The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

DuncanDisorderly said:
LOL - I posted this (not in quite a s much detail) way back in Dec - see the Llanthony Priory lightpainting shots.
30s is a major challenge for lightpainting!
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I did go a bit overboard, I'm sure I could have said that in fewer words! :lol:
As soon as I can get my hands on a cheap ND filter I'm going to be taking more long exposures and I'm glad that I can use ISO100 for the 30" exposures.

Luckily I'm just about avoiding lusting after the x100 purely because of the fixed lens and the fact that even though it is fixed it is still FBW. I am however lusting after a leica M9 but that is waaaaaaaaay out of my financial league. I've always wondered "why don't they make a camera which just has a shutter dial, an aperture dial, an iso button and a full frame sensor" well now they've made it and its bloody expensive. Why do we pay so much for so little? :lol:
 
I would actually be happy with a full frame sensor, aperture priority only and no rear screen or additional buttons.
I get more enjoyment from using my old Olympus OM10 than any digital camera. If only it had a sensor and memory card to write to instead of film I wouldn't need anything else.
 
ernesto said:
I would actually be happy with a full frame sensor, aperture priority only and no rear screen or additional buttons.
I get more enjoyment from using my old Olympus OM10 than any digital camera. If only it had a sensor and memory card to write to instead of film I wouldn't need anything else.
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I think many share your dream. Although I'd like shutter priority and manual options too.:)
 
X10 has been ordered :)
£320 delivered from Fuji Refurb Shop.

Ordered a nice leather wrist strap from fleabay so just need a decent little bag now.
Any recommendations?
 
There is a new and mint offical £60 case in the classifieds section, going for £28 delivered.
 
I'm thinking about getting the black rapid snapr
Bit expensive though
 
jamin100 said:
I'm thinking about getting the black rapid snapr
Bit expensive though
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Looks nice, not expensive compared the gariz half leather case.
 
jondc said:
Looks nice, not expensive compared the gariz half leather case.
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That's true, I might just buy it as I had a black rapid clone for my d90 and it was excellent
 
Good point, I hadn't spotted that and the imitation is so good I was completely fooled (it even has a leather smell)!

But material aside, it is a very sturdy and well fitting case that doesn't attach to the camera/come in two pieces (I didn't want one of those) and is a very good price.
 
For what its worth Jamin100;

For my camera I got the Kaza vintage case. I posted the pictures earlier in this thread but I negotiated it for £70 - this is halfway house on price as the Gariz half case is more than everything you get with the Kaza. It has a half case, beautiful strap and a full case cover that fits the adapter and lens hood. They hand make them to order and I have to say I'm very impressed with the quality. From order to receipt it took about three weeks. Can be found here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X10C-UK-K..._Camera_Cases_Bags_Covers&hash=item2570113ee5)

To put my camera case inside I have a smallish national geographic bag that takes the extra batteries, an array of cokin filters and other bits like cards, phone, wallet. I got this for about £15 from EBAY (http://www.amazon.co.uk/National-Geographic-Small-Shoulder-Bag/dp/B000LY5CUS)

Oh and I see a larger version is currently on sale for 9.99 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Nat...Tickets_Travel_Luggage_CA&hash=item2ebe206e69)

Good luck deciding - one thing is for certain. There's no shortage of options of the X10 :)
 
ernesto said:
Good point, I hadn't spotted that and the imitation is so good I was completely fooled (it even has a leather smell)!

But material aside, it is a very sturdy and well fitting case that doesn't attach to the camera/come in two pieces (I didn't want one of those) and is a very good price.
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You should post some pics when you get the case, sounds like a good deal
Allan
 
I've been looking at the Match Technical stuff for a while now but the prices are just too extortionate! :(

If it was cheaper, I'd definitely go for one of the 'Thumbs Up' grips although if they decide to make one with contacts that run straight through to the hotshoe, I'll probably end up biting the bullet! :)
 
EXR mode straight out of the camera!

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Although I'm still not overly convinced that this will be the right camera for me, I do keep coming back to it as one of the few possible options. But one thing I do find a bit strange is that Fuji don't seem to offer a SuperWarranty option like they do for many of their other camera's - at least I can't find it in the drop-down list on their shop site.

Paul
 
cube said:
I did some post processing on this one. May be too much? But the sky really was that moody. Do others find that they often want to up the sharpness on the jpegs?

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Fantastic shot, what was it like pre-pp ? There seems to be quite a bit of noise/artifacts on the lower part of the sky, I'd love to see how the x10 coped with this straight from the camera.
 
paul williams said:
Although I'm still not overly convinced that this will be the right camera for me, I do keep coming back to it as one of the few possible options.
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I'm in a similar boat. The very quick play I've had with one impressed me, I've got the funds, and I still use fixed lenses regularly.

I just wonder if I'll get enough use from it to justify it's cost, as I'm also considering a DSLR upgrade. It's also not pocket sized, so it's still a "conciously taking with me" thing rather than a compact that I can have with me all the time with no bother.
 
HMansfield said:
I'm in a similar boat. The very quick play I've had with one impressed me, I've got the funds, and I still use fixed lenses regularly.

I just wonder if I'll get enough use from it to justify it's cost, as I'm also considering a DSLR upgrade. It's also not pocket sized, so it's still a "conciously taking with me" thing rather than a compact that I can have with me all the time with no bother.
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I think at the present time there are always compromises when buying a compact camera. Their physical size alone means that they will have limitations and most of the kit lenses on other systems are slow and optically inferior. In the end the X 10 ticked more boxes that the others and I've never regretted my purchase. It's such a relief not having to carry a DSLR around on a recreational outing!

I've found a handy way of transporting my X10 - I've invested in a Gariz Gunshot Strap which is beautifully crafted and enables me to carry the camera across my body comfortably under a coat or jacket, and I don't have to remove the coat to use the camera because of the functionality of the slingshot strap. I can leave it on all day. Something to consider, anyway.
 
Ed Sutton said:
That depends on your pockets. ;)
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Yes! My X10 works OK in a large jacket pocket, although it can be a problem to get out (eg the lens cap sometimes comes off). We're visiting a warmer place and I think I'm going to have to carry it! Taking a slimmer P&S as well in case but I'm hoping not to have to use it...
 
Quick question, I'm about to return to sea again for a few months. I'm reluctant to take my DSLR system with me, weight and room bring the main issue.

Just wondered if you can give me an unbiased view of the X10, pros / cons. On paper it looks impressive.

Many thanks,

Nick
 
Nick, that really depends on how you use a DSLR so impossible to tell you your pros and cons.

However, compared to other compacts (and I have owned a few competitors)

Pros
IQ - good for sensor size
Lens - quality and also a useful range
Handling (lens zooming on barrel rather than button, size and weight)
Build
Viewfinder (the fact it has one although many don't feel it is good enough but that is unrealistic given price)
Focusing speed
Shutter lag

Cons
Viewfinder - no info so you may miss a lot from DSLR

Others can add to the cons and there are probably loads when comparing to a DSLR but that to me is a pointless comparison. It is not marketed as a DSLR replacement it is just a very nice compact.
 
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I agree when people say you shouldn't compare it to a DSLR. It's not trying to be a replacement DSLR; Its not like its one of the micro 4/3rd cameras which are trying to be DSLR replacements.

Its a high-end compact, you should compare it to other compacts, in which case the pros and cons come in at:

Pros:
Bigger sensor
Better IQ
Better lens quality, much easier to use the zoom function.
More flexibility when it comes to manual/semi-automatic modes (P,S&A modes)
Ability to shoot RAW
Comes with a viewfinder
Allows you to put a lens-hood and filters in front of the lens.
Fast AF and minimal shutter lag.
The list really does go on.

Cons:
Larger than a standard compact
More expensive than your average compact
That's about is compared to a compact.

You have to look at this camera in the right way. It is never going to replace your DSLR if you're a professional but that isn't what this camera is for, it was never ever designed or marketed as a DSLR replacement. What is was designed and marketed for was to blow all other compacts out of the water, which is does very well indeed.
 
Hi Guys, thanks for your help so far. I realise this is a completely different genre from DSLRs. Perhaps I should have asked the question 'will this give me the same control and creativity that DSLR will offer?'

Do you find the offset viewfinder to be reasonably accurate or is there a lot of parallax error exemplified in the 1960's Leica? I just wonder how far these have come in terms of autofocus, exposure and image accuracy in the viewfinder?

Many thanks for your help, this is looking like quite a good option for me, particularly when weight and space is limited. However, I don't wish to compromise on image quality, which is what it's all about for me.

Many thanks,

Nick
 
Blank_Canvas said:
I just wonder how far these have come in terms of autofocus, exposure and image accuracy in the viewfinder?
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May be misreading what you are asking, but the X10 viewfinder is purely optical so autofocus and exposure are not shown in viewfinder whereas image accuracy is exact as it is just looking through glass with no electronic display.
 
Blank_Canvas said:
Hi Guys, thanks for your help so far. I realise this is a completely different genre from DSLRs. Perhaps I should have asked the question 'will this give me the same control and creativity that DSLR will offer?'

Do you find the offset viewfinder to be reasonably accurate or is there a lot of parallax error exemplified in the 1960's Leica? I just wonder how far these have come in terms of autofocus, exposure and image accuracy in the viewfinder?

Many thanks for your help, this is looking like quite a good option for me, particularly when weight and space is limited. However, I don't wish to compromise on image quality, which is what it's all about for me.

Many thanks,

Nick
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It will give you control so long as you treat it right. You may at first be a bit frustrated because things won't work the way you think they should but after a little bit of playing a reading (plenty of info in this thread) you learn what you can and can't do, and there are usually very good reasons for why you can't do that particular thing with those particular settings. One of the biggest gripes people find is that the shutter values won't show up in Aperture-priority and they can't for the life of them work out why. The reason is because you need to have manual ISO and DR. If you had auto ISO for example, the shutter speed won't have been determined until you press the shutter anyway, but if you use manual ISO the camera can show you the correct shutter speed for that particular moment.

Certainly in terms of creativity you get a lot of options and you may find that because it is smaller and lighter and is easier to keep with you at all times you find more opportunities to take photographs than you would with a larger heavier DSLR. One thing you may not like thought is it will be harder to get shallow depth of field because of the smaller sensor size unless you get closer/use a longer focal length. That said, you do get a really amazing macro mode on the X10 (and when the marketing says you can focus from as little as a centimetre, they really mean it, it really is that good).

For me, the viewfinder only gets parallax errors when shooting macro, but I prefer to use the viewscreen in macro anyway. It does take a bit of getting used to the 85% coverage. you can line up a box perfectly with the edges of the viewfinder but on the actual photograph there will be more around the box. I have learnt to adapt to it and use the viewfinder almost exclusively but you do have to practise a little bit.
The viewfinder is purely optical, it shows no information whatsoever (no exposure or focus indicators) but it is large, bright and very clear. Plus it has a diopter which is handy for some.
 
If you don't want to compromise on image quality in a compact camera, the X10 is probably your best option. Think of the viewfinder as a bonus extra to help you on a sunny day when the rear screen is washed out
Then, learn to use the plain optical viewfinder like a lot of us used to many years ago before anyone had heard of digital, and it's surprisingly easy to gauge where the focus point is and take perfectly exposed well focused images.
Allan
 
Its on days like today the D90 would have never been with me, yet with the X10 I took 40 images.

For my case I just use a Deisel Born Canvas shoulder bag, its small, holds the camera, flash, spare batteries, small tripod and cards.

It is also inconspicuous as a camera bag. http://thecarry.com/bags/diesel-uriel-ii-pouch/

Just one whilst out and about today and of course the X10 was with me. Cropped and vignetted in LR3.



Flower by Jonnydee9, on Flickr
 
I post out my D90 to its new home tomorrow and my x10 should hopefully arrive too

Excited :)
 
Thank you. I never used the live view on my DSLR having learnt photography per-digital both at Art College and the forces in the 80s.

Setting the ISO to me is the first logistical step in the photographic processes before loading the film. So it's good that the X10 will allow you to do this. The fact that you can shoot in RAW is a real bonus.

Hopefully I'll adapt to it very quickly like a fish out of water.

Sounds the perfect travel companion and aesthetically I quite like the retro look. I think I'll shop around for a good buy. Many thanks for your help.
 
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