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Ok. I've had enough. I'm forming my own vigilante group. I think I posted a thread about noisy neighbours before, well, the problem has not gone away. The landlord of the property below us rents out his flat himself and not through a letting agent. Given that this man is a complete moron, most of the people that rent his flat are morons too. I almost went downstairs to confront them but my wife had to stop me... normally I'm quite calm but last night I blew my top. They were singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' and what sounded like golf balls being bounced on a wooden floor and against the walls... till around 1am.

What's more frustrating is the landlord has been sent countless letters, the environmental people have been round there countless times and still the problem persists. They can't do anything... they're completely useless. It's like police officers without guns. "Stop! Or we'll shout stop again!".

It's got to the point where I'm starting to see the beginning of the human race being split genetically into two groups. Nice people, and ****ing stupid people... and at some point in the future there's going to be a big war to decide who lives under ground and who lives above ground... like what happens in the Time Machine movie.

I just want to rant. This is going to be my rant thread.
 
I have a similar problem ( well almost)
The miserable git that lives in the flat above
keeps whining 'bout me and my mates having a little sing song every now and again,

and who doesn't like crazy golf? well obviously the guy upstairs :(

I can see the human race being split into two factions at this rate
The "life's moaners" and the "life's enjoyers"

The moaners can go live underground and the enjoyers can rejoice in the
world and everything that life has to offer :cool: :thumbs:




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I have a similar problem ( well almost)
The miserable git that lives in the flat above
keeps whining 'bout me and my mates having a little sing song every now and again,

and who doesn't like crazy golf? well obviously the guy upstairs :(

I can see the human race being split into two factions at this rate
The "life's moaners" and the "life's enjoyers"

The moaners can go live underground and the enjoyers can rejoice in the
world and everything that life has to offer :cool: :thumbs:




:lol: :lol: :lol:



*sharpens axe*
 
In all seriousness though, having noisy neighbours, who aren't noisy now and then, but pretty much every evening, is a pretty stressful thing to have to live with, and no one should have to live with it. There is a difference between enjoying yourself and enjoying yourself while respecting those around you.
 
I am sure your right and it was just a leg pull
Thankfully the near neighbours are mostly retired and as you would imagine
pretty quiet.
I guess that it would be awful having to listen to their crap day
and half the night.
You would have thought that E.H.O. would do something, after all thats
part of their remit ( noise pollution)

IIRC You are supposed to keep a diary
of times dates and decibels ( if possible) then have "another go" at the local authority.
 
I am sure your right and it was just a leg pull
Thankfully the near neighbours are mostly retired and as you would imagine
pretty quiet.
I guess that it would be awful having to listen to their crap day
and half the night.
You would have thought that E.H.O. would do something, after all thats
part of their remit ( noise pollution)

IIRC You are supposed to keep a diary
of times dates and decibels ( if possible) then have "another go" at the local authority.

:plusone: all what Cobra said. Have you contcted the council yet? If I was you I would make recordings of the sounds if possible. This can be presented as evidence when speaking to the EHO. The diary is also very NB. Ultimately the Council can get a noise abatement notice issued if needs be and if they have sufficient evidence.
 
Thanks folks. Working on it. The 5d2 picks up noise like no ones business so will be using that next time. We're keeping a diary. It's got to the point where we're considering moving. No one should have to do that.
 
I feel your pain KayJay. We have neighboours at the back of us (their back garden backs onto ours) who seem to do nothing but party until the early hours. I'm no killjoy, but when they party on until 2.30am and my OH has to be up for work at 6am, it's not funny. We were rudely awoken the other night by someone playing guitar and singing at 2am. I'll give them credit - they were good - but having to be on call 24/7 for a full week with only a couple of hours sleep because of inconsiderate b******* is no fun. We have their address now, so are just waiting for the next party that keeps us awake, then we'll call the police.
 
have you tried just having a chat with them? a real honest one not a shouty shouty one

its really hard to ignore someone when they are angry in the heat of the moment but its much harder to not listen to someone who is pleading with you, when your all sober about the issues you are causing in their life

perhaps they are just idiots who will be completely unreceptive and make you wish you had never bothered but just maybe they will understand and take your feeling into consideration a bit more

i think, in this life, we spend too much time waiting for an organisation to deal with our problems and not enough time dealing with them ourselves

good luck xx
 
have you tried just having a chat with them? a real honest one not a shouty shouty one

its really hard to ignore someone when they are angry in the heat of the moment but its much harder to not listen to someone who is pleading with you, when your all sober about the issues you are causing in their life

perhaps they are just idiots who will be completely unreceptive and make you wish you had never bothered but just maybe they will understand and take your feeling into consideration a bit more

i think, in this life, we spend too much time waiting for an organisation to deal with our problems and not enough time dealing with them ourselves

good luck xx

The problem is drink most of the time with people like that. I used to have a housemate that would always apologise for making noise the night before ("really sorry, I promise it won't happen again" type) after I ask him not to. Then he'd get drunk again and do it all over again...

Sometimes there is no getting through to people like that, they just are inconsiderate b********, far more interested in having fun than thinking how they affect others.:bang:
 
When I lived in a flat there was a las upstairs who was, sheall we say, "popular" sometimes with two or three blokes at a time. One night it got the better of me and I kicked her door in and offered to quiteten them down with a baseball bat. I had peace and quiet for three months after that. Should have been eight months but I got time off for good behaviour.
 
I feel your pain on this one, Kayjay. Them lots next door to me makes enough noise to wake up the dead. If it's not the two teenage boys, it's the unemployed mother being on wine and dope and generally being loud, and if it's not the mother, it's their two Jack Russell dogs. Then they invite friends for all nighter BBQs in summer and get-together indoors in the winter.
That house is actually the only council-house in a street of privately owned homes - and my house just happen to be right next to it! Even worse that they have no carpets at all throughout their house - including the stairs which is right next to my hobby room. It sounds like a herd of elephants charging through next door as they migrate south.
So, yes, noisy neighbours are rubbish things and it infuriates me that the law seem to provide more protection for them than people like me who work hard in a full job to keep a nice house and just generally keeping myself to myself.

Thankfully, today seem to be one of the quieter better days (probably because the mother is sleeping it off and the boys are out in the town center terrorising passer-bys and yes they got caught for doing that) but one of these days I'm gonna lose it and all hell will break loose with them lots. And don't suggest I should move houses as I've lived in my home for the past 27 years. It's them lots that should be kicked out of their house (found out that they're 3 months behind with the rent) and shipped off to an eastern European country.
 
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In all seriousness though, having noisy neighbours, who aren't noisy now and then, but pretty much every evening, is a pretty stressful thing to have to live with, and no one should have to live with it. There is a difference between enjoying yourself and enjoying yourself while respecting those around you.

Yeah i have one of them, many a dispute, i actually called the Police once after goignt through the council about 9 times saying they may want to send a Police car around in a couple of minutes because theres going to be a murder, as i had had enough 5 days without any sleep. I was shouting down the phone while getting dressed, by the time i had got of the phone, she had run out of the flat to her car.

Shes not been quite as bad since, but still not good, i have to turn the tv double that i would do normally if she wasnt there, and that is now starting to **** the neighbours off. I would move, but having a morgage like i have at the moment i dont stand a chance.
 
I really feel for you on this.

We had the same problem a few years ago. The couple who lived opposite us split up and moved out. While their house was on the market they let their 2 teenage kids and a couple of their mates rent it off them.

I'm not a miserable old git . . . I'm not even that old. But when you have to get up for work, parties starting at 8pm and going on until 4 or 5am every other night really start to grate on you. Sleep deprivation does funny things to you too. I seriously had to hold myself back from storming in there and tearing their stereo out of the wall on a couple of occasions.

And when it came to talking to them you may as well have been talking to the wall :bang:
Absolutely no respect or consideration for anyone else.

We did get a resolution in the end . . . but it's not going to be one that you want.
They had a firework party on Nov 5th. In their stupidity they set the fireworks off on the patio about a foot away from the house. A stray rocket landed in the guttering on the roof. . . the unmaintained guttering, full of dry, dead leaves.

Result being the roof and entire first floor totally destroyed. 3 fire engines in the street, neighbours on either side of them evacuated from their houses. All in all a complete mess . . .
 
Lived in a flat once in london (never again will I live in a flat). It was a very expensive one and I could hear the flat through the wall switch the light on and off and running water, walking on floors the whole hog. I sold it for an obscene amount of money and really felt sorry for the new buyers but well was their choice, same as it had been mine.
 
well I for one will stay on top. I mean who would want to be underground with all them Golf Balls bouncing about? :shrug:
 
In all seriousness though, having noisy neighbours, who aren't noisy now and then, but pretty much every evening, is a pretty stressful thing to have to live with,

I would agree with that, but on the other hand what can be worse, is when they are noisy randomly, as your always on tenterhooks waiting for the next time, but i have experienced both as i also live in a flat and it can be horrendous, at the moment i'm lucky as the neighbours i have are fairly quite, apart from the natural noise ie walking about,washing machines etc, which to be fair is nothing major and which you have to tolerate if you live in a flat, and sometimes houses these days the way there thrown up, here's hoping it stays that way, and i really do hope you get it sorted KJ
 
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i think, in this life, we spend too much time waiting for an organisation to deal with our problems and not enough time dealing with them ourselves

But when you read stuff in the papers about people being stabbed or attacked for trying to deal with problems, it makes you not want to confront anyone.
 
My brother in Exeter has a similar problem - smelly students next door who party all night and loaf around til lectures in the afternoon...
Bro's solution is simple - he goes round during the evening to ask then to quieten down (which they usually do for 5 minutes on and off until about 04.00) and then, when he goes to work at 06.00 he rings the doorbell repeatedly until they answer and then stands there reminding them not to do it again...

He says the lack of sleep is compensated for by the looks on their faces at realising what dawn looks like...
 
contrary to popular belief, the number of stabbings and random acts of crime has barely gone up since the victorian ages

if your that worried, write a nice note and pop that through the door - explaining your situation in a civil way (Not suggesting you wouldnt be civil at all, only sometimes people can get angry when writing about something they are passionate about and to bear that in mind)

the thing is, they probably dont know that they are causing so much distress, and if they have heard about it then it will be from the landlord to them about you, rather than a person to person thing... therefore its very easy to forget that person has a name, face or is real!

a couple of months ago i was lying in bed, fast asleep and there was a knock at the door, it was two kids (cant have been more than 17) at 2am on a monday night, the kids claimed my friend Mitch owed them money and demanded entry to the house, i asked them to leave and come back in the morning and they kicked in my front door.

Then, they stood there, weilding knives and i think one had a walking stick tucked under his jacket with the top pointing out. In my hallway at 2am on a monday morning. i stood their with my hair all a mess in my bathrobe and i just looked at them. Actually looked at them, i was petrified but i didnt show that and i just looked at them, and they couldnt deal with it. they ran away eventually after asking me 'are you going to give us some money' and me replying 'i dont have any money, are you going to hurt me now?' all very calm.

they didnt know what to do, the weapons shook and they faltered and ran

what you have to remember is certainly parts of our society have very rarely had to deal with polite, calm and reasonable people, its a far better defence than shouting, waving and getting irrate - because they are used to that.

these are a people who have spent their lives being shouted at, their walks around town have been full of horrid looks and people crossing the road to avoid them.

so many people hid their personalities and their human-ness from these people out of fear

when really that human-ness is our best defence against them. They find it very easy to listen to music all night, get drunk and cause trouble or attack someone who is faceless, scared or angry - but someone who is calm and human

they just dont know what to do

i have had two situations where people have tried to rob my home and both times they have left when i have asked them too

i imagine it would be different if i were in a bigger city like London or Bristol where the drugs are harder and the skulls are thicker - but round here at least, a little bit of human contact goes a long long way.
 
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contrary to popular belief, the number of stabbings and random acts of crime has barely gone up since the victorian ages

if your that worried, write a nice note and pop that through the door - explaining your situation in a civil way (Not suggesting you wouldnt be civil at all, only sometimes people can get angry when writing about something they are passionate about and to bear that in mind)

the thing is, they probably dont know that they are causing so much distress, and if they have heard about it then it will be from the landlord to them about you, rather than a person to person thing... therefore its very easy to forget that person has a name, face or is real!

a couple of months ago i was lying in bed, fast asleep and there was a knock at the door, it was two kids (cant have been more than 17) at 2am on a monday night, the kids claimed my friend Mitch owed them money and demanded entry to the house, i asked them to leave and come back in the morning and they kicked in my front door.

Then, they stood there, weilding knives and i think one had a walking stick tucked under his jacket with the top pointing out. In my hallway at 2am on a monday morning. i stood their with my hair all a mess in my bathrobe and i just looked at them. Actually looked at them, i was petrified but i didnt show that and i just looked at them, and they couldnt deal with it. they ran away eventually after asking me 'are you going to give us some money' and me replying 'i dont have any money, are you going to hurt me now?' all very calm.

they didnt know what to do, the weapons shook and they faltered and ran

what you have to remember is certainly parts of our society have very rarely had to deal with polite, calm and reasonable people, its a far better defence than shouting, waving and getting irrate - because they are used to that.

these are a people who have spent their lives being shouted at, their walks around town have been full of horrid looks and people crossing the road to avoid them.

so many people hid their personalities and their human-ness from these people out of fear

when really that human-ness is our best defence against them. They find it very easy to listen to music all night, get drunk and cause trouble or attack someone who is faceless, scared or angry - but someone who is calm and human

they just dont know what to do

i have had two situations where people have tried to rob my home and both times they have left when i have asked them too

i imagine it would be different if i were in a bigger city like London or Bristol where the drugs are harder and the skulls are thicker - but round here at least, a little bit of human contact goes a long long way.

Interesting post, thanks for writing and sharing that. You are absolutely right about keeping a calm head, it's the most important thing when attempting some form of conflict resolution. I'm lucky in that I do have a level head and am usually one of the most passive people you'll meet (except on the internet forums). I may try this. The lady that lives on the ground floor spoke to them previously about another incident and they apologized to her. I asked how approachable they were and she said that I shouldn't hesitate to talk to them. I know where the two tenants work, and one of them I've spoken to in the past without knowing he was living under us. I may try and speak to one of them in passing next time I see them.
 
sounds good, i wouldnt rule out just popping round there though, maybe on a monday afternoon after work when they are all in and making dinner or something

i cant imagine they will be very rude to you, just make yourself a person, rather than a name on a complaint letter from the landlord or a faceless observer

good luck :)
 
My brother in Exeter has a similar problem - smelly students next door who party all night and loaf around til lectures in the afternoon...
Bro's solution is simple - he goes round during the evening to ask then to quieten down (which they usually do for 5 minutes on and off until about 04.00) and then, when he goes to work at 06.00 he rings the doorbell repeatedly until they answer and then stands there reminding them not to do it again...

He says the lack of sleep is compensated for by the looks on their faces at realising what dawn looks like...

As an exeter student, I salute your brother :D
-hit a guy with a shoe who was singing and dancing outside my room at 4:30 :D (and normally I can't throw for ****)

I have a similar problem ( well almost)
The miserable git that lives in the flat above
keeps whining 'bout me and my mates having a little sing song every now and again,

and who doesn't like crazy golf? well obviously the guy upstairs :(

I can see the human race being split into two factions at this rate
The "life's moaners" and the "life's enjoyers"

The moaners can go live underground and the enjoyers can rejoice in the
world and everything that life has to offer :cool: :thumbs:




:lol: :lol: :lol:



sometimes cobra, your posts are so entertaining it makes needing to highlight them actually make them funnier through anticipation :D
 
sometimes cobra, your posts are so entertaining it makes needing to highlight them actually make them funnier through anticipation :D

Thanks ( I think) :thinking: :D
 
I'm having a bad problem (Right Now!). Moved into Uni on Saturday, and all my flat-mates are nice, but there's this guy who listens to awful rap/dance music full blast throughout the day. It's not the actual music that annoys me, but it's the fact that he has a huge bass speaker just banging on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on over and over again.

It really is irritating that someone who I have to live with for a year can be so inconsiderate..
 
It's got to the point where I'm starting to see the beginning of the human race being split genetically into two groups. Nice people (Canon Owners), and ****ing stupid people... (Nikon Owners)

I just want to rant. This is going to be my rant thread.

Well.. I thought I'd say it before someone else did. :lol:
 
.....It really is irritating that someone who I have to live with for a year can be so inconsiderate..

That would drive me totally friggin' nuts :bang:

I suggest that a few ground rules are sorted out PDQ or I can see
it all ending in tears before the end of term
 
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