The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

robenroute said:
Yes, indeed. The manual leaves lots to be desired. I bought the X10 book from White Knight Press and that's been more helpful than Fuji's feeble attempt.

I like the rusty bird, by the way! Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks have another couple!
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ernesto said:
100 shots before battery dies sounds pretty bad. Battery on mine has always been good for 600+ shots but then I have the screen turned off and solely use the viewfinder which would explain that I suppose...
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Well being totally y new to the camera there was a lot of reviewing each picture zooming in and across the frame to look for issues and so on - but the camera dieing took me totally by surprise after such a short time. As I get used to the camera I expect less of this & just take more pictures.

Another couple from the day, including the 'show me those orbs' shot
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TBH - I can get it to produce 'orbs' very easily, but in most cases they are quite innocuous and have no impact on the picture unless viewed at high magnification.

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Paul
 
TiggyWink said:
Has anyone got the new book: Photographer's Guide to the Fujifilm X10? Is it worth the price of £19.95 paperback (or £9.95 digital version)?

Just found these reviews on amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Photographers-Guide-Fujifilm-Alexander-White/product-reviews/1937986039

But wanted to hear any comments from this forum, please.
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I've got the PDF version (hard copy wasn't available yet at the time). The first part of the book may be a wee tedious if you've got a bit of photographic sense. It definitely becomes more interesting towards the middle/end as it dives more into X10 specifics. There are lots of example photos and the more exotic features are generally explained well. I found it worth the $10.
 
Hi,

I have the 'kindle' version and gave wadded thought it. To be honest, it's early days with this nook. It's not too obvious where it's found but the journey could be fun.?! As for the price, m not too sure it's worth it, but the jury is out for me.
 
Paul, thanks again. I find that metal lotus flower stunningly beautiful (and well captured, of course ;-)

Where were these taken? It looks like an interesting art garden of sorts.
 
robenroute said:
Paul, thanks again. I find that metal lotus flower stunningly beautiful (and well captured, of course ;-)

Where were these taken? It looks like an interesting art garden of sorts.
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Delamore House Unfortunately the art gardens are only open in May but always worth a visit if you are in the area.

Another place I'd highly recommend would be Broomhill Art Hotel gardens - I have spent many enjoyable hours there.

Paul
 
paul williams said:
TBH - I can get it to produce 'orbs' very easily, but in most cases they are quite innocuous and have no impact on the picture unless viewed at high magnification.
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Do I get a prize?
Tripped across this mega-orb while processing some images earlier today.

RAW, Manual exposure, ISO 200, 7.1mm, f2.8, 1/30s, LR4 defaults.
Deliberately underexposed to preserve the highlights, the shadows pull back amazingly well; but this is not a keeper!
This is the whole image, not a 100% crop!
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cube said:
Cobweb...
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Very nice, but there seems to be a heck of a lot of artefacts in the out of focus highlights.
I'm guessing, but it looks like you aggressively sharpened the background as well as the cobweb.
Either use just a hint of sharpening, or try a different sharpening algorithm, (one that only sharpens edges).
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Very nice, but there seems to be a heck of a lot of artefacts in the out of focus highlights.
I'm guessing, but it looks like you aggressively sharpened the background as well as the cobweb.
Either use just a hint of sharpening, or try a different sharpening algorithm, (one that only sharpens edges).
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Thanks for the feedback.

I did sharpen a little but another problem may be that I was almost looking directly into the sun. I have always found it incredibly difficult to get good photographs of cobwebs, so I tried this backlit method to get the contrast up.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Do I get a prize?
Tripped across this mega-orb while processing some images earlier today.

RAW, Manual exposure, ISO 200, 7.1mm, f2.8, 1/30s, LR4 defaults.
Deliberately underexposed to preserve the highlights, the shadows pull back amazingly well; but this is not a keeper!
This is the whole image, not a 100% crop!
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Would it be a keeper without the 'orb'? - if so, photoshop the 'orb' out :)

Have you decided if you are going for a sensor replacement to get rid of these horrendous artifacts?

Paul
 
A couple of weeks ago I threatened to illustrate how good I've found EXR DR1600%.
Here's an example from two shots taken back to back....

1 (orig) - RAW and Manual exposure set to avoid blowing the highlights - ISO 200, 7.1mm, f2.8, 1/40s.
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1 (tweaked) - RAW with maximum possible recovery of shadow detail in LR4. Not bad! If this was all I'd got I'd still be happy!
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2 (orig) - EXR DR1600%, -2EV so as to keep the dress from blowing - ISO 400, 7.1mm, f2, 1/25s. I wish I could set the exposure manually! That dress is not blown, but the tones have been compressed more than I wanted.
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2 (tweaked) - LR4 used to darken the highlights and a light crop from the left.
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Hopefully the differences are going to be reasonably obvious, even at web resolution.
The only downside is that in tricky lighting like this concert, using EXR is a constant battle to get the exposure right.
I wish there was a way of using EXR mode and still be able to set the exposure manually...
 
paul williams said:
TBH - I can get it to produce 'orbs' very easily, but in most cases they are quite innocuous and have no impact on the picture unless viewed at high magnification.

Paul
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Hi Paul,

High contrast water and sunlight seem to turn out orbs most of the time for me. I agree it is debatable whether this ruins the picture but below is a rather extreme example.

Cheers, Charles.

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paul williams said:
Would it be a keeper without the 'orb'? - if so, photoshop the 'orb' out :)

Have you decided if you are going for a sensor replacement to get rid of these horrendous artifacts?

Paul
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Interesting questions... :)

It would be tricky to photoshop the orb as it overlaps one of the singers; so I never tried.
General scenes like this can be very effective and good ones are always in demand by the organisers.
Here's one that has worked and could easily be in next year's programme; there's an orb in there and it doesn't matter!
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As for sensor replacement... :thinking:
Firstly, there has only been one quick comparison test by DPReview. Although that looks promising, I want to know a little more before I make a decision as I love the X10, orbs and all, and don't want to fix the orbs at the expense of something else which I may value more. However, early indications are that I'd be mad not to!
Secondly, and most frustratingly..... There is no official word from Fuji. The only talk about recall for sensor replacement is on the forums. Indications are that Fuji may announce something soon, but I'm not getting too excited until the official announcement.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Talking of general scenes :D
Here's an X10 panorama from the same festival.
You gotta hand it to the X10, it's almost flawless!
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Interesting panorama. I usually stick to horizontal ones, but this one is fab! Luckily, the lighting was approx. even across the floors; I find that one of the more difficult issues with panos, getting the initial exposure right for the complete scene.
 
robenroute said:
Interesting panorama. I usually stick to horizontal ones, but this one is fab! Luckily, the lighting was approx. even across the floors; I find that one of the more difficult issues with panos, getting the initial exposure right for the complete scene.
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What I've found is before starting the pano, choose a suitable point for distance and brightness, put the centre cross over it, half press which locks exposure and focus, then recompose to the start of the pano, press the shutter the whole way and proceed as normal.
Not as complicated as it sounds.

For example - in the vertical pano above, I started at the top which is influenced by the bright windows. If that had been used for the exposure, then the pano would have been dramatically underexposed. I half pressed on the building's first floor as I wanted the interior correctly exposed, then recomposed back up to the top to start the pano.

Also worth noting that my vertical pano is not at the recommended zoom, it is zoomed in a bit. The recommended wide setting included stairs which were OK, but the shot was better without them. So I zoomed to crop off the stairs and used that setting for the pano.
It works very well. I think the only side effect is that the specified pano angles don't have the same coverage. Also, fully zoomed in is a bit hit and miss, but for moderate zooms like this it works superbly.

Hope that made sense!
 
This is a very informative and friendly thread with lots of good support and encouragement, with a mature attitude which is refreshing.

I have spent a good number of hours wading through all the posts before making up my mind. Well, I have finally taken the plunge and purchased an X10 to take away with me on my next sea draft. Although I have my own cabin onboard, space and luggage is still a premium (in particular, if i have to fly out to join her) . If I took my full DSLR system, I wouldn't have room for the rest of my kit and I'm not leaving my laptop behind.

I have been thinking long and hard about purchasing a camera that I can control, I wanted something with as much functionality as a DSLR but without the size and weight. For me this ticks all the boxes. In the end I opted for an X10 maily for the following reasons:

- Extremely fast quality lens F2.0 - F2.8 4x
- RAW ability
- EV Compensation
- AEL / Focus lock
- Meter (multi, spot & average)
- Full manual exposure (program modes are a given)
- Focus mode (AF-S, AF-C)
- Custom mode (very useful)
- Panoramic mode
- Macro capability
- Slow sync flash mode / hot shoe
- Self timer / cable release facility / tripos bush
- Continuos (burst) shooting mode
- Manual WB

I think for the size and weight there is nothing out there to touch this. Whilst I appreciate it's not an DSLR, for me it's the functionality and controls that are important. There are enough tools on this to 'get the job done'

I'll look forward to trying it out in the next few days and post some images up for you to critique and comment on.

Many thanks,

Nick
 
I have tried the sweep pan mode and it is fine for memo style pans but there is no choice of projection and the quality is heavily reduced.

However the camera can very easily take high quality "hand held" pans in fairly extreme conditions.
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This one has been reduced in size from the original 10419x3154 to 200x605 pixels

I use PTAssembler for the stitching with smart blend for the blender.

I made it as difficult as I could with close fine detailed foreground in the trees and extreme contrast in brightness between the total shadows and full sun in the distance.

The Blender has coped with the severe parallax and the is no noticeable noise.

The procedure is to check an exposure reading using Aperture priority, set that in manual,
change focus to manual and press the AFL/AEL button, this will set the manual focus to the chosen point.
Then quickly take a series of shots in the vertical orientation.

Use the viewfinder not the screen when taking ( you will move the lens less and get less parallax). As the view finder includes a safety margin of 20% all you need to do to get the correct spacing is to make sure an object at the side of one shot is also in the next shot, this will give enough overlap for stitching.

I did not for this shot, but you should also set the WB manually. or you can get colour changes and banding....
 
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Blank_Canvas said:
I think for the size and weight there is nothing out there to touch this. Whilst I appreciate it's not an DSLR, for me it's the functionality and controls that are important. There are enough tools on this to 'get the job done'

I'll look forward to trying it out in the next few days and post some images up for you to critique and comment on.

Many thanks,

Nick
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Nick, look forward to seeing some piccies, especially ones from the boat :thumbs:

That's a nice summary of the X10.
If my X10 died, I'd probably go straight out and get another.
I presume you read the Dan Bailey '10 things...' link posted on the previous page?

For those who haven't read back, I'd just like to summarise some of the use/abuse I've given my X10.
It has stood alongside landscape photographers with 5DIIs and Lee Grads and delivered the images I wanted, had a go at light painting, produced great images at concerts and festivals, created exhibition quality A3 prints which made the shortlist for picture of the year at my local club and took one of the images I'm submitting to Take A View.
The X10 has been used a lot when the weather has been too severe to get the big kit out the bag and consequently has spent many days sitting in a wet coat pocket or covered in salt spray - hasn't missed a beat (touch wood).
When I'm out with other photographers I've always initially had my leg pulled regards my 'toy' camera, but when they see the results they often end up wanting to know more about the X10.
The only niggle is the blasted orbs and I'll be glad to get them sorted; doesn't stop me loving my X10 though. :)
 
We went to a farm & country fair this morning. Apart from the usual bric-a-brac, they also had a few cows running around...


DSCF0748 by Robenroute, on Flickr


And, paging through the photos, I couldn't keep this candid shot from you:


DSCF0711 by Robenroute, on Flickr


And, while we're at it, the X10's macro capabilities are just fantastic:


DSCF0661 by Robenroute, on Flickr


It's a pity I have so little time; the X10 has really brought back the fun in taking photographs. Like Duncan said earlier, if my X10 past away, I'd buy a new one the very same day.

Nick (Blank Canvas), welcome! Enjoy your X10. I'm looking forward to your photos!
 
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Heres one taken just outside Canterbury last week. I was at work.......

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Love those greens. Shame about the OOF leaves in the foreground though. I took this using the OVF and thought I could crop the leaves out. :(

Allan
 
I have to admit that even with my significant reservations with this camera it was really quite liberating to stick the camera in the pocket of my baggy shorts and pop two cards a a spare battery in another in this little pack.

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Unfortunately, I'm going to have to get some form of strap and I do feel that a lens hood is required, as is a third battery (maybe).

I still think its far to complex and I'm perhaps one of the few people who think it could do with being bigger (I have very baggy pockets)!

Paul
 
paul williams said:
I have to admit that even with my significant reservations with this camera it was really quite liberating to stick the camera in the pocket of my baggy shorts and pop two cards a a spare battery in another in this little pack.

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to get some form of strap and I do feel that a lens hood is required, as is a third battery (maybe).

I still think its far to complex and I'm perhaps one of the few people who think it could do with being bigger (I have very baggy pockets)!

Paul
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LOL :cool:
I reckon that cardsafe is going to need space for a spare pair of underwear; that's the only way you will actually need a third battery :D:D:D

Remember - less is more....
 
Just Wanted to say Hi, have read the thread from start to finish and want to thank everyone who has has contributed with info and fantastic photos, the info I got from dp review really put me off this camera, but after reading everything here have decided I will buy one of the refurbs. Also thanks to whoever posted the discount code looked like it will save mr £33. Will post up some pics in due course. Once again thanks all.
Tom
 
Griff110 said:
Just Wanted to say Hi, have read the thread from start to finish and want to thank everyone who has has contributed with info and fantastic photos, the info I got from dp review really put me off this camera, but after reading everything here have decided I will buy one of the refurbs. Also thanks to whoever posted the discount code looked like it will save mr £33. Will post up some pics in due course. Once again thanks all.
Tom
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Good grief! - that code still works :thumbs:
Welcome to TP!!!!!!!!!
 
paul williams said:
I have to admit that even with my significant reservations with this camera it was really quite liberating to stick the camera in the pocket of my baggy shorts and pop two cards a a spare battery in another in this little pack.

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to get some form of strap and I do feel that a lens hood is required, as is a third battery (maybe).

I still think its far to complex and I'm perhaps one of the few people who think it could do with being bigger (I have very baggy pockets)!

Paul
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Hi Paul. Neat little case you've got there. Where did you spot that? Does that take 2 SD cards and 2 spare batteries?

I'm pondering a hood as well. Probably will go for one of them rubber ones, that fold back/forwards in three stages. I've seen one on eB that also screws nicely into my UV filter (52mm). You can also fold them back completely so packing the camera with hood into something like the AW60 shouldn't be too much of a hassle.

I'm rather happy with the size of the X10. I get the impression your wanting it larger has everything to do with the limited battery capacity. Perhaps you should give it a few more cycles to build up stamina. But then again, I don't know how many photos you're looking at, per day. I get several hundred on a single charge...
 
robenroute said:
Hi Paul. Neat little case you've got there. Where did you spot that? Does that take 2 SD cards and 2 spare batteries?

I'm pondering a hood as well. Probably will go for one of them rubber ones, that fold back/forwards in three stages. I've seen one on eB that also screws nicely into my UV filter (52mm). You can also fold them back completely so packing the camera with hood into something like the AW60 shouldn't be too much of a hassle.

I'm rather happy with the size of the X10. I get the impression your wanting it larger has everything to do with the limited battery capacity. Perhaps you should give it a few more cycles to build up stamina. But then again, I don't know how many photos you're looking at, per day. I get several hundred on a single charge...
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Unfortunately the case only takes 2 cards and one battery - 7dayshop used to sell them (but no longer) they are designed for 2xSD + 2xCF (or memory stick) cards. For the hood, I'll try one of the Chinese versions of the official one and see how I get on. The size thing - no not the battery capacity, per say, the camera is just too darn small to be held comfortably by me and I keep hitting buttons when I don't want to and feel as if my hands are deformed trying to get to the buttons that I want to use!

Paul
 
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paul williams said:
The size thing - no not the battery capacity, per say, the camera is just too darn small to be held comfortably by me and I keep hitting buttons when I don't want to and feel as if my hands are deformed trying to get to the buttons that I want to use!

Paul
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Too bad about the case... Sorry for making the wrong assumption, Paul. I guess it's the consequence of a camera pocketable and advanced. I'm just glad I don't have to lug my SLR bodies around any longer. But I do run into the occasional thick finger issue. I'll just have to get used to it...
 
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