The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

Apart from aesthetics, do these soft release buttons actually serve a purpose?

Do they improve the feel of the shutter release or make the operation smoother?

I've not tried one myself, and trying to get to the bottom of if they are really functional over ascetical but from what I've read they seem to offer a smoother camera stability when you click away. Some of them offer the ability to "squeeze" between first and second finger joints rather than press for the shot.
 
Neiltluck said:
Just ordered one of these, so will be interesting to see how it fairs compared to a traditional tripod

Same.... Mine should be waiting for me when i get back to uni!! Hopefully it will be a great addition to the kit bag!
 
I find it easier to use than using the regular shutter, I can feel more definition in the half press/full press (that's about as technical as I can get about it!) and its a a useful thing for portraits "just look towards the blue button....!"
 
Oooops guess I am silly, maybe senile, or having a senior moment, or two, or three, not quite a pensioner. Anyhows that my excuse/s :$

we're just kidding :D And I know all about the senior moments :(
 
I've not tried one myself, and trying to get to the bottom of if they are really functional over ascetical but from what I've read they seem to offer a smoother camera stability when you click away. Some of them offer the ability to "squeeze" between first and second finger joints rather than press for the shot.

Still undecided as to whether or not to get one, although there are some real cheapies on fleabay, so if I don't like it I guess it won't matter a deal.

I find it easier to use than using the regular shutter, I can feel more definition in the half press/full press (that's about as technical as I can get about it!) and its a a useful thing for portraits "just look towards the blue button....!"

I've heard only positive reviews of these little buttons, so I am erring to the get one side of the fence.
I like your take on the "look towards the blue button" I must say. I don't take portraits very much, but it is a great way to capture the subjects' attention.
 
Ok so my focus and composition aren't great as they were quick hand helds, but my god the super macro mode is amazing!!

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On a different note, does anyone know of a good tutorial for Lightroom 3.6?

Cheers

Neil
 
Hmmmmnnn.... at first I thought these grips were quite pleasing to the eye but certainly not entirely convinced about their contribution to stability. For decades some of the finest photographers have managed rather well with their rangefinders without the benefit of these accoutrements. At £96 the creme d'la creme version seems more than a little excessive. I mean that's 25% of the cost of the camera!!! Consequently and not withstanding the concept of to each his or her own, I'm wondering if they may eventually become something akin to the bull bars one seen on SUVs. :D
 
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Hmmmmnnn.... at first I thought these grips were quite pleasing to the eye but certainly not entirely convinced about their contribution to stability ... I'm wondering if they may eventually become something akin to the bull bars one seen on SUVs. :D

So going by that logic am I right to assume you found the bull horns initially attractive on SUVs? :lol:
 
If there was a plastic grip available if could be sold for a few quid which would at least give people the chance to try it (and maybe even keep it if they don't think having a metal one for £70 more is worth it!)

It doesn't actually need to be made of metal for the task it is doing...
 
I bought my X10 for an upcoming trip to South East Asia with the idea of leaving the DSLR at home... but could not resist having a play in the studio....

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Shot on P and straight out of the camera jpegs.... impressed and can't believe how responsive the model was to a "small" camera..
 
Just got mine today from the Fuji shop refurbished and it looks like new complete with an extra battery.
However, when I turn the zoom ring to the off position it does not line up with the mark and I get the orange light blinking slowly for a few seconds. The manual states this is because the lens is inbetween the off and on position. Mine will not move round to the off position.

Thoughts? is this normal or bust!
 
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Well after spending the last three days trawling through this thread I have finally reached the end and I suppose I should post some pictures!
I am really glad I found this forum, I just can't deal with the people over at DPR and there isn't any quality discussion about the X10 without someone going 'ORBS! :gag: ' which just ruins that place for me.

I've had the X10 for about three weeks now and before that I was primarily using a Canon AE-1p 35mm and a lubitel 166b 120mm. My interest was sparked a year ago when I really found a lot of enjoyment from the photography section of my media course at college. Coming from manual film cameras I was always put off by the lack of 'instant control' in digital cameras, especially in more compact cameras. What I mean by that is a million different sub-menus just to change the aperture and shutter in full manual, for example. I can't even remember where I first saw the X10 but I immediately fell in love with it. It has so many features that as a film-camera user I was just going 'why the heck don't they put that on a digital camera? Do people really not take control of their photographs anymore?'.

I really love the X10. The orbs are a bit of an issue for me as I love taking long exposures, particularly of buildings at night so I am really looking forward to the sensor replacement (although I am going to wait for first reports from other people as to whether there are any downsides to the upgraded sensor) but other than that it is just a really really fun camera to use. It seems everyone who has owned one (who has enough common sense to go: ok, this is a problem, but its being fixed) just really LOVES to use the thing; no matter its quirky nature. Besides, that is part of the fun, learning the quirks of something and discovering for yourself how to get around them and why those quirks are there.

Time for some pictures. I've never shot colour film before, only black and white so I feel much more comfortable in post with black and white images. Most if not all of my colour images are hardly edited with the exception of contrast and shadows/highlights in photoshop. My black and white photographs are converted using Silver Efex pro and have a fair amount of editing done with that program. The thing that I really like to use is structure which can really transform a photograph. Silver efex is a really lovely program to use!

My ethos when editing is: I'll make a good photograph great, but I won't make a bad photograph good. I'll try to use as little as possible.
I know a lot of people are against editing in post but please respect my way of doing things, as I respect yours.

On with the photos eh? :bonk:

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Taken from the car as we were driving along near Redruth, Cornwall.

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This is a HDR picture converted to black and white. The leaves on the left of the tree stand out a bit too much for me but I like the rest of the picture.

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The structure control in silver efex really made this picture. It really brought out the veins in the leaves. I also had to remove some weird texture I was getting from the white blown-out parts on the left which were ruining an otherwise lovely picture (in my eyes).

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Couldn't decide which I preferred out of these two so I usually show them together!

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Generic serene-looking swan shot :p

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Lastly, trying out the full 360 panorama in St ives, cornwall. I was really quite impressed with how well it worked!
 
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Well after spending the last three days trawling through this thread I have finally reached the end and I suppose I should post some pictures!
I am really glad I found this forum, I just can't deal with the people over at DPR and there isn't any quality discussion about the X10 without someone going 'ORBS! :gag: ' which just ruins that place for me.

Asa - That's an impressive first post :cool:
Welcome to TP!

Glad you are enjoying your X10....
I'd love to see one of your long exposure shots. The X10 has no Bulb mode, so long exposures are limited to a maximum of 30s at ISO 100, and you cannot up the ISO; not sure why the X10 has this limitation but luckily I don't hit it very often!
 
Asa - That's an impressive first post :cool:
Welcome to TP!

Glad you are enjoying your X10....
I'd love to see one of your long exposure shots. The X10 has no Bulb mode, so long exposures are limited to a maximum of 30s at ISO 100, and you cannot up the ISO; not sure why the X10 has this limitation but luckily I don't hit it very often!

Thank you very much!

I haven't experimented much as of yet with long exposures. I am waiting to try and get my hands on a 40mm-52mm step ring so I can attach all my nd filters. I am put off by the gaps in the 'official' style adapters you get as letting light in kind of ruins the point of having an ND filter! I have messaged heavystar on ebay to see if he is going to be getting any more in. If not I will have to order the adapter and gaffa tafe the holes up or something like that!

With the late-night exposures I am put off trying them in the places that I have wanted to for a long time (the docks in the town I live in would look great as a long exposure) because of lighting and orb issues. They will have to wait I suppose.

As far as I know bulb settings can burn out sensors on smaller cameras. Having used a 5D mk II so film with at college the whole camera gets incredibly hot so I can imagine the sensor is taking a big grunt. That is not to mention the MASSIVE drain on batteries that come with long exposures. Oh well, I have a spare battery! :D

However, I do want to see either extended shutter speeds of a bulb function on the X10 in later firmware updates - do you think if I e-mailed fuji they would listen? :D
 
Asa,
If you are using screw in filters you should be fine.
I've used the adapter with holes and a Hoya R72 IR filter; I found no evidence the holes caused a problem.
However, they did cause a problem for someone else using a square filter holder, probably because the filter was further away from the lens.

I'd say it is worth giving the night time shots a go....
The orbs may not detract from the image.
I've used the X10 in full-on music concert lighting and looking at 100% you can see orbs; but the images still look great.
Occasionally I get a shot where the orb is too prominent, but in my experience these are rare enough that it is not worth worrying about and to take the photos anyway.

Good luck emailing Fuji; I think you'd be more likely to get it fixed writing to Santa.
 
I think I'd still rather see if heavystar is getting the sealed step filters in again. If its going to be ages before he gets them then I'll get the adapter but there's no harm in waiting for a reply.

Maybe we could each send at e-mail to them asking for a bulb setting, if enough people ask for it they can't ignore it - look what happened with the orbs - its worth a shot! :lol:

I really like the macro on the x10. Combine that with the selective autofocus and you get some really nice shots.

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Took me many, many attempts to get this picture how I liked it. First time the weather was bright and sunny and I got tips of leaves blown out which meant massive white blobs - not orbs, simply overexposed - on some of the leaves. Went out and shot it again earlier as it is just down from my road and although the exposure was better, when I got back I realised I'd effed' up the composition so I went out again a few minutes ago and finally got it right. Tried out a few different apertures too. This is f/5 but I'm not sure whether a wider aperture would have been better.

Oh well! You can't have it all.
 
I feel like I am missing out here, not posting any images, but since I bought the X10 I have been suffering from Pneumonia so can't get out much. Heres a couple of indoor shots.

Flo, our rescue Labrador as excitable as ever.....

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And I thought I'd try the mirror image shot, with a twist...

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Love this camera, can't wait to get out with it

Allan
 
Ok,

I've just sent an e-mail to fujitec@fuji.co.uk with suggestions for a bulb setting, faster manual focus, more options for bracketed exposures and for program shift to work with auto ISO.

Please, please, please can every else send an e-mail asking for the same things? Especially the bulb setting! :D If we get enough it must work!

Asa.
 
Ok,

I've just sent an e-mail to fujitec@fuji.co.uk with suggestions for a bulb setting, faster manual focus, more options for bracketed exposures and for program shift to work with auto ISO.

Please, please, please can every else send an e-mail asking for the same things? Especially the bulb setting! :D If we get enough it must work!

Asa.

press the ael/afl button to focus quickly in manual
 
After seeing Asa's panorama I thought I'd have a go.
Lights failing a bit but as I am not allowed out, heres my prison... (Thats the Mother in Law playing solitaire on her £800 laptop!)


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Its only messed it up at the far right end, I suppose that was me not keeping it level all the way round
Very impressed.

Allan
 
Not had chance to use the X10 much since purchasing it but took it to a recent trip to Wales and was the only camera I took. Learned a lesson that 2 batteries aren't enough and always remember your charger!!!

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press the ael/afl button to focus quickly in manual

I didn't know this trick and couldn't work it out; so took my own advice and searched the PDF manual - and there it is on p47!
It will be SO useful - cheers :thumbs:

I'd always flipped into AF-S, locked focus, then flipped back to MF.
It worked, but this is WAY better.
 
Any comments positive or negative appreciated.

Thanks Andy

Nice set - looks like you had a good time - gorgeous weather!
Did you pop into Pete's Eats while you were in Llanberis?

I get the feeling they have been sharpened a bit aggressively.
It's doing something strange to the out of focus areas as instead of being creamy they are full of texture.
For example, the vertical lines in the grey triangle to the right of the owls head are out of place compared to the soft red and black areas next to it.
Could just be me, but I think you just need to lean on the sliders slightly less hard....
 
Thanks for your comments the weather was great and we went on the Llanberis railway but didn't go round Llanberis itself as was trying to get everything into a couple of days but were going to go back again in August.

I'm rubbish at pp so have just purchased and used smart photo editor from the same people who did portrait professional but looking closer I can see what you mean.

Heres the original picture of the owl straight from camera.

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Heres the original picture of the owl straight from camera.

That's looks a lot more natural!
The grey triangle looks similarly out of focus to the red and black; and importantly, is no longer pulling my attention from the magnificent owl.
The owl is already nice and sharp; it only needs breathing on to give it a tiny bit more zing; but do not make the background any more distracting.
This is a classic example of why local adjustments are so useful.

I tend to post-process along the lines that if you can tell it is there, then it probably is overdone.
Post processing is to make what the camera captured more like what I remember from being there at the time.
Not everyone shares those opinions.
Be interesting to hear what the others think...

Edited to add....
If anything; that background need making less distracting. That will make the owl pop from the image without even having to touch the owl.
I'd suggest starting by darkening the background by half a stop, reduce it's contrast a fair chunk and ever so slightly desaturate it - then see how it looks.
The goal is to make the image so the owl is not competing for attention with the rest of the image.
I'm away for a week and don't have time to offer to tinker just now, but if no-one has picked up the challenge by the time I get back I'll drag this back up and see if you would like me to show you what I meant.
 
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New to this thread so a quick hello to everyone! :) I've been reading away at this thread and had nearly convinced myself I wanted an X10, however I had a proper play with an X100 today and fell in love, however it's out of my price range :( Has anyone here gone ahead and bought an X10 whilst lusting the X100? If so were you disappointed? Or has the X10 kept you happy?
Adam
 
I'm in the lucky position to have both. I bought an X100 a couple of weeks ago and the X10 a few days ago. They are both great, but at the moment I am getting my head around the X10. I miss the viewfinder of the X100, but other than that its almost as good, with the added benefit of a nice zoom lens.
My advice would be to get the X10 while you can and enjoy it. Maybe get the X100 later...

Allan
 
If you really want an X100 then save and get one, if you buy an X10 you will always be wishing you had got an X100. That is how my head works anyway!

I would prefer an X100 for the sensor and the viewfinder but I know (after owning some fixed lens compacts - Ricoh GRD, Sigma DP1) that I need the zoom lens and the X10 has a very useful zoom range.
I use mine with the screen turned off so having even minimal info (aperture, shutter speed, ISO) in the viewfinder would have made the X10 perfect as the IQ is hard to tell from DSLR for the sort of shooting I do (general walkabout handheld spur of moment)
 
Just got mine today from the Fuji shop refurbished and it looks like new complete with an extra battery.
However, when I turn the zoom ring to the off position it does not line up with the mark and I get the orange light blinking slowly for a few seconds. The manual states this is because the lens is inbetween the off and on position. Mine will not move round to the off position.

Thoughts? is this normal or bust!

Can anyone answer?

And some pics straight from camera.

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Can anyone answer?
Doesn't sound right to me. Mine shuts off fine with the marks lining up properly and if you listen carefully you can hear a click/chirp sound as it shuts.
Allan
 
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