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Yep, another vote for a bit of a bore feat today, we're back to the pit stops being the most exciting part of the race!

As for Mclaren, I'm worried already, let alone Silverstone :-)
 
Agree, the f1 race was quite dull. However, both the GP2 races were brilliant entertainment with overtaking and action everywhere!
 
mrgubby said:
Can you watch your language please, this is a F1 thread............





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Ha ha! :lol:

Yesterday was NOT an interesting race and as others have said it's very worrying that Hamilton & Button are worried about Silverstone! :thumbsdown:
 
mrgubby said:
Can you watch your language please, this is a F1 thread............





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lol, sorry, forgot those words don't apply to F1 races!

Hopefully though, Silverstone should be alot more enjoyable with more oppourtunities and action. With the rule changes (that i'm personally not a fan of) i don't think Red Bull are going to be so dominant. Plus. as it's in the UK and the summer period ends tomorrow then it's more likely than not to be raining ;)
 
Boring race, DRS = pointless, Valencia as a whole, it maybe a good track for drivers to drive around fast but not race, proven the last 4/5 years to be boring, F1 needs to move away from Valencia IMO

Silverstone should be far better as the track is fast, flowing with plenty of overtaking chances
 
Anyone think Jenson and Lewis are being slightly too candid? Just smells maybe a little as a double bluff? Think they could have big updates for Silverstone and just trying to throw the others off the scent?
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
Anyone think Jenson and Lewis are being slightly too candid? Just smells maybe a little as a double bluff? Think they could have big updates for Silverstone and just trying to throw the others off the scent?
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Possibly....however I never take whatever Hamilton says too seriously as he comes up with quite a lot of rubbish in my opinion! (I'm all for british racing drivers but his arrogance annoys me!).

I don't personally think they will be a bad as they are making out but I'm not convinced they can challenge for the win either unless it's a wet race then Hamilton will definitely be competitive and Button ought to be too.
 
Jimmy_Lemon said:
Anyone think Jenson and Lewis are being slightly too candid? Just smells maybe a little as a double bluff? Think they could have big updates for Silverstone and just trying to throw the others off the scent?
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If it was Lewis saying it then maybe yes but Jeson doesn't normally say to much about poor performance so seems true to me

I think the off throttle ban may have a bigger effect on McLaren than others personally
 
"Hopes that Red Bull would be slowed by a new ruling ahead of Valencia restricting changes to engine maps between qualifying and race were always likely to be misguided.

And it emerged over the weekend that a second ruling to come into force at the next race, the British Grand Prix, may well also not have the effect Red Bull's rivals initially hoped.

That is the banning of off-throttle blowing of diffusers - a practice whereby teams blow exhaust gases over the back of the car's floor even when the driver is not pressing the accelerator, significantly increasing downforce and therefore grip.

Initially, the belief among some of Red Bull's rivals was that because the world champions had been the first in exploiting this technology, they must be more advanced with it, and therefore would be hardest hit by any ban.

But Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said over the course of the weekend in Spain that they had tried 'hot blowing' and abandoned it because it was burning the bodywork - so had stuck with the less influential 'cold-blowing', where the throttles are kept open but fuel is not burnt. This produces significantly less energy and so is less effective than hot blowing."

That means that far from the Silverstone ruling hurting Red Bull, it could actually help them - as their closest rivals, Ferrari and McLaren, are both using hot-blowing.

Even as a Mclaren fan, this would be very funny :D
 
someones wheel fell off, that was about the height of the excitement!
 
Fairly dull start, very dull middle, a few messed up pit stops and an exciting last 2 laps. Nothing to write home about really.
 
Ragwort said:
No posts! Over the whole weekend? Did nobody watch?
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Just more tosh - the only good thing it wasn't a Red Bull 1 - 2.:thumbsdown:

Love to be a fly on the wall in the Red Bull motor home of Mark Webber:bang::bat:

Hamiltons comments at the end were rather funny after him showing Massa how it should be done.....again:clap:
 
it wasnt a bad race, i think the director missed a lot of the action in the race, and had no chance at the end with 3 seperate battles going on in the last few laps.
 
At one point I was thinking it was going to be a Red Bull Conga and then all of a sudden it all turned on it's head and Alonso disappears into the distance and wins!

As for the rest, well McLaren have some serious homework to do, I really think they have to up their game at present, they just don't seem on it at all. They have 2 very talented drivers and a very average car.

I feel sorry for Mark Webber - I don't care for team orders, and to be honest if I had paid to watch a race today as a lot of people had, I would be pretty pee'd off having heard that. No way should 2 racers not be allowed to race regardless of the circumstances.

Oh well, let's see what happens in Germany in 2 weeks eh?
 
I do wonder though why people moan about Hamilton :thinking: at least he brings some excitement to the races with the way he drives!

A shocking example of team orders too today and i agree with Wibbly people who paid must be well fed up at that decision :thumbsdown:
 
Thought it was utterly brilliant today, top sporting action.
 
according to the BBC... Mr Webber (and his comment) chose to ignore the orders.......... though from what I saw, backed off last half of last lap
 
gutting for Jenson- wonder if the lollipop man's recovered from his ear bashing yet:lol:
 
I thought it was ok not a total procession anyway. Gutted for JB and Lewis as I think their team really let them down with botched pits and fuel issues.

How cool was the camera on the wire though?!
 
daizylindsay said:
I thought it was ok not a total procession anyway. Gutted for JB and Lewis as I think their team really let them down with botched pits and fuel issues.

How cool was the camera on the wire though?!
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It was a fine race. F1 is often knocked by those saying you can see more on TV. Wee the TV cannot show all the battles that are going on around the track, and there were plenty of those yesterday.

The camera on the three wires was great. It had taken a lot of setting up. A large tower one end, and a sizeable mobile crane the other.
 
jambosam said:
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A shocking example of team orders too today and i agree with Wibbly people who paid must be well fed up at that decision :thumbsdown:
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I'm no fan of team orders in the way the likes of Ferrari use them, but I have to say, on this occasion, with only 5 laps to go and his two drives in 2nd & 3rd, Horner was absolutely right to tell Webber to hold station. How stupid would the team have looked if they took each other out with 2 laps to go? 33 points in the gravel trap :(
 
Grendel said:
I'm no fan of team orders in the way the likes of Ferrari use them, but I have to say, on this occasion, with only 5 laps to go and his two drives in 2nd & 3rd, Horner was absolutely right to tell Webber to hold station. How stupid would the team have looked if they took each other out with 2 laps to go? 33 points in the gravel trap :(
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But if Webber had been chasing down another driver, he would have been expected by his team to make a move to overtake, so why not on his own team mate. The team only had to tell them not to have each other off and let them race.
 
Grendel said:
I'm no fan of team orders in the way the likes of Ferrari use them, but I have to say, on this occasion, with only 5 laps to go and his two drives in 2nd & 3rd, Horner was absolutely right to tell Webber to hold station. How stupid would the team have looked if they took each other out with 2 laps to go? 33 points in the gravel trap :(
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nilagin said:
But if Webber had been chasing down another driver, he would have been expected by his team to make a move to overtake, so why not on his own team mate. The team only had to tell them not to have each other off and let them race.
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It's a case of money rules and do what you want as long as I tell you it's ok - Formula 1 holds station.
 
nilagin said:
But if Webber had been chasing down another driver, he would have been expected by his team to make a move to overtake, so why not on his own team mate. The team only had to tell them not to have each other off and let them race.
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I think the difference is by overtaking another driver there would be a points advantage to the team and driver but overtaking his team mate would have no points benefit to the team so at that stage of the race would be unnecessarily risky :)
 
Grendel said:
I'm no fan of team orders in the way the likes of Ferrari use them, but I have to say, on this occasion, with only 5 laps to go and his two drives in 2nd & 3rd, Horner was absolutely right to tell Webber to hold station. How stupid would the team have looked if they took each other out with 2 laps to go? 33 points in the gravel trap :(
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Yes i do see your point when its put like that and they would look stupid both sitting in the gravel, but i do think its kinda cheating the paying public from an exciting finish to our own Grand Prix :shrug:
 
Grendel said:
I think the difference is by overtaking another driver there would be a points advantage to the team and driver but overtaking his team mate would have no points benefit to the team so at that stage of the race would be unnecessarily risky :)
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There's no benefit in the constructors championship but there is in the drivers championship.

If Webber followed orders then Vettel didn't get 2nd on merit, it was handed to him.

If he goes on to win the drivers title by less than the difference between one 2nd & 3rd position he effectively hasn't won based on his driving skill. Just because his team mate let him.

That doesn't seem very sporting to me.
 
Shame about SKY getting the F1 for 6 years.

Silverstone and Monaco I think are still on BBC

Vodafone by all ccounts are delighted with the news - interesting debate on TALK SPORT this morning.
 
I've heard no media, I understand Jake Humphreys is on Radio 1 trying to make a case for the decision this morning.

Of course from the team sponsors point of view it's such good news, adverts every 10 laps or so - from the punters point of view it's just well meh!
 
Oh balls:(
 
I wonder if the non live races will be available on iPlayer after the live transmission on SKY?

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Copied from the GP practice feed:-

"0912: Back to the new F1 TV deal for a moment. BBC Sport's Dan Roan has been speaking to Bernie Ecclestone and here's what the F1 boss had to say: "It's super for F1. It will mean a lot more coverage for the sport. There'll be highlights as well as live coverage on two different networks now so we get the best of both worlds." When asked whether he felt it was a shame a terrestrial broadcaster would no longer be showing every race live he said: "It was not us who made that decision".

What Bernie means is he said how much each race would cost live - take it or leave it - and the BBC said we can only afford these races :suspect:

How is this more coverage?, do SKY subscribers not already have access to all the BBC channels?????

David
 
Aye Bernie's a shrewd little man .... as for beep not being able to afford it ..... don't believe that for one min ,cut their fat cat wages for a start that should covered it
 
Quick - before he reads this......

Someone, somewhere will probably stream it from Europe or the States - a la Nascar and Indy.

Dont tell Bernie the wedge:thumbs:
 
wibbly said:
I've heard no media, I understand Jake Humphreys is on Radio 1 trying to make a case for the decision this morning.

Of course from the team sponsors point of view it's such good news, adverts every 10 laps or so - from the punters point of view it's just well meh!
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apparently sky have promised to limit adverts to the beginning and end of the race.....really!! :suspect:
 
Can we please keep this thread for discussion of F1 and the races etc :)

There's another thread running here ------> LINKY all about the BBC / Sky Coverage

Thanks :thumbs:
 
Grendel said:
Can we please keep this thread for discussion of F1 and the races etc :)

There's another thread running here ------> LINKY all about the BBC / Sky Coverage

Thanks :thumbs:
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Oops my bad! :$

Back on track (excuse the pun!), I think Vettel will storm to the win on Sunday! Predictions peeps?
 
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