The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

It’s funny isn't it. That disc really jumped out at me yet you actively looked for them and didn't notice it on first glance. I bet another person would look at my photos and spot all sort of manner of apparitions in my camera that I don't. I guess it’s just a personal thing.

Well the whole firmware update info sounds very promising so that gives me renewed hope :D

I can be patent - especially when I am planning to spend up to 400 on a new compact - so I guess I'll lurk and learn until such time as I see if this problem is fixed. Basically I would like a new compact for my holidays this year but cannot risk my cityscapes being polluted by this phenomenon. I'm not sure how I would really post process them out due to their size (i.e. the eyes will still be drawn to oversized light objects). Best I could maybe do is add some sort of flare effect over the top to soften the disc edges to make them look more natural.

Still think the rest of the setup is outstanding. Really classy camera and full respect to all of you that are just getting on with it and having fun.
 
Finally got my hands on one, looks and feels great. Just waiting for the SD cards to arrive now as I've only got CF but will use the internal memory for a quick play.
 
Well done Dave... I'm sure you'll have loads of fun with it! :)

I've still not got around to taking a pic of the new case but I'll get one up later on this evening.

Cheers,
Si
 
well i just got my chinese knock off copy of the official fuji adaptor ring/lens hood. And while it does its job it does have a major flaw in regards to filters. The main screw on ring part has 3 ribs that extend out to the 52mm portion of the ring. The trouble is that light comes in between these ribs and with a shiney filter on in front of it, if the lens is set to anything below 85mm you get a bright light ring on the image as it reflects back into the lens. Its all down to where the lens is inside the tube as you zoom in and out. So after all that, its pretty useless unless you go over 85mm where the lens sinks far enough back into the barrel not to see the light ring.

A triumph of design over functionality! Buyer beware.

Will just have to order the heavystar version as thats a solid ring.
 
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tooooo late I've ordered one.
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Nice set of shots Andy, dont you just love the colours that the Fuji produces
 
Any examples, from anyone with an X10, for the Pro Focus Mode?
 
Thanks Duncan and I can't believe I forgot them as I am an avid reader of this thread.

I have looked at examples of a similar mode with Fuji 600 exr and Sony HX9v but ones where the camera has got very confused. Blurring parts of foreground yet keeping parts of background in focus.
 
Got news mine was dispatched today, hopefully it will be in my grubby little hands tomorrow. Ordered a leather case at the same time.

This thread should come with a financial health warning.
 
have any of you returned your camera for any reason? All of you seem like such happy bunnies it seems hard to believe!
 
I have read many folks have returned their's due to the "ORBS" but i can live with them, the good many points of this awesome bit of kit far outway the bad point "Orbs"
 
travellingcello said:
have any of you returned your camera for any reason? All of you seem like such happy bunnies it seems hard to believe!
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Anyone? :D

I'm aware posters on other forums have indicated that they returned their cameras.
Not sure why....
My experience using the X10 is that there are so many positives, that a few quirks are fine as long as they can be lived with.

I think the returnees problems can be classed as....
1) It's not DSLR quality - errrr, that's right - but it's a lot better than any other small camera I've previously played with and with just a little care it is capable of producing really decent A3 prints.
2) The controls have a few oddball quirks (On/Off gets out of phase, bemusing combinations of settings, viewfinder doesn't have focus indication, etc) - but so do most pocket cameras! - everything I've found can be lived with (and adds character).
3) Most returnees refer to the White Blob Syndrome; The best example posted in this thread is "Liverpool 1" - I'm still not convinced the large ellipses are classic WBS! (they still look like lampshades to me - you can see the supports); either way, it's still a good shot and the arguable WBS doesn't really detract from the image. Even the often quoted example in the official Fuji samples doesn't detract from the image even though it is clearly a WBS. I'd prefer the X10 didn't do the WBS thing, but it's not a deal breaker.

I hit another limitation this week... I struggled to work out how to set up the X10 for a panned action shot.
I got the shot, but it was obvious that my 5DII would have been WAY easier to use and produced far better images.
However, the shoot was unplanned and all I had in my laptop bag was my X10.
End result was that I got the shot and one of the images is now proudly displayed elsewhere on the web.
 
closer view of "WBS
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Daz
 
The orbs only appear when you have a point source of light in the frame. At 100% you can see a hard dark rim to them which is less apparent at smaller sizes. They're easily avoided by not having point sources of light in the frame. ;)

The camera has negatives, it also has plusses - like it's wide angle close up capability.

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For a compact camera it is superb.
 
i went for a walkabout after work last night around london and things went ok. Heres one in pro focus mode that i did outside St Pauls. Not bad considering i was quite a way from her



Not entire sure how to set it up for night shots. Anything over iso400 really starts to get noisy. I went on the london eye and found it next to impossible to get sharp shots. The low shutter speed with the constant moving meant blurry no matter what. Putting the iso up just made too much noise. I ended up just putting it in manual mode at iso400 and just trying to brace myself steady as much as possible, none of the Exr or Adv modes really helped. If anyone has a good setup for night work then pass on the settings :)




Orb-tatsic! but i dont care!


 
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the example Urdy put there, apart from the big one in the middle i wouldnt have the slightest problem with it. Its a shop with bright round lights, so seeing bright oval orbs doesnt look out of place. What do people expect to see? the light filaments? id love to see the same shots taken with a Nikon D3 or the Canon equiv just to get an idea of "good".
 
id love to see the same shots taken with a Nikon D3 or the Canon equiv just to get an idea of "good".
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yes please lets get a reality check on this
 
Another question - seemingly in comparisons some reviewers seem to think that Canon 's G12 outperforms the X10 for IQ.

Why did you all choose the more expensive Fuji? Looks?
 
Because we don't believe reviewers; we prefer to judge what we see from other owners. Have you not looked at the results that have been posted in this thread? Do you really think a G12 can match them?
 
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travellingcello said:
Another question - seemingly in comparisons some reviewers seem to think that Canon 's G12 outperforms the X10 for IQ.

Why did you all choose the more expensive Fuji? Looks?
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Among the things that swayed me: a viewfinder I could see through, threaded shutter release*, seemed less bulky, it felt right. Plus the images posted on here looked good enough for my needs.

* I now have a bulb release that fits, so there's only the orbs to bug me now!
 
I hit another limitation this week... I struggled to work out how to set up the X10 for a panned action shot.
I got the shot, but it was obvious that my 5DII would have been WAY easier to use and produced far better images.
However, the shoot was unplanned and all I had in my laptop bag was my X10.
End result was that I got the shot and one of the images is now proudly displayed elsewhere on the web.[/QUOTE]

Where ? I would like to see it but cannot find it ! !
 
essexash said:
i went for a walkabout after work last night around london and things went ok. Heres one in pro focus mode that i did outside St Pauls. Not bad considering i was quite a way from her



Not entire sure how to set it up for night shots. Anything over iso400 really starts to get noisy. I went on the london eye and found it next to impossible to get sharp shots. The low shutter speed with the constant moving meant blurry no matter what. Putting the iso up just made too much noise. I ended up just putting it in manual mode at iso400 and just trying to brace myself steady as much as possible, none of the Exr or Adv modes really helped. If anyone has a good setup for night work then pass on the settings :)




Orb-tatsic! but i dont care!


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I did very similar shots on my D300 a couple of years ago, with the 10-20 on and slightly earlier, before totally dark, but even with that it was a case of ISO 800ish, low shutter speeds and brace! The problem is that you have chosen a subject that is going to be bloody hard work for any camera, night time in a moving pod, two subjects that would normally require totally opposing settings. Ergo, you have to opt for a happy medium and accept that there will be some compromise somewhere. ;)
 
Tried the panorama mode this morning whilst out shooting some shots on my Hasselblad, worked very well and I will definitely use it again.

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I'm finding this whole 'WBS' thing a bit perplexing to be honest... I can't see anything in the images above that would have me worried. :)

Here's one from yesterday...

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EdBray said:
Tried the panorama mode this morning whilst out shooting some shots on my Hasselblad, worked very well and I will definitely use it again.

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I do like the panorama mode but the only niggle is that it seems to drop down to a lower res in order to make it work which is annoying. So what i do now is take individual pics bookended with a photo of my hand or something so i know where the images start and end when im looking at hundreds at home, then just stitch them in photoshop.

My local cam shop has a 500CM up for grabs at the moment, im so tempted to go and get it now. If its still there in 2 weeks when i get paid, its mine!
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
LOL - here's one I took yesterday :)
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Mine is in the Elan Valley; where's your dam?
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You're kidding me? Were you there yesterday? :)

My picture was taken from the top of the valley at the Craig Goch dam. I'm guessing yours was taken from the base of Caban Coch (which is at the bottom). :)

Next time you're coming this way, give me a shout.
Si
 
Spiritflier said:
You're kidding me? Were you there yesterday? :)

My picture was taken from the top of the valley at the Craig Goch dam. I'm guessing yours was taken from the base of Caban Coch (which is at the bottom). :)

Next time you're coming this way, give me a shout.
Si
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Spot on!
Not just me, but an actual TP Meet!
I just started the piccies thread for the meet.
Most of the day was pretty sensible by Loony Meet standards; but that changed at dusk when the temperature plummeted. It got cold enough that moss froze onto CarolineS's tripod head when she laid it on the ground. The last part of the walk down in the dark was a bit 'interesting' too...

Be interesting to see how your piccies from the day compare with ours :)
 
I actually went up for a portrait shoot rather than a landscape session... Luckily for me, the Elan Valley is only an hour away from home and makes for an incredible backdrop.

Most of what I shot yesterday was taken on the 5DMKII and the 50mm f1.4 rather than the X10 but I did manage to rattle off a few. If you'd driven up the valley past the dam you're overlooking in the group shot, you'd have found us (and possibly the best landscape location in the valley).

Hopefully, you'll be back up again soon.
 
Snapsh0t said:
Because we don't believe reviewers; we prefer to judge what we see from other owners. Have you not looked at the results that have been posted in this thread? Do you really think a G12 can match them?
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I have looked at the results on the thread obviously! However without wanting to criticise any photos, some of them have left me with a slight question mark whether I would be happy with the quality. The problem is I don't know whether those quality issues are down to user error or not. For instance I see some photos with very washed out colours - and I'm wondering whether they are JPG or RAW, or just bad processing or no processing at all.
 
The colours in a lot of my shots look muted; but that's the light I like and nothing to do with the camera.
Reviews of the X10 are pretty consistent in congratulating the X10 on it's colours.
If you like the saturated look, then the Velvia mode may be perfect for you, but quite a lot of people find it slightly OTT.
 
couple of quick shots my sister took with my fuji x10 @ Chinese new year yesterday in Manchester image Sooc

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I had a good play with Infra Red at the weekend :)
Location was the TP meet in the Elan Valley. AgentG was using an IR converted DSLR, it will be interesting to see how his compare.

My X10 IR was simply a Hoya R72 filter screwed on the front.
It works well enough for the X10 screen to show the composition, P-mode exposure seemed pretty good, Auto-focus worked as long as I aimed at something suitably contrasty and the shutter speeds were short enough that I was able to hand hold. ISO was typically ISO 2500 (in soft sunlight) which is higher than I'd like, maybe next time I'll use a tripod :)

My LR3 post processing only used the JPEGs, I've got the RAWs but haven't touched them yet. I used a custom WB set using grass as the subject, but the original JPEG was still extremely red.
All three have similar treatment in LR3, which is to drag Vibrance to the extreme left, plus Saturation about half way towards the left, plus increase Contrast plus increase Clarity.
This has produced nice punchy images that are nearly monochrome. It also seems to have brought out the grain, but I like the look; the lone tree image I played with the settings to enhance the grain rather than hide it.

1) IR bridge and generator house.
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2) IR woodland path we followed along the edge of the lake.
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3) IR lone tree - grain enhanced as much as I could using LR3.
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It'll be interesting to hear what you lot think.
I was pleasantly surprised...

The only negative comment from the whole experience was that MF was a nightmare!
As well as the usual MF hassle on the X10 (widely reported and hopefully fixed in the firmware upgrade), I was also battling the challenge that Infinity in IR is not the same as infinity for visible light. Worse than that, I think from my observations that the IR infinity distance setting is different at every focal length!
As soon as I discovered Auto-Focus worked I stopped using MF.
 
Finally received my SD cards today, which was a shame because I really wanted to put the X10 through its paces in London for CNY yesterday, but never mind. Having not used a compact for years now, it's a bit strange not having the focal points in the viewfinder but I'm sure I'll get used to it. I still haven't had a good chance to use it yet but I'll get working on it. We're off to Disneyworld for a couple of weeks soon, I doubt I'll be confident enough to leave the D700's at home but I won't be lugging one around like I did last year for the whole two weeks.

This is more for the wife but I'm eager to see what the little fella can do. I'm strictly a RAW man but looking at some of the sooc JPEGs on display in this thread, I doubt there will be much in it.
 
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