The New Doctor ...

This is where it gets interesting - Doctor's daughter (Jenny) was played by Peter Davison's daughter, she is now married to David Tennant and they have a child together.....
 
Ron Dough said:
Doesn't that make two? (The other being his granddaughter Susan, the eponymous heroine of the first-ever episode, An Unearthly Child, which I'm old enough to have been able to have seen, but for the fact that I was at boarding school at the time.)
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I have not watched The Unearthly Child, if there was a re-run, I guess I missed it, hopefully there should be a re-run of it this year for the 50th, then again, I could try DVD, so I don't really know much about Susan. I know she is the Doctor's granddaughter, therefore she could be a Time Lady, but she's not really like the Doctor, she's not The Doctor. Don't forget that if she is a granddaughter, that would mean Susan got her own parents, and one of her parents comes from The Doctor and whoever he was married to. That means Susan have the DNA from The Doctor, her grandmother, her mother, her father.

Jenny on the other hand is more like a clone of The Doctor, directly from the Doctor's DNA, and only just from The Doctor himself, Jenny don't have another DNA from anyone else (not counting all the other DNAs from The Doctor's families before him), and she had proven herself to be a Time Lady, but here's the thing, she shares the same sort of feelings as The Doctor do, she don't have direct copies of The Doctor's memories but she may have some parts of The Doctor's personality, the need to go to other worlds, save others, and the running. She seems to be more alike to The Doctor.

Therefore Jenny is more like the nearest thing we have to a female Doctor Who.
 
This all presupposes that Time Lords'/Ladies' DNA behaves in a similar fashion to that of human beings, whereas in practice it can behave according to the whim of whatever creative team is dealing with it at the time and their interpretation and realignment of the back- (and presumably front-!) story.

Despite the obvious differences, there must be a certain compatibility with human DNA, since we know that hybridisation is not only possible, but is itself capable of reproduction. The possibilities are infinite....;)
 
Is he 12th or really 13th? Where does John Hurt come into it?

I think he'll be fab (I liked Eccleston most of the new doctors). BUT, if it came to a choice between watching Dr Who, or watching Boris Johnson in a vat of boiling oil, I would have to sacrifice the doctor.
 
welshwizard645 said:
This is where it gets interesting - Doctor's daughter (Jenny) was played by Peter Davison's daughter, she is now married to David Tennant and they have a child together.....
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And he adopted her daughter too.
 
Headless Lois said:
Is he 12th or really 13th? Where does John Hurt come into it?

I think he'll be fab (I liked Eccleston most of the new doctors). BUT, if it came to a choice between watching Dr Who, or watching Boris Johnson in a vat of boiling oil, I would have to sacrifice the doctor.
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;)
 
Headless Lois said:
Is he 12th or really 13th? Where does John Hurt come into it?
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Hmmmmmmm.....

That seems to answer my question (see my earlier post on page 1)....

Peter is going to be the 12th Doctor.

So if he dies, he can regenerate for the 12th time, into the 13th Doctor which will be John.

Therefore John is going to be the last even Doctor, if the Time Lord legend is that 13th is death, that means the 13th Doctor dies, not the 12th Doctor.
 
A previous time lord (known to us humans as The Master) has already managed to cheat the limited regeneration issue, though I'm not sure that The Doctor would be prepared to go to the same lengths, (usurping the power of a black hole and nearly distroying Gallifrey in the process) I'm sure a solution will be found!
 
I'm sure they won't let a little thing like " their legend" get in the way of
a successful series /money spinner.
There will an answer I'm sure ;)
 
turbotoes said:
A previous time lord (known to us humans as The Master) has already managed to cheat the limited regeneration issue, though I'm not sure that The Doctor would be prepared to go to the same lengths, (usurping the power of a black hole and nearly distroying Gallifrey in the process) I'm sure a solution will be found!
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I don't think so.

If I remember rightly...

The Master got shot by Lucy, The Doctor went and held The Master, The Doctor begs him to regenerate. This would imply that The Doctor knows how many times The Master had regenerated and that the number of regenerations The Master had would be well within the 12 regenerations rule, hence The Doctor is expecting The Master to regenerate. This would imply that The Master had not used up his limited number of regenerations, therefore there is no point for him to cheat the limited regenerations.

The reason The Master did not regenerate was that he wanted to die and leave The Doctor being the only last ever Time Lord. It would imply that Time Lords and Ladies can either regenerate 12 times or chose to not bothered with it and die early instead of die at the end of the 13th life (after 12 regenerations, you are in your 13th life but it is your last as you can't regenerate for the 13th time). It was The Master's way of hurting The Doctor.

If I understood correctly, I think it was the Time Lords, specially that guy Rossan (spelling? played by Timothy Dalton), who knew that The Master had die early, so they attempted to bring him back alive, maybe because if you have not used up your 12 regenerations, you can still be bought back alive, and because The Master was part of their plans to bring their homeworld out of the time-locked Time War.

The Master being bought back alive had nothing to do with The Master himself, it was to do with Rossan, so The Master did not cheat. He didn't plan it.
 
Major Eazy said:
I don't think so.

If I remember rightly...

The Master got shot by Lucy, The Doctor went and held The Master, The Doctor begs him to regenerate. This would imply that The Doctor knows how many times The Master had regenerated and that the number of regenerations The Master had would be well within the 12 regenerations rule, hence The Doctor is expecting The Master to regenerate. This would imply that The Master had not used up his limited number of regenerations, therefore there is no point for him to cheat the limited regenerations.

The reason The Master did not regenerate was that he wanted to die and leave The Doctor being the only last ever Time Lord. It would imply that Time Lords and Ladies can either regenerate 12 times or chose to not bothered with it and die early instead of die at the end of the 13th life (after 12 regenerations, you are in your 13th life but it is your last as you can't regenerate for the 13th time). It was The Master's way of hurting The Doctor.

If I understood correctly, I think it was the Time Lords, specially that guy Rossan (spelling? played by Timothy Dalton), who knew that The Master had die early, so they attempted to bring him back alive, maybe because if you have not used up your 12 regenerations, you can still be bought back alive, and because The Master was part of their plans to bring their homeworld out of the time-locked Time War.

The Master being bought back alive had nothing to do with The Master himself, it was to do with Rossan, so The Master did not cheat. He didn't plan it.
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Err, you need to watch "The Deadly Assassin"
 
turbotoes said:
Err, you need to watch "The Deadly Assassin"
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Oh no, don't tell me there's plot holes in the series? I don't recall The Deadly Assassin so I assume it's one of the very earlier series? Okay, so what happens in The Deadly Assassin?
 
Great to see Capaldi's career finally take off. It has always been clear he has been a great actor, but for some reason he has never really taken any 'big' roles (Some people forget that The Thick of It of It started as a micro-budget BBC4 programme).

I am not a Who fan in the slightest, but I am a 'The Thick of It' obsessive (in fact, I am an obsessive of anything Armando Iannucci puts his name to - Alpha Papa is superb by the way, go and see it), but I will be defiantly be watching now that they have got their hands on this piece of gold
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I hope that this big casting doesn't mean he will start turing down roles on little BBC4 Shows, and I hope that he doesn't stick at being the Doctor for too long so that he can quickly return to his real talent - comedy.

By the, if you find The Thick of It too sweary to watch, but still want to see some of Capaldi's comedy, hunt down 'The Cricklewood Greats' online (a one off BBC4 show that very few know about), he's very funny and family friendly in that.

Cheers,

Sid.
 
Can't get into this guy as the Doctor. Dunno what you lot think. And the current version of the theme music is appalling.
 
I don't think anyone will ever replace Rossi, oh sorry, wrong Doctor.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Can't get into this guy as the Doctor. Dunno what you lot think. And the current version of the theme music is appalling.
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I hope they have a suitable replacement in mind for the lovely Gemma Coleman, she's the only reason I'm still watching at the moment. Nothing against Capaldi, but he just isn't the Doctor, maybe it's because the seasons seem too short and too far apart, giving little time to get used to him. It just seems to be on in the background now.
 
I like Capaldi as the Doctor (in fact, he's good in everything I've seen him in) and I think the writing team are getting used to writing for him - this series is already looking better than the last one.
There's also lots of nods to other sci-fi works going on - this week' 'bootstrap theory' was reminding me of Behold the Man.
 
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Happy that they seem to have got rid of the sonic screw driver which was becoming more and more like a magic wand that was waved around to solve problems. Totally p***ed off that it has been replaced by sonic sunglasses however.
 
Penfold711 said:
Totally p***ed off that it has been replaced by sonic sunglasses however.
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Not watched it in years, but does he now have a sonic ( the) hedgehog as a pet?
(Sorry :coat: )
 
Nod said:
You mean Jon Pertwee has been struck off?
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Bring back William Hartnell, and don't say he's dead, he's a time traveller, he can do what ever he wants :thumbs:
 
Of course, being SO much older than me means that your Doctor is an earlier incarnation (or whatever it's called in Gallifreyan!) than mine! Tom Baker was also acceptable but they should have killed it off just before Sylvester McCoy took the role. IMO, of course!
 
I think the current Doctor is OK, but I have trouble understanding the stories :confused: :(
 
Llamaman said:
I like Capaldi as the Doctor (in fact, he's good in everything I've seen him in) and I think the writing team are getting used to writing for him - this series is already looking better than the last one.
There's also lots of nods to other sci-fi works going on - this week' 'bootstrap theory' was reminding me of Behold the Man.
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It was nice to see them finally acknowledge the ontological paradox, which is a feature of many time travel stories. There was (for example) one in Blink which went unacknowledged. Still my favourite episode since they bought Dr Who back though.

And I like Capaldi too.
 
Je pense donc peut etre je suis mais peut etre je ne suis pas. :vanishesinapuffoflogic:
 
Nod said:
Je pense donc peut etre je suis mais peut etre je ne suis pas. :vanishesinapuffoflogic:
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je pense donc je suis
 
Ego sum, ego existo is more correct apparently (although the phrase was translated to Latin from the French version.)
 
Less uncomfortable than Planet DP?
 
I see it's being reported that the next series will be Capaldi's last.

I won't miss him.
 
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