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and anybody that feels the verdict justified - will be banned
 
Sums up the FA. Bite and u get 10 game ban. Put someone out the game with a dangerous tackle and get nothing!!

Same as FIFA when they fined bendtner more for dropping his shorts than they did to the racist fans (Serbia?)
 
joescrivens said:
Lol 10 game ban, biting is worse than racial abuse apparently.
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Biting and being a serial offender is worse than racial abuse alone because it implies that self control (which was absent in both events) hasn't been learnt.
 
I'm no fan of Suarez or Liverpool, but 10 games jeez that's harsh…
 
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The only good news is this might spark a sympathetic response from the media (if handled correctly by Liverpool).
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:lol:
 
yeah, just been reading all the "numbers from a hat" "xenophobes" "corrupt" comments on RAWK :D
that's what is so hialrious
 
It's Fergie's fault too on RAWK

The tin foil hat factory on Mersyside must be ramping up production.

The FA only said they felt it worthy of more than 3 games. It was the 3 man independent regulatory commission that came up with 10 games.

I don't know if their report is out yet to see why they went with 10 games. Perhaps it would have been less had he not had a previous biting ban and racism ban ?
 
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i think the reasons are released tomorrow, but they shouldn't let his time in Holland affect their ban.

I think it has to be accepted, but puts the FA under pressure to be more consistent in the future.
 
dinners said:
I don't know if their report is out yet to see why they went with 10 games.
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Because he BIT someone?? :shrug:

That's ABH in the real world and a probable prison sentence with that sort of track record, yet in the insular fantasy land of the footballing 'elite' there's outrage when the animal is punished with 2 months off.
 
Wonder how many games he would have got if he bit John Terry
 
Jjm said:
Wonder how many games he would have got if he bit John Terry
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10 games in hospital at a guess. I'm still amazed Ivanovich didn't take his head off. Credit to him.
 
joescrivens said:
Lol that's so ridiculous it's funny.
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Compare and contrast these two statements:

"I went to kick the ball but mistimed the tackle and kicked my opponent"

"I went to bite the ball but mistimed the gnash and bit my opponent"

In some ways you're right, it is a ridiculous situation but not from the FA. It's ridiculous that this individual has no self control when under pressure. But apart from huge dollops of schadenfreude it's not really funny.

In the real world, away from Planet Football, this would have been - as already mentioned - assault. Any other job he'd be out on his ear rather than dictating where his fine gets spent.

But I'm sure there will be logic to the length of the FA's ban if nothing other than bunging in a contingency for a reduction of a couple of games if and when LFC appeal.

When's FIFA's ruling on his punishment for punching the Chilean player?
 
Spuff said:
Compare and contrast these two statements:

"I went to kick the ball but mistimed the tackle and kicked my opponent"

"I went to bite the ball but mistimed the gnash and bit my opponent"
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How about, "I went to kick the ball but punched or headbutted my opponent" instead?

It matters not what part of the body someone injured another with. It's ABH or violent conduct no matter if they bit, headbutted, kicked, scratched, kneed, drop kicked, headlocked, elbowed, close lined etc etc

If they were deemed to do it deliberately then the punishment is the same. In a court of law do you think someone would have got a more lengthy prison sentence for biting as opposed to giving them a glasgow kiss?

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In the real world, away from Planet Football, this would have been - as already mentioned - assault. Any other job he'd be out on his ear rather than dictating where his fine gets spent.
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as he would have done if he headbutted, kicked, scratched, kneed, drop kicked, headlocked, elbowed, close lined etc etc and many other footballers would also be out of a job on a weekly basis.
 
joescrivens said:
How about, "I went to kick the ball but punched or headbutted my opponent" instead?

It matters not what part of the body someone injured another with. It's ABH or violent conduct no matter if they bit, headbutted, kicked, scratched, kneed, drop kicked, headlocked, elbowed, close lined etc etc

If they were deemed to do it deliberately then the punishment is the same. In a court of law do you think someone would have got a more lengthy prison sentence for biting as opposed to giving them a glasgow kiss?



as he would have done if he headbutted, kicked, scratched, kneed, drop kicked, headlocked, elbowed, close lined etc etc and many other footballers would also be out of a job on a weekly basis.
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But you said there's no justification for the lengthy ban?

Of course there is, he's got previous with the FA.

That's how punishment works in all walks of life. Re-offend and punishment will increase until you learn. I say this, in the hope that when the documents are released that this is why it is more than racial abuse.

I hope he does learn, because he's a fantastic footballer and it would be a shame to see him ruin his career.
 
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But you said there's no justification for the lengthy ban?

Of course there is, he's got previous with the FA.
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is this a new rule then? Since previous footballers who have had previous run ins with the FA haven't had extra bans?

Joey barton got a 12 game ban for his antics:

3 games for the intial sending off which was extended to 4 due to him already being sent off in the season

Then 8 game ban for 2 incidents thereafer involving aguero and kompany i.e 4 games each incident.

Barton had a 6 match ban for violent conduct in 2006/7 when he went to prison

oh and then in 2011 he punches Morten Gamst Pedersen in the chest and is charged with violent conduct and lets see - yup a 3 game ban - no extra ban for having a previous with the FA on this inscident or the incident last year

and thats just one example

The inconsistency is so ridiculous it's actually funny, very funny
 
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joescrivens said:
is this a new rule then? Since previous footballers who have had previous run ins with the FA haven't had extra bans?

Joey barton got a 12 game ban for his antics:

3 games for the intial sending off which was extended to 4 due to him already being sent off in the season

Then 8 game ban for 2 incidents thereafer involving aguero and kompany i.e 4 games each incident.

Barton had a 6 match ban for violent conduct in 2006/7 when he went to prison

oh and then in 2011 he punches Morten Gamst Pedersen in the chest and is charged with violent conduct and lets see - yup a 3 game ban - no extra ban for having a previous with the FA on this inscident or the incident last year

and thats just one example

The inconsistency is so ridiculous it's actually funny, very funny
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Liverpool fan?

Cantona 6 month ban for drop kicking the Crystal palace fan
What did Zidane get for the headbut?

Basically he's got previous, been in trouble with the FA before. Personally I thought 10 match ban was generous.
 
Anyway - I've heard he won't be your problem for much longer.
Breaking News: Liverpool have accepted a £45M pound bid for Suarez from Borrusia Monchonacentreback
 
Byker28i said:
Anyway - I've heard he won't be your problem for much longer.
Breaking News: Liverpool have accepted a £45M pound bid for Suarez from Borrusia Monchonacentreback
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actually that broke 2 days ago - you're a little late with the pun :lol:
 
Rumours flying that Bayern have signed Lewandowski, too. If true that's a sad sign of the monopoly and stranglehold Bayern have over the league and all the talent it produces.

It also leaves BVB in a hugely difficult position have lost arguably their 2 best attackers.
 
Well I don't think it was long enough...just putting that out there !

My 6 year old lad watched that game and he is football mad, what do I do when he plays next time and bites someone ???
 
Ruffy said:
Well I don't think it was long enough...just putting that out there !

My 6 year old lad watched that game and he is football mad, what do I do when he plays next time and bites someone ???
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Swap him for a new son
 
The last thing Suarez needs is LFC saying he/they have been treated harshly. Defend him again or trot out the victim / witch hunt twaddle and he's got no hope of learning.

Hopefully LFC will take it on the chin, accept he's their responsibility and help him with whatever problems he has.
 
No hopefully they will appeal and get it reduced by a game or two when the board realise their error
 
I would not be surprised if it's reduced by 2 games.
 
joescrivens said:
No hopefully they will appeal and get it reduced by a game or two when the board realise their error
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It's a difficult one.

LFC went through a PR disaster last time they backed him and Suarez still went on to make Dalglish look like a mug.

What message does it give Suarez if LFC try to reduce it. What message does it put out about LFC. Surely LFC want him to learn don't they ?
 
dinners said:
It's a difficult one.

LFC went through a PR disaster last time they backed him and Suarez still went on to make Dalglish look like a mug.

What message does it give Suarez if LFC try to reduce it. What message does it put out about LFC. Surely LFC want him to learn don't they ?
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You put way too much weight on PR disasters.

Yes they want him to learn, but extra game bans hurt the club not the player. He gets to sit on his backside earning his wage.

Make him learn internally. With anger management and internal fines etc
 
If an appeal is unsuccessful, is it possible that the length of the suspension is increased? That'd learn 'em. :naughty:
 
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