The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

that could well be it now you mention it, i think i knocked it there in my pocket and i noticed that dial was on there after a load of shots. I'll try a few of the same spot tomorrow.
 
essexash said:
OK im a little worried now. These are some of the first pics ive taken post "fix" The first 2 show a couple of the last ones i took before i sent it off. All of these are Raw iso100. The amount of sheer noise on the post fix pic (hms belfast) is very worrying! im just hoping there was a default factory setting that makes your raws look like **** that i can turn off.

ive posted full sized versions in flickr. Anyone else noticed pre and post changes? Frankly raw iso100 is broken if i cant change the settings somehow it will have to go back :(

Ive just had a wade through all my old x10 raws at iso100 and that heavy coating of "mottling" simply isnt there, in fact its all pretty clean up to about 800. Gutted.

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Check the ship hull and sky around the bridge.
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On the face of it you have a lot of noise
However the settings are rather strange....
The rowers was taken at 1/140 sec at f5.6 ISO100 at +2EV
The Building was taken at 1/50 at 5.6 ISO100 at +- 0EV
The Tower bridge shot was 1/2000 sec F6.4 ISO100 at -2EV

For a rather dull scene against the light the exposure seems rather short at ISO100. the Recovery process would greatly increase the noise.

I would experiment rather more before you come to any firm conclusions.


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Terrywoodenpic said:
Any one going down the RPS awards route should under stand the long term commitment.
Awarded letters LRPS ARPS FRPS only stand as long as you keep up your membership (payments).
It is not like winning a Gold medal, that is yours to keep, unless you are offered an honary award.

Most professional bodies do the same in this respect.
I was a very early member of the MPA soon after it was formed, and it was the same with them then.
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Tell me about it - as a consequence I've got three lots of subs to pay each year. But if you shoot professionally it's worth it as the distinctions can help you to command higher prices and do mentoring work if you fancy it. For an amateur it would be a financial drain though.
 
I agree with Terry and Duncan, inappropriate settings will skew things.

However I did perceive a little more noise in the RAWs from the new sensor - a bit like they were from the original sensor before Lightroom 4.1 came along. So I'm wondering if the processing software algorithms in Lightroom (and other software) are incompatible with the output from the new sensor and need upgrading?
 
Lindsay D said:
Tell me about it - as a consequence I've got three lots of subs to pay each year. But if you shoot professionally it's worth it as the distinctions can help you to command higher prices and do mentoring work if you fancy it. For an amateur it would be a financial drain though.
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True but the subs were a tax expense... I don't know if they still are.

The MPA registered itself as a trade union to get round the "Closed Shop" in Print and Exhibitions, If you were not a member there were many places you could not even work. and no union shop would print your stuff. (that was everyone).

Many photographers also joind SOGAT or NGA for the same reason.

Interestingly employed "union" photographers could claim an outdoor clothing allowance against tax. (which of course I did)
 
Lindsay D said:
I agree with Terry and Duncan, inappropriate settings will skew things.

However I did perceive a little more noise in the RAWs from the new sensor - a bit like they were from the original sensor before Lightroom 4.1 came along. So I'm wondering if the processing software algorithms in Lightroom (and other software) are incompatible with the output from the new sensor and need upgrading?
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That sounds likely as Adobe are always miles behind on Fuji raw, I don't think they have the X pro 1 sorted yet. (Fuji sensors never use standard bayer filters. and the X10 is no different)
 
Lindsay D said:
Yes, still tax deductible thank goodness. Wow - I never knew that stuff about the MPA, scary. They don't have the gravitas they once had, that's for sure.
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Was totally different then ...To be a member you had to have run your own business or been a manager for three years. give three business and three photographic references. put in a panel of 20 large prints for each category you wanted to be included in ( mine were industrial and commercial)

After which they might accept you as a MPA member (letters MPA)
There was no LMPA
AMPA was on recognition as an outstanding photographer in your field.
FMPA was for a photographer who had obtained outstanding professional and social standing in the community and photographic world. (not many)

To day it is just another wedding tog outfit with a little portrait or commercial thrown in. Certainly no longer tough to join.
 
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allanm said:
Try phoning them.
The last email I got was that they had received the camera and would fix it soon. I phoned them and the guy put me on hold while he went to check the status of my camera. He came back saying it was done and would be posted out in a day or so. It came next day by City Link.
Worth a call?
Allan
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Callaghan said:
I received my original purchase and sensor replaced X10 via CityLink. The bag to send the camera off for repair was RMSD. I can't remember who delivered my empty packaging for some reason :shrug:
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Thanks chaps.......I'll give them a ring tomorrow:)
 
Lindsay D said:
I love what you've done in that book Dave! What a brilliant idea, and so carefully and sensitively reproduced - you should be very pleased with it.
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Thanks very much.

It was an interesting project and more difficult than I though it would be. As soon as it was done I could see things which could be better executed, but it's not bad.
 
souldeep said:
I'm starting to post to this thread so much I might get mistaken for spam so one quick post to say thanks Ed and Callaghan for your comments :)
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As far as I'm concerned (and I'm sure many others feel the same), if this is the sort of standard you're achieving, you can post as much stuff as you like. I'm no expert, but I think you have a real talent. Keep 'em coming:thumbs:
 
It looks like there was another attack on my website last night. This seems to happen whenever my x10 comments become prominent (a link to my recent pictures was put on DPR by somebody a few days ago and I was also linked in a well known review website). There are clearly some people out there in the anti-Fuji camp who have still got it in for me. Since the big fiasco in March I've tried to carry on as normal and ignore it, but it's not pleasant and it looks like I'm going to have to stop making any forum contributions. I don't know if my attacker(s) have found their way to this place. Whatever I decide to do I will still be a regular reader of this marvellous thread which I have hugely enjoyed contributing to and learning from.
 
Lindsay D said:
It looks like there was another attack on my website last night. This seems to happen whenever my x10 comments become prominent (a link to my recent pictures was put on DPR by somebody a few days ago and I was also linked in a well known review website). There are clearly some people out there in the anti-Fuji camp who have still got it in for me. Since the big fiasco in March I've tried to carry on as normal and ignore it, but it's not pleasant and it looks like I'm going to have to stop making any forum contributions. I don't know if my attacker(s) have found their way to this place. Whatever I decide to do I will still be a regular reader of this marvellous thread which I have hugely enjoyed contributing to and learning from.
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I'm really sorry to hear this Lindsay, it's a sad state of affairs when people can't express opinions and engage in civilised debate without being attacked in this way. I fully understand if you feel you have to stop posting here but I (and many others I'm sure) hope it doesn't come to that. The stuff you have posted here is awesome and I am an avid watcher of your website where I am blown away by the quality of your work. Best wishes whatever you decide to do:)
 
crusher said:
Thanks chaps.......I'll give them a ring tomorrow:)
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*Start rant*


I've given Fuji a ring and a very helpful chap told me that their couriers - City Link - had tried to deliver the camera twice this week, but that we were not in. On neither occasion did they leave a card or a note so we could organise a alternative delivery date - but they did take photos of my front door so they could prove they'd called:cuckoo:

What a dopey system..........what are we supposed to do, take time off work and sit in all day just on the off chance they call??

Luckily I am at home tomorrow morning as I am on late shift this week, but if they don't come in the morning my wife will have to cancel her plans and sit in all afternoon/evening. Difficult to believe that no one can give us a rough delivery time.....surely the delivery drivers don't just set out each day and drive around randomly - they must have some sort of route and timings?

*Rant over*
 
I've made a couple of posts on DPReview in threads slagging off X10 "Orbs" on fixed sensor cams - just saying I think people are looking for problems when there are none, or at least no worse than flaring from other cameras as far as I can see on the repaired models. Each time I am attacked/called names etc and even got accused of working for Fuji! I wonder if these other guys work for Canon/Nikon? :D

I don't even have my X10 yet! (Pick up later today!) When I get it I'm going to spend every moment searching for orbs rather than, you know, taking pictures n' stuff... ;)

It's amazing how agro people can get but sadly I see it in other forums on other topics all the time, reminds me of when celebrities make a slip of the tongue and everyone gets offended (even if they never saw it originally or even in context on repeats) and you end up with a lynch mob.


Here's the latest thread on it, I've made half a dozen posts in total on a few threads, each attacked. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1012&thread=41877436&page=1

Chin up Lindsay, there are many nutters about but many normal people too.
 
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Lindsay D said:
It looks like there was another attack on my website last night. This seems to happen whenever my x10 comments become prominent (a link to my recent pictures was put on DPR by somebody a few days ago and I was also linked in a well known review website). There are clearly some people out there in the anti-Fuji camp who have still got it in for me. Since the big fiasco in March I've tried to carry on as normal and ignore it, but it's not pleasant and it looks like I'm going to have to stop making any forum contributions. I don't know if my attacker(s) have found their way to this place. Whatever I decide to do I will still be a regular reader of this marvellous thread which I have hugely enjoyed contributing to and learning from.
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Such people clearly suffer from mental health issues, and only go away when they find another more reactive target.
All you can do is ignore them as best you can, and not let them "Rule" your life.

Some site admins are very good at banning them, whilst other sites seem to thrive on the publicity they generate.

I do not feel your attackers would feel welcome on RF or get any support. It is not that sort of site.
Trolls are the bane of the online world and they glory in their stupidity.

They are extremely envious of your reputation and your ability to achieve such high quality work from what is after all , only a rather superior compact.

I am sure all of us here will give you our full support.
 
Lindsay D said:
It looks like there was another attack on my website last night. This seems to happen whenever my x10 comments become prominent (a link to my recent pictures was put on DPR by somebody a few days ago and I was also linked in a well known review website). There are clearly some people out there in the anti-Fuji camp who have still got it in for me. Since the big fiasco in March I've tried to carry on as normal and ignore it, but it's not pleasant and it looks like I'm going to have to stop making any forum contributions. I don't know if my attacker(s) have found their way to this place. Whatever I decide to do I will still be a regular reader of this marvellous thread which I have hugely enjoyed contributing to and learning from.
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Lindsay, this is appalling! It was bad enough first time, but a repeat must be dreadful. I've given up even looking at DPR forums, and would certainly never post there again, but it's pretty much impossible to stop others posting links to your work (probably well-intentioned links). I did notice that you've started to mention the X word in some of your blog posts recently, which might have been another factor. But no-one should have to self-edit their text to avoid offending some mindless idiots.

I really enjoy your blog, both your images and your commentary, and your contributions to this thread have been really valuable; I have learned a lot from them, and find lots to aspire to. I do hope you can find a way to continue.

I noticed the message from moderators here recently about unacceptable commentary (flaming and trolling, I guess), and I do hope they are keeping a really watchful eye out. This forum seems to me to be mostly a supportive and friendly environment, that I very much value. I don't know what else to say, other than to send some supportive thoughts your way, and hope you'll be able to continue.
 
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. There's no way that my enemies are contributors here, but I have wondered if they may have found this place and have read my contributions and taken exception to what I say. I think the only way I can prevent links to my work being put in places like DPR is to keep a much lower profile and not mention the X word anymore. This is a lovely thread and I don't want to have to completely stop coming here to contribute, but I feel like someone somewhere is watching me.

You are right Terry, the behaviour is the product of a sad and inadequate person(s), and of course there are the horrible e-mails I've also been getting since the DPR thing kicked off.
 
Lindsay D said:
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. There's no way that my enemies are contributors here, but I have wondered if they may have found this place and have read my contributions and taken exception to what I say. I think the only way I can prevent links to my work being put in places like DPR is to keep a much lower profile and not mention the X word anymore. This is a lovely thread and I don't want to have to completely stop coming here to contribute, but I feel like someone somewhere is watching me.

You are right Terry, the behaviour is the product of a sad and inadequate person(s), and of course there are the horrible e-mails I've also been getting since the DPR thing kicked off.
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Sorry to hear this, Lindsay. I'm also one of those people thoroughly enjoying your textual as well as your photographic contributions. Probably easier said than done, but just ignore that lot. They're not worth it. Hope you hang in there and wish you well.

Rob
 
Lindsay D said:
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. There's no way that my enemies are contributors here, but I have wondered if they may have found this place and have read my contributions and taken exception to what I say. I think the only way I can prevent links to my work being put in places like DPR is to keep a much lower profile and not mention the X word anymore. This is a lovely thread and I don't want to have to completely stop coming here to contribute, but I feel like someone somewhere is watching me.
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I agree - it feels a bit like this thread is becoming a slating of other forums which may be classed as a tad ironic :lol:

It would be nice if we try our best to keep the thread about the camera and our experiences with it. The amount of information, photos and positive experiences packed into these past 80 odd pages is one hell of an education for most - well certainly me anyway :)

I'm sorry to hear about the website attack - feel free to PM me with the details of what actually occurred as I may be able to offer you some advice to close down some of the hacking loopholes.
 
Thanks Rob - I'll try and ignore it, but it gets tiring. We do have various measures in place, firewalls, filters etc, which do work most of the time but I hate even seeing that there's been an attack. It's the principle that p*sses me off more than anything. And of course it is illegal.

Souldeep, that's very kind, I may well speak to you.
 
Lindsay D said:
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. There's no way that my enemies are contributors here, but I have wondered if they may have found this place and have read my contributions and taken exception to what I say. I think the only way I can prevent links to my work being put in places like DPR is to keep a much lower profile and not mention the X word anymore. This is a lovely thread and I don't want to have to completely stop coming here to contribute, but I feel like someone somewhere is watching me.

You are right Terry, the behaviour is the product of a sad and inadequate person(s), and of course there are the horrible e-mails I've also been getting since the DPR thing kicked off.
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I've no idea what happened on DPReview (and I;m not sure I want to know).
But I'm appalled it should have any bearing on what happens in here!

I would very much like to encourage you to continue participating in this thread as your posts have been an inspiration to all of us.
I think I can speak for all us TP X10 owners that we would 100% support the TP mods if they came down like a ton of bricks on anyone behaving like that.
 
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DuncanDisorderly said:
As for Souldeep...
As I heard it, the RPS is encouraging people to go one step at a time and view it as exceptional to go straight for A; but have not ruled it out.
He should talk to the RPS and get their opinion.
Assuming Souldeep has enough images that fit together well enough to make a panel, then IMHO opinion, his travel images are definitely a strong L candidate, make that very strong; and with his statement they are potential A panel material, but that's determined by whether there is enough images of high enough quality to make a strong cohesive panel of 15 images.
I think Lindsay will back me up on this; it sounds easy, but it isn't!
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I am truly truly humbled by everyone’s positive comments regarding the set. I actually think I could put together 15 from the 300 or so I have. Inspired primarily by your suggestion regarding this I am going to investigate this further.

Ed – for some reason we get blocked at work from the link you sent. I’ll check it next time I’m back in my home environment :) From reactions it sounds like they are impressive!

Crusher - thank you for your very kind words of encouragement :D
 
I don't know what went on, but it's a great shame when the internet goes bad as it can be such a great place. Pity some people can't accept that there are a wide range of opinions and get on with things instead of trying to mess up other people's lives.

I hope Lindsay can find a way to stop the morons and continue posting here.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
I'm reporting myself to the moderators in case they want to tidy this thread up a bit to avoid potential complications.
Just making sure they know this conversation is taking place :)
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Doesn’t harm have a mod check it over as there may be legal implications of mentioning competitor websites by name.

On another tack - do you have you mission statement and a selection of photos for the panel available publically. I would be really interested to check them out. Same goes for you Lindsay - I would love to see the kind of work you submitted with the philosophy behind it.
 
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Well after having an x10 and selling it ive now purchased another x10 as i missed it and only sold it originally because I asked the wife what she thought of some photos i had taken and she said they were ok so i put the camera up for sale in a huff!!!

Even though i havent had the camera for a few months ive been watching this thread which has grown and grown with some outstanding photos and some very useful tips.

Many are an inspiration to show what can be done with the camera and i intend to learn more from it this time. I always shoot in jpeg so may need to start using raw I have photoshop 10 but need to try and understand it its a bit more complicated than picassa!!!

Lindsay ive really enjoyed reading your posts on here looking at your work and reading your blog. Obviously your business comes first but I hope you continue to post and contribute and not let the minority get you down.

Theres lots of people that your work and contributuon has been invaluable to and I hope that this will continue.

Andy
 
Thanks everyone. I will still try and comment, but I'll need to avoid expressing direct opinions and it's unlikely I'll link to any of my work. Bummer. But I don't want things to get any worse for me - it's not just the website attacks, there's been other stuff as well.
 
I started reading this thread and ended up buying an X10 and have learned alot from all the constructive contributions from everyone. I am very sorry to read that Lindsay D has suffered at the hands of some ignorant trolls. Thank you Lindsay for all your help and fabulous photos. Don't let them beat you !
Andy
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
I'm reporting myself to the moderators in case they want to tidy this thread up a bit to avoid potential complications.
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Thanks Duncan.
It's been posted up for discussion and consideration in the staffroom.

It's best that any further conversation about this is done outside of the forum though.
 
Well I now have my X10, a 22+ serial number one, no chance to try much out yet before battery ran out... Seems decent so far though, a little noisy in low light compared to my Nex 5 but colours better from what I've seen.

One thing confusing me - LCD works fine and with all additional info showing until I put it in EXR mode (on the top dial) at which point the image shows as black. All the information remains with a shrunken view in the middle which still highlights focus points with the green box etc but only shows a black view! Did I miss something? Everything else seems to work so it would be odd for one electronic option to malfunction... :D
 
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Jim, quick fix for the black screen in EXR mode _might_ be to press Display/back repeateadly to cycle through the display modes. I keep forgetting how to do this as in P mode it doesn't change. EXR mode gives too much control away for me; basically, it does what it wants!
 
Haha, cheers Chris, I'll give it a go when the endless wait for the battery to charge is done!! :) It's like watching a kettle boil...

I'll probably go to a more manual mode when I've figured it all out, gotten too used to the Nex layout now!
 
just a quick follow up to yesterdays cockup with the exposure button! Took a couple more today of the same spot and they look a lot better! user error, rtfm etc etc :)



 
Lindsay D said:
Sorry but I've just had to take down my recent blog posts which I linked to a couple of pages back. My website appears to be under attack again as I type this.
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Why don't you just disable comments, or at least allow them but require moderation?
 
I don't know what you mean Mark. What comments? I'm suffering repeated DoS attacks on my site for various reasons which I won't bore you with. But in brief, over the last few months my Blog has become something of an attraction to people who are interested in purchasing the X10, and the anti-Fuji mob on a well-known forum took exception to the influence I was having. Subsequently my site came under fire, as did I. My very recent discussions on the new sensor has stoked things again, hence the most recent attacks which I'm talking about at the moment.
 
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