The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

Topsy said:
I also use them on my X100V (the T has now been sold).

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How are you getting on with the upgrade? Especially interested in your thoughts on loss of the D-Pad, plus the 'feel' of the images on the newer sensors. I really like the sensor on the X100F but tilty screens and other mod cons are tempting.
 
colourofsound said:
How are you getting on with the upgrade? Especially interested in your thoughts on loss of the D-Pad, plus the 'feel' of the images on the newer sensors. I really like the sensor on the X100F but tilty screens and other mod cons are tempting.
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To be honest Chris I wish I'd done it much sooner, I'm loving the extra flexibility that having the weather sealing (with additional kit) and flippy screen give me. I also like the "in camera digital telephoto" (crop) feature and the bigger battery is a plus too. The V is slightly bigger in the hand (to my feeling) but still plenty small enough for an every day carry which it very much is now for me. It fits in the small Domke belt pouch that I used to have my T in nicely

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but unlike the T it being weather sealed means it goes everywhere with me.

I've only had it for a couple of weeks now and not really used it in anger except on one of my Dartmoor Photowalks (when I was using my X-T2s) I did use it (in tilty screen mode) for a close up of a stick that I thought looked like a Slug.

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Plus this shot in low cloud/mist/drizzle.

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As for the D Pad, I don't miss it I have set the V up with very few things I need to change and the Joystick is plenty fine for moving around those features especially moving the focus point around.

I think the jpgs out of camera when I get it right are great, the RAW files are easy to work with in LR I just use Classic Chrome for both.

I really can't see a case for my use to have gone up to the V1, the extra megapixels don't interest me so this V will do me until it dies or until a new model comes out with a screen that tilts in the portrait orientation (maybe).

Hope that helps.
 
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damianmkv said:
Has anyone used an x-m5, I’m thinking about one for a travel camera due to its size
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I was considering one when I bought the x-e5,
Had a hold but found it too small. However I think it would be great once you adjust to it and get used to the lack of evf.
Btw I’ve returned the x-e5 for xt50 with 16-50mm. The rangefinder style didnt suit me.
My preference would be traditional dslr style body then no evf like xm5 then rangefinder.
 
colourofsound said:
I was hoping you’d chip in ;)

So the sensor size wasn’t a factor for you? It has to be said that with the X-T50 speed wasn’t particularly an issue for me…mechanical shutter was fine for mountain bike events and I was never fast enough to track the birds I was shooting, never mind the camera!

I’m just wondering whether the speed/ergonomics will be more useful, or the croppability of that 40mp…
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No, I had a 2ft x 3ft photo on my wall for years that was taken on a 2MP camera - obviously that is at the extreme end, but I think 24MP is the sweet spot for me. I'd rather have the speed than the resolution. Even the Canon R1 is only 24MP. If the X-H2 was the same speed as the X-H2s, I'd still go with the 26MP.
Mr Perceptive said:
@colourofsound

Given that I use a Leica Q3 (which replaced my X100F, and ok is a bit of a luxury item, but its broadly equivalent), I also shoot motorsport occassionally. For the later I went through lots of options in my head/research these included

Sony A9 (original, preloved) + GM100-400 (expensive glass) but good FF AF performance
XH2S + XF100-400 - Fast AF and more reach as the sensor is APSC

But I settled on a pre-loved (ex- @Jelster) Gripped X-T3 and a preloved XF100-400 (total cost less than a pre-loved X-H2S) - I felt that this gave me the best bang for my £££ (given that it was occassional use and not my main camera) - I have since looked swapping the X-T3 out for an X-H2S for faster AF, but most of 'missed' shots are down to my capabilities not that of the X-T3. I've been put off by the X-H2S in that I would need to buy new exepensive cards (and card reader), its a totally different battery system to the X-T3 (I have 6 X-T3 batteries and I can get through 4+ in a days shooting motorsport, 5000+ images), and that it might be hard to sell on if I didn't like it (its a bit niche even for Fuji)

I am happy with 26Mp sensor using the 100-400, and not felt the need for more resolution giving me cropping options for more reach (I could always add the 1.4TC), but if you were going for a lens with less reach maybe cropping and hence higher resolution becomes important. Although the tracking options and AF speed on the X-T3 isn't as fast as the current cameras, its a bit of a sleeper with high burst frame rates. I need to improve my technique(s) to make the most of the AF before worrying about better AF. The X-T3 got a significant AF firmware upgrade during its lifetime giving it similar to X-T4 performace.

Despite bouts of GAS I can't see myself changing out the X-T3 (or buying any other lenses), and if I did I would probably go FF

In your shoe's I would consider the usage, if its going to be a main camera spend the £££, if its occassional use, look at alternative more cost effective options.
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I see a 100-400 in my future for motorsports.
 
Craikeybaby said:
I see a 100-400 in my future for motorsports.
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I'm in two minds about selling mine. So before you you go off and get one. Gimme a shout ;)
 
damianmkv said:
Has anyone used an x-m5, I’m thinking about one for a travel camera due to its size..
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I haven't tried one, but its basically an X100V sensor with the processor from the X-T5/50/E5/X100VI. Can't really go wrong paired with the 23mm pancake I reckon
 
I'm pondering switching my X-T4 for an X-T5. Would cost me about £400 I think, used for used. 40mp would be nice but actually the main driver would be the AF system for moving subjects. Can anyone comment how much improvement I'd see. Main subjects would be our dog (X-T4 is very hit and miss on him when he's running about) and motorsport. To be honest the X-T4 manages okay generally with motorsport. Nice big, predictable targets there.

Other, perhaps more sensilbe option is to hold out for the X-T6 whenever that might be. It seems like it's been a long time coming but I have historically found that skipping a generation often makes more sense.
 
I went from X-S10 to XT5, I think the X-S10 has the focusing system in the XT4. I find the AF in the XT5 in terms to be more sticky, generally that little bit faster. But it depends how much you push the camera in your scenario, the difference could be drastic or minor.

My main reason to upgrade was for the UI.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I went from X-S10 to XT5, I think the X-S10 has the focusing system in the XT4. I find the AF in the XT5 in terms to be more sticky, generally that little bit faster. But it depends how much you push the camera in your scenario, the difference could be drastic or minor.

My main reason to upgrade was for the UI.
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How do you find the ergonomics of the X-T5 compared to the X-S10? Do you notice the extra weight?
 
Raymond Lin said:
I went from X-S10 to XT5, I think the X-S10 has the focusing system in the XT4. I find the AF in the XT5 in terms to be more sticky, generally that little bit faster. But it depends how much you push the camera in your scenario, the difference could be drastic or minor.

My main reason to upgrade was for the UI.
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Cheers. This is the tricky thing. Trying to take pics of fast moving animals with the X-T4 feels like more hit than miss. If the X-T5 fixed that significantly, I think it would be worth the jump. It's just hard to know in advance. There are some other nice things about the X-T5 but it's not such a huge change vs the X-T4. Tricky decision.
 
benington said:
How do you find the ergonomics of the X-T5 compared to the X-S10? Do you notice the extra weight?
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Weight isn't a problem. The ergonimics isn't an issue for me but the UI I mainly referred to is how to center the focus point. On the XT4 and XT5 or X100VI or even the old XT1 is you press down on the joystick. On the XS10 you don't, and you can't, and its unmappable to it. You press the BACK button at the bottom button on the back. The button is flushed to the body with no texture, away from where the thumb naturally goes. Meaning in the moment, I never, ever hit it. It makes taking a quick shot impossible.

The grip on the XS10 is nicer i guess but I use the smallrig grip on the XT5 which feels really natural and blends in really well. I would recommend that.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Weight isn't a problem. The ergonimics isn't an issue for me but the UI I mainly referred to is how to center the focus point. On the XT4 and XT5 or X100VI or even the old XT1 is you press down on the joystick. On the XS10 you don't, and you can't, and its unmappable to it. You press the BACK button at the bottom button on the back. The button is flushed to the body with no texture, away from where the thumb naturally goes. Meaning in the moment, I never, ever hit it. It makes taking a quick shot impossible.

The grip on the XS10 is nicer i guess but I use the smallrig grip on the XT5 which feels really natural and blends in really well. I would recommend that.
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Thanks for the insight. I have an X-S10 and yes centering focus is fiddly, I wonder if that is improved in the X-S20.

I picked the X-S10 due to the value it offers with features like IBIS and coming from a Sony I figured the PASM dial would make for an easier transition, but I do find myself looking through at the X-T5 and X-T50 wondering if either would suit.
 
benington said:
Thanks for the insight. I have an X-S10 and yes centering focus is fiddly, I wonder if that is improved in the X-S20.

I picked the X-S10 due to the value it offers with features like IBIS and coming from a Sony I figured the PASM dial would make for an easier transition, but I do find myself looking through at the X-T5 and X-T50 wondering if either would suit.
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Your reasoning is exactly why I bougth the XS10, I like PASM, I set up the XT5 and X100VI and all my cameras to function like it is PASM, Aperture Priority to be specific. I to come from Sony, and still have them. The value the XS10 offers is basically like nothing else on the market with the modern features of IBIS, good (enough AF), IQ and in the Fuji system where everything is expensive. The missing things like dual cards or the newer battery wasn't a problem because I use the same battery for the X100 to X100VI anyway.

Ultimately it is that center point issue that drove me away.

I am not sure if you can center the focus point with the stick on the XS20 though, since I got a great deal with the XT5 in HK ($8800), which was like £880.
 
benington said:
Thanks for the insight. I have an X-S10 and yes centering focus is fiddly, I wonder if that is improved in the X-S20.

I picked the X-S10 due to the value it offers with features like IBIS and coming from a Sony I figured the PASM dial would make for an easier transition, but I do find myself looking through at the X-T5 and X-T50 wondering if either would suit.
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You can program the joystick on the X-S20 to centre the focus point by pressing in.
 
The issue for me is the XS20 still uses the same sensor as the XT4. I would just get the XT4 and they are similar money used.
 
Speedy136 said:
Egypt point as I got out of the car yesterday morning. First subject of the trip.
Xt5 Viltrox 25 1.7 air with K&F Concept 1/8 Black Mist

Egypt Point by Nick Lowe, on Flickr
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"Excellent" low light/landscape style capture Nick, liking this pic' very much.
 
Daughter gets wed in march, they have a pro and I am going to mess around with the X Half for candids. I was thinking of picking up something cheap for my sons and guests to pick up and shoot..

So, auto mode probably best and viewfinder not essential although if it has a VF I’d be more inclined to use it after..

Whaddya reckon? My other thought is an Insta or DJI 360 for some cool vids..
 
I have a friend who bought one because he fancied the hype of one. He shoots automotive usually with Sony..

Sent the half back after 2 days. He described it as “ok for phone users, not for people who like photography”
 
Topsy said:
I also like the "in camera digital telephoto" (crop) feature
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Be wary of this feature - the X100F has it to. It's not a simple crop; it maintains the megapixel count and resolution by doing upscaling in-camera. Fine for the odd shot here and there but any sort of pixel peeping or blown up printing will start to show the cracks in quality. I bet its much more useful on the X100VI with the bigger sensor.
 
colourofsound said:
Be wary of this feature - the X100F has it to. It's not a simple crop; it maintains the megapixel count and resolution by doing upscaling in-camera. Fine for the odd shot here and there but any sort of pixel peeping or blown up printing will start to show the cracks in quality. I bet its much more useful on the X100VI with the bigger sensor.
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But the X100vi does not interpolate. It’s just a crop.
 
colourofsound said:
Be wary of this feature - the X100F has it to. It's not a simple crop; it maintains the megapixel count and resolution by doing upscaling in-camera. Fine for the odd shot here and there but any sort of pixel peeping or blown up printing will start to show the cracks in quality. I bet its much more useful on the X100VI with the bigger sensor.
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trevorbray said:
But the X100vi does not interpolate. It’s just a crop.
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Agreed on both gounts, It's fine for just jpg shots and actually in my rudimentary tests for screen use there's no discernable difference between the Digital Teleconverter jpg and a jpg from the RAW through LR/PS. It's not until you want a big image that you can see the jpg from RAW via LR/PS is better but not be a million miles.

If I just want jpg grab shots it's fine.
 
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