from everyone!
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I think we should all get a cut from Fuji. There must be loads of people who bought an X10 after visiting this thread.
Luckily, most TP threads are positive. I guess if you read the Fuji threads from some other forum, you wouldn't touch one with a barge pole!
You came to the right place, it's a cracking camera
Allan
 
Some shots from the holifair festival here in cornwall. My gf Couldn't get the time off work to stay for the weekend so it was a day visit but still good fun!

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I've been trying RAW again but this time using my own custom presets in lightroom. My preset sets the noise reduction and sharpening to 25, a gentle tone curve with the middle tones set to +10 and -10 respectively and the highlights and darks left alone; saturation and clarity to +10, and also to set the auto tone. I then go through each imagine and adjust the tone for the image (auto tone rarely gets it right but I prefer using this as a starting point than the un-edited image) and I also put the contrast to +30. I like contrasty images and +30 usually gets it right but I adjust as neccessary. A few of these images I also had to desaturate the blue in the sky as it looked unnatural.
Using my own preset has really, really sped up my RAW editing and makes it much more enjoyable to edit the pictures, I just set the preset on import and then go through each picture and adjust a little here and there. Its actually faster than trying to edit JPEGS for me as each JPEG required different things!

As always, critique is welcome to my methods as well as my pictures!
 
anybody know what a gift image is
there is a couple of shots on my x10 that my son took and they are showing an icon that relates to a gift image
and yes i have rtfm

my x10 thinks they were taken on another camera but they were not, they were taken prior to having the software update
 
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No one knows the extent of these software upgrades. as far as your X10 knows they might have been taken on another camera. Do they read ok on other devices.
 
Eightball said:
I should probably RTFT (thread) but can I ask a n00b question(s)?

a) how do I know if my camera has the 'old' sensor?
b) if I'm not experiencing any issues, what is the advantage of getting it replaced for 'new' sensor?

cheers!
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LOL - no such thing as a daft question!

1) If you ring Fuji asking they will tell you. There is no known way you can tell yourself other than photographing a subject likely to produce orbs. Sunshine glinting off chrome and street lights at night seem the most reliable.

2) Then don't worry! Fuji seems to be fumbling the ball with some of the returned cameras causing grief and hassle. There are quite a few users who are either holding off sending in their camera till Fuji get their act together or are not going to bother because they do not view orbs as a problem.

Edited to add - I get mine back from sensor replacement tomorrow.
I've got my fingers, arms and legs crossed everything is going to be OK with the returned camera.
 
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