The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

Mr Perceptive said:
@colourofsound

Having used an X100F for several years, the lens softness is only really apparent wide open (F2), and more so on close focus.

These are wide open on the X100F (F2)


Stopped down to F2.8 and beyond I never had any issues with 'softness'

The X100V is definitely sharper at F2

The OVF is very cool on the X100 series, and the fact that you can overlay a histogram on it means that you can dial in suitable exposure compensation. They really are fun cameras to use, and encourage use.

3 of your existing lens won't be making the best out of the 40MP sensor in the X-T50. Personally I'd get the X100F and save for your main replacement body, perhaps getting the XF70-300 to replace the 50-230 (no good if you go Nikon though!!)

Of course if you get smitten with the fixed lens compact solution, then once you've exhausted the Fuji offerings, you will have to switch to Leica :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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Some of us have gone the other way whilst some of you have more invested in camera gear than an entire village in Kazakhstan costs :ROFLMAO:
 
colourofsound said:
I went for a little trip to Wilkinson Cameras in Chester today, and by chance they had literally every body I was interested in trying. I'm sure the patient young shop clerk was secretly wishing I'd drop dead when I had £6k worth of camera bodies out of the cabinet :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, in my quest to figure out what it is about the X-T50 I don't like, I tried the following:

X100F - Such a cool little camera. And the UI and screen was snappy; indistinguishable in comparison to a modern camera. I was very impressed. Obviously tough for me to make any assessments as to whether the softness of the lens would be an issue for me; but seeing as I have one lined up for less than £600 I am very tempted to go in that direction...

X-E4/X-E5 - I was surprised how similar in size these were. Given that theres IBIS in the X-E5 theres really no distinguishable difference between them. I was shocked at how bad the view finder on the X-E4 is. The X-E5 was marginally better. The real star of the show though was the 23mm WR pancake. Thats a really nice bit of kit. And reports of it being 'as noisy and as slow' as the 28mm pancake are unfounded in my very limited experience. If I stick with an interchangeable lens body I will be very tempted to pick one up. As for the X-E bodies though; after experiencing the OVF on the X100 it will be very tough to settle for one of those!

X-T5 - unfortunately the battery was dead on this one but I really like the handling.

Nikon Z5II - This is a direction I am considering. I was again pretty pleased with the handling of this. Versus the X-T5 there's not a huge amount in it; obviously the grip is superior but both bodies feel similar in size even though they're not. Unfortunately they didn't have the 24-200mm kit lens option in stock, but I was interested to learn that the Nikon Z mount lenses work across both FF and APS-C bodies; and so I tried a DX APS-C lens on the Z5II which was very light and pretty nice. I'm not sure if using an APS-C crop on a FF completely negates any FF benefits; but knowing that the option is available is interesting. I've read the Z mount has the smallest flange distance too; so adapting vintage lenses should be pretty good.

I've come away feeling a bit boggled of mind; but fairly certain of one thing: The X-T50 feels like the ugly duckling of the modern Fuji line up. Stripped of one its useful dials, its added weight and girth over the previous X-Tx0 bodies plus the deteriorating build quality (some of the silver finish is coming off the viewfinder 'prism' already) mean it feels awkward to handle and not particularly nice to use. It feels like a toy; where the others felt like either professional cameras, or stylish and serious street/P&S options.

I'm not entirely sure where to go now. Its either try and straight swap for an X-E5 kit, go for the cheap X100F and save for an X-T5 or Z5II; or possibly look for a reasonably priced X100V and commit a bit harder to fixed lens and see if I miss it.

Decisions, decisions. Any thoughts?
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I went along to Jessops at the weekend to try and decide on a replacement for my disappointing 16-80. A play with other stuff and a long conversation with the sales chap saw me walk out with a Nikon Z5ii. A few lenses in part-ex softened the blow to the bank balance. Lens-wise, I got the Nikon 24-120. Rain stopped play today but I’ve a couple of days off later in the week, maybe a trip to Wales all being well. The combo feels great and a few snaps of the dog reminded me how nice Nikon files are.
 
JasonPC said:
I went along to Jessops at the weekend to try and decide on a replacement for my disappointing 16-80. A play with other stuff and a long conversation with the sales chap saw me walk out with a Nikon Z5ii. A few lenses in part-ex softened the blow to the bank balance. Lens-wise, I got the Nikon 24-120. Rain stopped play today but I’ve a couple of days off later in the week, maybe a trip to Wales all being well. The combo feels great and a few snaps of the dog reminded me how nice Nikon files are.
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I big pull for the Nikon is the autofocus etc. A Fuji X100/Nikon Z combo feels like it could be a nice option.
 
colourofsound said:
I went for a little trip to Wilkinson Cameras in Chester today, and by chance they had literally every body I was interested in trying. I'm sure the patient young shop clerk was secretly wishing I'd drop dead when I had £6k worth of camera bodies out of the cabinet :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, in my quest to figure out what it is about the X-T50 I don't like, I tried the following:

X100F - Such a cool little camera. And the UI and screen was snappy; indistinguishable in comparison to a modern camera. I was very impressed. Obviously tough for me to make any assessments as to whether the softness of the lens would be an issue for me; but seeing as I have one lined up for less than £600 I am very tempted to go in that direction...

X-E4/X-E5 - I was surprised how similar in size these were. Given that theres IBIS in the X-E5 theres really no distinguishable difference between them. I was shocked at how bad the view finder on the X-E4 is. The X-E5 was marginally better. The real star of the show though was the 23mm WR pancake. Thats a really nice bit of kit. And reports of it being 'as noisy and as slow' as the 28mm pancake are unfounded in my very limited experience. If I stick with an interchangeable lens body I will be very tempted to pick one up. As for the X-E bodies though; after experiencing the OVF on the X100 it will be very tough to settle for one of those!

X-T5 - unfortunately the battery was dead on this one but I really like the handling.

Nikon Z5II - This is a direction I am considering. I was again pretty pleased with the handling of this. Versus the X-T5 there's not a huge amount in it; obviously the grip is superior but both bodies feel similar in size even though they're not. Unfortunately they didn't have the 24-200mm kit lens option in stock, but I was interested to learn that the Nikon Z mount lenses work across both FF and APS-C bodies; and so I tried a DX APS-C lens on the Z5II which was very light and pretty nice. I'm not sure if using an APS-C crop on a FF completely negates any FF benefits; but knowing that the option is available is interesting. I've read the Z mount has the smallest flange distance too; so adapting vintage lenses should be pretty good.

I've come away feeling a bit boggled of mind; but fairly certain of one thing: The X-T50 feels like the ugly duckling of the modern Fuji line up. Stripped of one its useful dials, its added weight and girth over the previous X-Tx0 bodies plus the deteriorating build quality (some of the silver finish is coming off the viewfinder 'prism' already) mean it feels awkward to handle and not particularly nice to use. It feels like a toy; where the others felt like either professional cameras, or stylish and serious street/P&S options.

I'm not entirely sure where to go now. Its either try and straight swap for an X-E5 kit, go for the cheap X100F and save for an X-T5 or Z5II; or possibly look for a reasonably priced X100V and commit a bit harder to fixed lens and see if I miss it.

Decisions, decisions. Any thoughts?
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I have the X100f - yes, it's not A7Riii and 35GM quality by a fair margin, but I'm always happy with what it produces. I have an album on Flickr for all my X100f images. For £600 I think it's worth a try.
 
Paulie-W said:
Damn id forgotten all about that little fella. Cheers, Kerry (y)
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Thought about you today mate - I'd consider the 23mm WR pancake as well. £399 and Wex have a single one in stock I think.

Alternatively, I probably will be getting rid of my Viltrox 28mm f4.5...
 
imattersuk said:
Some of us have gone the other way whilst some of you have more invested in camera gear than an entire village in Kazakhstan costs :ROFLMAO:
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Actually compared with some of the ILC boys in the Canon/Nikon/Sony threads I reckon I'm an under-investor :ROFLMAO:

colourofsound said:
I big pull for the Nikon is the autofocus etc. A Fuji X100/Nikon Z combo feels like it could be a nice option.
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Sounds like a good route (and the Nikon generally purpose zooms are well rated), I couldn't live with the fact that all Nikon lenses rotate backwards.......................................
 
colourofsound said:
Thought about you today mate - I'd consider the 23mm WR pancake as well. £399 and Wex have a single one in stock I think.

Alternatively, I probably will be getting rid of my Viltrox 28mm f4.5...
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Big price difference, plus it'll only get used a couple of times, in Dallas.

Gimme a shout if you are ;)
 
Home after a week in HK, I didn't plan to upgrade my X-S10 but saw a XT5 for $8800 (£880) so I part-ex my camera there on the spot. Mint and even came with a box it was a kit so no lens and massive box.

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Raymond Lin said:
Home after a week in HK, I didn't plan to upgrade my X-S10 but saw a XT5 for $8800 (£880) so I part-ex my camera there on the spot. Mint and even came with a box it was a kit so no lens and massive box.

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What a find. Nice one, Raymond :thumbs:
 
Raymond Lin said:
Used camera prices were insane, XE4 for £500? X100VI for £1200 all day long. Plenty of X-Pro2/3 around. Even a new 33/1.4 was £500. I just didn't have the funds this time round.
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:eek: bloody hell, I would have been twitching. They're crazy prices.
 
Paulie-W said:
Totally bonkers... And so many to choose from too.
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Nikon ZF for £900, A7CII, but I think my XT5 was the one deal I couldn't pass up. It even came with a glass LCD protector installed. Although missing the battery charger? I got the cable but not a charger. Not sure if there was one. Not the biggest problem as I can one later on. I bought a spare Smallrig battery which has direct USB-C charging built in.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I wanted a ACII as well!

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As it happens I have an A7Cii on the way from HK right now!

That place looks amazing. There are so few shops near me that physically getting something in my hand is near impossible. Places like that seem pretty common in HK and Japan, I wonder why we don't see the same over here (or maybe we do? I rarely visit any cities in the UK).
 
colourofsound said:
Given my current journey this is also making me twitch. I think a flight to HK probably doesn't make this financially sensible though. Having said that, used prices in the UK are ridiculous...
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HK is an amazing place to visit. Think of it more as a "Buy your camera with us, get a trip to HK for half price!" kind of deal... ;)
 
Raymond Lin said:
Nikon ZF for £900, A7CII, but I think my XT5 was the one deal I couldn't pass up. It even came with a glass LCD protector installed. Although missing the battery charger? I got the cable but not a charger. Not sure if there was one. Not the biggest problem as I can one later on. I bought a spare Smallrig battery which has direct USB-C charging built in.
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T5's didn't come with a charger.

Makes me think about import duty ;)
 
jimmyjamjojo said:
As it happens I have an A7Cii on the way from HK right now!

That place looks amazing. There are so few shops near me that physically getting something in my hand is near impossible. Places like that seem pretty common in HK and Japan, I wonder why we don't see the same over here (or maybe we do? I rarely visit any cities in the UK).
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We kind of do and don't.

We do if you count the total stock held by stores like MPB or LCE and WEX, but because they post all their stock online, there is little if any reasons to visit in person. They can also price check each other easily as can the customer.

These tiny hole in the wall stores don't really have an online presence and everything is very old school it feels in terms of deals. I even haggled a fraction more for his offer for my XS10.
 
Raymond Lin said:
That of course is a consideration!
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20% vat plus 2.5% import duty. Then add shipping etc. Almost brings the price back up.
Probably cheaper to buy new grey ;)

On a side note. I can't see any Fuji gear on panamoz now.
 
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EdinburghGary said:
I take it you've tried disabling dynamic range and / or experimenting with the different dynamic range strengths? I find dynamic range can wreck a photo too. Like a washed out sort of middle of the road sort photo with a serious lack of contrast, a lack of black levels too. I prefer it on the lowest setting or off completely. If it was JPEG only, your options for recovering from over the top dynamic range is maybe more limited too.


Maybe it's not that you're seeing and something else entirely.
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After reading this post, I'm going to be honest, I've had a Fuji XT3/5 for a few years now and I've never really understood "Dynamic range"

I've always left it on 100, Why? I've no idea! Think it was probably the default. Any (very simplified) explanation would be very helpful,

Thanks in anticipation,

Pete
 
PGlynn said:
After reading this post, I'm going to be honest, I've had a Fuji XT3/5 for a few years now and I've never really understood "Dynamic range"

I've always left it on 100, Why? I've no idea! Think it was probably the default. Any (very simplified) explanation would be very helpful,

Thanks in anticipation,

Pete
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Don't know if this is useful?
 
Thank you gramps, that's very useful,

Pete.
 
PGlynn said:
After reading this post, I'm going to be honest, I've had a Fuji XT3/5 for a few years now and I've never really understood "Dynamic range"

I've always left it on 100, Why? I've no idea! Think it was probably the default. Any (very simplified) explanation would be very helpful,

Thanks in anticipation,

Pete
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I read about it on John Peltier's site a while ago and tried it out, but I didn't really get on with it - as @EdinburghGary said, I found it was making all my shots look a bit flat, so I just leave it on 100 now.
 
colourofsound said:
X-E4/X-E5 - I was surprised how similar in size these were. Given that theres IBIS in the X-E5 theres really no distinguishable difference between them. I was shocked at how bad the view finder on the X-E4 is. The X-E5 was marginally better. The real star of the show though was the 23mm WR pancake. Thats a really nice bit of kit. And reports of it being 'as noisy and as slow' as the 28mm pancake are unfounded in my very limited experience. If I stick with an interchangeable lens body I will be very tempted to pick one up. As for the X-E bodies though; after experiencing the OVF on the X100 it will be very tough to settle for one of those!
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I'm quite tempted by one of these, I love the size of it and the focal length. I know this the price is typical for a WR lens, but it would be the most i've ever spent on a lens.
 
joaoduraes said:
I have an issue with my 16-55mm mk2 lens, there seems to be some sort of dust particle jamming the zoom mechanism and it either goes from 16mm to only around 45mm or it goes all the way from 55mm down to like 19mm. Anyone had any similar issue before? I haven't really used this lens in particularly challenging dusty conditions and it's meant to be weather sealed, so I'm a bit surprised.

Regardless, I've opened a repair case with Fujifilm directly as the lens is less than a year old so should still be covered by warranty. They've instructed me to send the lens to Fujifilm Service Centre in Bedford, any suggestion on how to package the lens to send it over to them? I thought they would send a package for me to send the lens in but apparently no :(
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Update on this - the lens has just been returned to me, the zoom ring was fixed free of charge as the lens is still under warranty. Just a tad over a week turn over since they have received the lens, which I think is very acceptable. They also included new front and rear lens caps (they ask not to send one so I just sent the lens without any caps or hood and they added the caps for the return).

Overall good service, the lens seems fine now :)
 
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