The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

meruby said:
but they do, Duncan. They're all out in the evening taking pictures of street lamps ... :bonk:
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Lol :lol:

But in all seriousness I do enjoy taking shots of nightscapes so I'm crossing my fingers the firmware update will soften the discs enough to make it a non issue.
 
I might take mine to work tomorrow to see what it makes of all the 500W halogen lamps we're using at the moment.
 
essexash said:
god its an awful place, i always come out of there feeling like i need a wash. It just seems to be full of people who buy gear simply to criticise it!

not at all like this place which seems to be like your fave pair of knackered old slippers.
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I laughed and laughed and laughed. Why? Because I read "slappered old knickers". Don't ask me how or why, my brain works in mysterious ways...

Anyway, I just got an X10 (about 3 weeks ago now), just because I happened to stumble across these forums here and I was caught by Duncan's great encounter with his X10. My new X10's been out for a few spins. I'm impressed with the build quality, the Astia colours (no raw yet), and the ability to catch the atmosphere. I'll share some photos in the next few days/weeks (work's pushing me free time down the tubes, at the moment).

I'm enjoying this forum for all the sensible input, feedback, comments, and what have you. Thanks everyone!

Regards,
Rob
 
robenroute said:
Anyway, I just got an X10 (about 3 weeks ago now), just because I happened to stumble across these forums here and I was caught by Duncan's great encounter with his X10. My new X10's been out for a few spins. I'm impressed with the build quality, the Astia colours (no raw yet), and the ability to catch the atmosphere. I'll share some photos in the next few days/weeks (work's pushing me free time down the tubes, at the moment).b
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Evening! :D
Love to see some of your images when you get a chance :thumbs:

I still haven't shared my piccies from last weekend (just RAW).
Part of the problem is that the RAW images need SO much more work (JPEGs are so much more convenient).
Will be worth it though (I keep telling myself) as the images I have finished with so far are well lush...
 
What I like most about the X10 (apart from its size and handling) is its close up capability. And I'm finding a screen useful for the first time to get low angles.

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I've started using RAW and it does take more work, but is worth it for contrasty subjects.

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Was going to buy an X100 for my travels but........ just ordered an X10 from Fuji refurb for £364.98 delivered! Full Fuji warranty, discount code P10FEB15 if anyone is interested.
 
Toxic said:
Was going to buy an X100 for my travels but........ just ordered an X10 from Fuji refurb for £364.98 delivered! Full Fuji warranty, discount code P10FEB15 if anyone is interested.
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Very nice!

I think that might be a winner :)
 
Some piccies from the Forest of Dean.
All taken using RAW and processed with LR3.

1) Frost looks great using Super Macro; definitely going to give this another go :)
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2) Twisted tree
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3) Beech Leaves - I like the recession through the distant woodland.
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4) More Beech Leaves - whereas in this image I like the way the left hand tree trunk glows.
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5) Spooky woodland glade.
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6) A dusting of snow on woodland grass. Doesn't have to be square, but the format suits this image.
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And some less serious images from the same trip...

1) I love my trees; sometimes the winter colours can be surprisingly vibrant.
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2) You can tell how passionate a photographer is about their photography just from their body language :D
Yup - that's a medium format range finder.
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3) Every trip out with the camera, I seem to end up taking at least one vaguely rude image :thinking:
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4) Not sure if this is entitled to my copyright or not. It's a self-portrait and I set the shot up, but someone else held the camera and pushed the button. :suspect:
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5) Dunno about you lot, but I find this scene nice and restful.
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6) Thought I'd have a go at Environmental Portraiture. The neighbour's Disco can't have long left in this world and this is how she'd like it remembered.
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I must admit I'm struggling to get to grips with my X10, having used a DSLR exclusively for the past few years now makes me feel I 'should' always use it, even more so having just picked up a D3s.

We're going out with the kids for a walk today so I'll take it with me. I'm finding the viewfinder particularly frustrating, I just naturally look through and try to change the focal point so that's going to take some getting used to!

It's ok for the wife I guess but it's a lot of camera just to be sitting there having the very odd picture taken by her, so I'll keep at it.
 
Dman said:
I must admit I'm struggling to get to grips with my X10, having used a DSLR exclusively for the past few years now makes me feel I 'should' always use it, even more so having just picked up a D3s...
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I get days like that Dave... It takes a bit of lateral thinking to remember that if we directly compare the X10 with our DSLRs, the image quality isn't the same. The trick is in remembering that when your head's screwed on right, the X10 is capable of producing images that some DSLR users would struggle to imitate! :)

Stick at it and have fun in the park! :thumbs:
 
Well, I am convinced, have got my D7000 up for sale - found I was never takng it out- and will be getting an X10.
Have had a quick read through the thread, lots of good info and think I should have made some notes.
Duncan - can not find the ref to the bag you have, could you let me know and have you got a top 10 tips for the X10. Looked at the user manual PDF and you are right - it does not go into any great detail. Thanks
 
Heres some infra red conversions i did today of an old abandoned 16th century church. TBH im not sure what workflow to use when converting an infra red image. Theres a million and one step throughs online on taking a regular colour image and giving it a fake infra red workover, but nothing i can find on how to best process an actual infra red photo taken with an infra red filter. All ive done is convert to black and white and then fiddle with levels a little. If anyone has any tips they use then shoot away.






 
My first photos here; new to the TP forums. Got my X10 nearly 3 weeks ago and I'm rather pleased with build quality, handling and, of course, the nice Astia colours. Went for a scoop of fresh air today, late afternoon walk around town.
Pictures are JPGs straight out of the X10, no fiddling. All are P, Astia, Auto ISO, DR400%.

Feedback is more than welcome. Enjoy your Sunday.

Rob



High and dry by Robenroute, on Flickr


Modern watchtowers by Robenroute, on Flickr


Cold chunks everywhere by Robenroute, on Flickr
 
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Just wanted to post a few photos, but only red crosses are showing. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. Anyone with a shove in the right direction, please? Thanks.

Rob

P.S. Photos are on Flickr
 
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robenroute said:
Just wanted to post a few photos, but only red crosses are showing. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. Anyone with a shove in the right direction, please? Thanks.

Rob

P.S. Photos are on Flickr
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You're pasting the page link between the IMG tags.

Use the share button on the Flickr page, grab the BBCode and paste it in to your post.
 
robenroute said:
Just wanted to post a few photos, but only red crosses are showing. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. Anyone with a shove in the right direction, please? Thanks.

Rob

P.S. Photos are on Flickr
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FAQ here on posting pictures.
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=166289

What I do (someone please post if better method)
On flickr view the picture at size you want to post
Click share icon above picture
Copy the BBCode and paste it into your post on TP.


There was a better method, post edited -Thanks Brian
 
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Hi all,

Great thread with some brilliant advice. However, having read here and various other web sites I am still a little unsure of one thing and hope someone more knowledgable can help. Am I correct that hardware DR is only available at M size? I am aware that I can use 100 ISO DR400 at M or 400 ISO DR400 at L but think that the DR400 only uses hardware EXR wizardry at M and software only at L by under exposing for the highlights and then applying a tone curve. If that is the case then surely M size is the way to go for best results? Or is the ISO400M processed the same way?

Thanks
Steve
 
Took a trip up to Manchester this weekend - the more I use the X10 the more I love it

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In best Python tradition....
And now for something completely different.....
Rock Abstracts taken yesterday.

Shot in Aperture priority at ISO 100 in RAW in poor light (auto focus only just working) using a monopod for stability.
PP in LR3 limited to contrast and black point plus a light crop; I didn't need to touch the saturation! Despite what it looks like, I didn't even use Macro mode!
I need to go back to this location with the big camera with my macro lens.

1)
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2)
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3)
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4)
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5)
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I must have been in an odd mood, as this landscape taken earlier in the day looks rather weird and kinda dreamy. I took three of them but this was the most balanced. I've no idea what I did differently, but I like the effect.
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nog said:
Well, I am convinced, have got my D7000 up for sale - found I was never takng it out- and will be getting an X10.
Have had a quick read through the thread, lots of good info and think I should have made some notes.
Duncan - can not find the ref to the bag you have, could you let me know and have you got a top 10 tips for the X10. Looked at the user manual PDF and you are right - it does not go into any great detail. Thanks
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LOL - if you read this thread then you wouldn't have been expecting much from the manual - and yet it still failed to reach your expectations :D

The bag I use was recommended on another forum - I'll back that recommendation as it's excellent.
Lowepro Apex 60 AW Black - watch the video on the Further Information tab.
A spare battery fits in the memory card holder but there is no room for anything else in the front compartment.
I've never needed the shoulder strap as the Sliplock attaches securely to my trouser or rucksack belt.

Top 10 tips are...
1) get out there and use the X10, whatever the weather.
2-9) repeat until happy.
10) If you are after matching image quality from your D7000, then take ISO 100 and RAW. But it's definitely worth experimenting with what else the X10 is capable of.
 
Rob, Dave - Great to see someone else sharing their X10 images; welcome!
The two that float my boat are the Ice Blocks and Pennine Landscape, but I'm sure people will disagree with me as they are all excellent :D

EssexAsh - One of my photobuddies is into film and was sufficiently inspired by your IR shots that she going to go and get some IR film to play with - nice one! :thumbs:
 
stevebuk said:
Hi all,

Great thread with some brilliant advice. However, having read here and various other web sites I am still a little unsure of one thing and hope someone more knowledgable can help. Am I correct that hardware DR is only available at M size? I am aware that I can use 100 ISO DR400 at M or 400 ISO DR400 at L but think that the DR400 only uses hardware EXR wizardry at M and software only at L by under exposing for the highlights and then applying a tone curve. If that is the case then surely M size is the way to go for best results? Or is the ISO400M processed the same way?

Thanks
Steve
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Steve - since no-one has picked up your gauntlet, I'll have a go. but what you are asking is pretty advanced given how rubbish the documentation is, the only sure thing to do is experiment. But I'll answer what I can.

I believe you are right - Hardware DR is only available at M size.
From experimentation and guesswork I came to the following conclusions.
It works by using the two half sensors to take two different exposures at the same time. The results are combined using tone mapping; although this is an HDR technique the result is natural looking. The downside is that if the subject is moving, then the two exposures do not align and you get coloured fringing. My conclusion was that it is a get-out--of-jail-free card for tricky lighting and not something I'd use by default; the same is true of most of the X10's fancy modes.

Software DR is interesting... It uses the considerable highlight and shadow detail from the RAW, tone maps the full dynamic range and wraps the result into a Jpeg. Effectively a single image HDR, I found the results very good; it uses local adjustments to bring out the texture and indicates what the RAW is capable of producing while remaining photo-realistic enough to use on its own. The downside is that the X10 ups the ISO; I have no idea why as the extended range at ISO 100 is excellent (and noise free). Experiment and see how you get on with it.

Hope that helped - Duncan
 
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DuncanDisorderly said:
A spare battery fits in the memory card holder but there is no room for anything else in the front compartment.
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I got the Apex60 also (thanks to your recommendations), there's an hidden pocket inside on each side with the opening toward the bottom of the pouch.
You can fit easily 2 batteries (stacked one on top of the other) on each side. I usually store 2 batteries on the right side and one on the left. I keep my spare SD card in the front compartment.
 
marcQc said:
I got the Apex60 also (thanks to your recommendations), there's an hidden pocket inside on each side with the opening toward the bottom of the pouch.
You can fit easily 2 batteries (stacked one on top of the other) on each side. I usually store 2 batteries on the right side and one on the left. I keep my spare SD card in the front compartment.
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WHAT !!!!!!!
I've never spotted those before - in fact it took me three goes at finding them re-reading your text in between till I finally worked it out...
I always wondered why the sides are made to expand in the way they look like they should - now I know :bang:
Many thanks - Duncan
 
Hi all,

I am trying to find out where to get my hands on things like a soft shutter release button, cable release and so on.

Think I am going to get the official Fuji hood and adaptor rings then least I know they will fit.

I would just like to personalise the camera a little.

Also is anyone using a specific bag or are you using the official leather style cases (either official of ebay version)

From a quick google search there don't appear to be many places selling these items in the uk?
 
antc said:
Hi all,

I am trying to find out where to get my hands on things like a soft shutter release button, cable release and so on.

Think I am going to get the official Fuji hood and adaptor rings then least I know they will fit.

I would just like to personalise the camera a little.

Also is anyone using a specific bag or are you using the official leather style cases (either official of ebay version)

From a quick google search there don't appear to be many places selling these items in the uk?
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Anthony,
Ah Ha - questions I can have a fair shot at answering :D

Cable release - anything from the good old film days that screws into the shutter button. Either ask yer Dad to dig his out the back of cupboard, or go eBay. I've not seen an electronic release, they are all pure manual. I haven't used one myself despite having one left over from my film days, when I've used the X10 on a tripod the 2s self timer has met my needs.

Adaptor ring and hood - not actually needed unless you want to use filters (ND or IR). The X10 seems amazingly resistant to flare. The one I have is a Chinese copy of the official Fuji item and I've had none of the fit problems mentioned elsewhere in the thread.

Last few pages have included a lot of discussion about cases including quite a few piccies of their purchases. There are some solid recommendations and links to purchase; decide on a budget and pick the one that suits your style (I went Rough and Rugged but most people have gone Classic Chic). Have a read and post specific questions back here.

Hope that helped - Duncan
 
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Well I tried a couple camera shops today to try and get my hands on one for the play but neither had stock in :(

Does the Apex camera bag have a belt loop by any chance? Would it work like a 'bum bag/fanny pack' type holder?

Does anyone have any examples of shots of say a car at the wide end of the lens? I would be interested to see the sort of perspective the 28mm start gives me in comparison to my 18-70 on the DSLR :)
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Steve - since no-one has picked up your gauntlet, I'll have a go. but what you are asking is pretty advanced given how rubbish the documentation is, the only sure thing to do is experiment. But I'll answer what I can.

I believe you are right - Hardware DR is only available at M size.
From experimentation and guesswork I came to the following conclusions.
It works by using the two half sensors to take two different exposures at the same time. The results are combined using tone mapping; although this is an HDR technique the result is natural looking. The downside is that if the subject is moving, then the two exposures do not align and you get coloured fringing. My conclusion was that it is a get-out--of-jail-free card for tricky lighting and not something I'd use by default; the same is true of most of the X10's fancy modes.

Software DR is interesting... It uses the considerable highlight and shadow detail from the RAW, tone maps the full dynamic range and wraps the result into a Jpeg. Effectively a single image HDR, I found the results very good; it uses local adjustments to bring out the texture and indicates what the RAW is capable of producing while remaining photo-realistic enough to use on its own. The downside is that the X10 ups the ISO; I have no idea why as the extended range at ISO 100 is excellent (and noise free). Experiment and see how you get on with it.

Hope that helped - Duncan
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Hi Duncan,

Thanks for the reply. Will have a play and post some pictures.

Regards,
Steve
 
Doug, Your 18-70 has the same angle of view as a 27-105mm on a FF camera, the X10 lens has a aov of 28-112mm when compared to a FF camera. So a fraction less at the wide end and a wee bit more at the long end than your kit lens.
 
robenroute said:
My first photos here; new to the TP forums. Got my X10 nearly 3 weeks ago and I'm rather pleased with build quality, handling and, of course, the nice Astia colours. Went for a scoop of fresh air today, late afternoon walk around town.
Pictures are JPGs straight out of the X10, no fiddling. All are P, Astia, Auto ISO, DR400%.

Feedback is more than welcome. Enjoy your Sunday.
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Hi Rob,

I notice these are 100 IS0. How did you manage that with DR400, did you use M size? I didn't think it was possible with L?

Regards,
Steve
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
. The one I have is a Chinese copy of the official Fuji item and I've had none of the fit problems mentioned elsewhere in the thread.
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Ive the chinese copy too and although it fits perfectly, i find that using cokin filters on it, light comes in through the back of the adaptor, reflects on the inside of the filter and bounces back down the lens, so at certain zooms you get a big white circle on the image. I imagine some black duct tape will sort that out but its a pain none the less.
 
essexash said:
Ive the chinese copy too and although it fits perfectly, i find that using cokin filters on it, light comes in through the back of the adaptor, reflects on the inside of the filter and bounces back down the lens, so at certain zooms you get a big white circle on the image. I imagine some black duct tape will sort that out but its a pain none the less.
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I also thought that might be a problem, but I've not been able to spot a problem in the images.
Even with the IR filter strapped to the front!
The official Fuji one has the same holes, and I guess they did their homework :thinking:

No idea why I don't seem to suffer, but you are - that's an interesting question I'd quite like to know the answer to.....
 
Doug said:
Does the Apex camera bag have a belt loop by any chance? Would it work like a 'bum bag/fanny pack' type holder?
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The video I mentioned shows the Sliplock in action.
The Apex comes with a shoulder strap, you need to supply your own waist belt; the one in my trousers works well, as does the rucksack.
The system works well on any belt type thing, the video shows it being stuck to a loop on the outside of a rucksack.
 
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