The GIMP minibook - what would you like to read up on about the GIMP?

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Hello everyone,

sometime this year I brought myself to starting writing a small book-like something about the GIMP. Due to lack of time and imagination (for the most part), I haven't made much progress.
It's supposed to be a collection of how-tos, but with the exception of one tutorial, I've put pretty much everything I had into these PDF files:
http://www.slapo.net/ine/tuts/gimp_minibook.zip
http://www.slapo.net/ine/tuts/gimp_smart_sharpening_enhanced.pdf

I thought it could be a good idea to ask others what would they like to know about doing stuff in the GIMP.
I can't promise I know how to do everything with the GIMP, but I'll try.

Is there anything you'd like to know how to do in the GIMP?
 
I don't use Gimp but this a great idea, and well done for the work you have put into it.
 
You've certainly hit the two things I most commonly tweek on all my selected photos - curves and sharpening.

curves - I had not seen the chromasia page you reference, and it looks good. I learned from Dan Margulis' 'Professional Photoshop 5' (found on a gimp recommended reading list once), the key chapter 3 - color correction by the numbers - is downloadable from http://www.ledet.com/margulis/articles.html. His approach includes correcting colour casts by targeting neutral regions; this is well supported in the gimp with the 'sample points' dialogue and I don't think most people are aware of it or how to use it. search for it on docs.gimp.org for the details, clearly I'm mentioning it because I think you should too :)

sharpening - I'm lazy and just want to be fed info while I'm reading, and the process is a bit hard to follow. The steps are very clear, but I would like to see some intermediate images of what you are doing with the blurring and layer masks (on the target image). It might be that you can do a (some) put-together image(s) showing what's happening in the different layers/masks, e.g. 1/4 vertical stripe showing background, next stripe showing blurred mask, next stripe showing the inverted mask, 4th stripe showing the working view. This is just from going around your description, probably there are better ways to capture the changes in a few images and the presentation or subject might need some work (perhaps just zoom in) so there is sharpened content in each stripe.

There's also some sharpening approaches working on the L layer after splitting into LAB, but gimp isn't lossless in this conversion so can be done similarly in V layer of HSV.

other stuff :

- I'd like to be more adept at using layer masks to highlight or modify certain regions, e.g. really hammer sharpening a person's eyes but keep all those spots on the forehead a bit blurry. Perhaps a section just about duplicating a layer and merging a portion of it in seamlessly with a layer mask. You might think about factoring some of this out of the sharpening section, and then be able to take it in another direction with a section on merging two completely different images (kitten with dinosaur head etc.).

- seems pretty simple but I was showing someone how to use the clone tool the other day. Don't know how introductory you want to go, but does seem like the docs.gimp.org treatment could be enhanced with some example photos. I know there's lots of tutorials around for this too, depends on your target audience and how you see your contributions being used.

- following on from the above, there are some things I'd like a quick, task-oriented 'cookbook' list for. the other day I was trying to draw a 'smooth curvy line'; I blundered around with the paths dialogue and got good enough for what I was doing at the time, but I wanted a bit better. similarly, drawing basic shapes using the select tool and then stroke isn't very intuitive and I can remember having to search around for this procedure more than once. I love the O'Reilly Perl Cookbook for example, where I can quickly jump to 'how to do this basic task' and then get on with my life. these things aren't big learning essays like using curves, maybe just enough to point to the 'water drop' icon to blur or figure out that 'remove unwanted object/blemish' has an icon like a stamp or pair of plasters and is called 'clone' or 'heal', 1-5 steps if/as needed, and maybe a few links to more in-depth usage tutorials as appropriate. Certainly I can find it all on google, but going off on a tangent to surf around and find what I need isn't always feasible when I am hurrying to get a birthday card done.


so, carry on! :thumbs:

rob.
 
Thanks for the suggestion rmiller, I'll look into them :)

I've actually made a few videos about the sharpening process, I think I'll link to them in the future revisions of the document. They don't have any commentary added at the moment, as my mic doesn't work anymore and I've yet to find a decent headset that wouldn't break the bank. It probably won't be a Trust headset, unlike the one that just stopped working shortly after the warranty period was over :P.

I've also been experimenting with sharpening after splitting photos into pretty much everything the GIMP 2.4 had, but I've found out that only HSV and LAB gave good results and those I got from editing the HSV wasn't usually as good as what I managed to do in an image decomposed into LAB layers, but with the method in the gimp_smart_sharpening_enhanced.pdf file, the results I got in RGB mode and after splitting the image into LAB, sharpening it and merging it into RGB again didn't differ enough to justify the extra steps (I don't think I could actually see the differences at 100% magnification). That said, maybe I should experiment with it a bit more, although there's no good reason for it at the moment.

What you wrote in the paragraph mentioning the Perl Cookbook is something I was aiming for. I suppose I might rename the Minibook to a Cookbook :D

Do you think video tutorials are worth making even without an audio comment, which the written material would at least temporarily replace?
 
I have progressed through Photoshop from the first edition to CS3. and I "know" how photoshop does things.
I have only tried Gimp once and was totally confused, so I am sure a good book would help a great number of people.
 
Do you think video tutorials are worth making even without an audio comment, which the written material would at least temporarily replace?

certainly, but videos can be slow to download and slow to watch. my connection is pretty slow...

rob.
 
Hoorah! more gimp tutorials. I would like to see how you align layers so they don't disappear half out the window.

Thanks for making the effort.
 
Just what i was looking for, is there a way to add watermarks? Nothing too clever, just want to be able to put something in the photos
 
Great idea! I have really struggled with using the Gimp. I've found tutorials really thin on the ground and the ones that exist often refer to old versions with features in different places or under different names. I shall have a thorough browse of what you've already written later.

The thing about The Gimp that has vexed me longest and most consistently is using selections and layers. Every now and then I still find the scissors tool will not make a complete circuit and turn itself in to a selection, or when I try to anchor a floating section it disappears somewhere without a trace. That's what I personally would like to see some material on.
 
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