The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

snerkler said:
So today I had my first experience shooting kids with the XT1, doubt I'll be doing it again ;) My good god it takes an age to lock and decide to take a pic, even in good light :eek:

It's a good job IQ is really nice when it does actually decide it wants to take a picture ;)
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What lens? I've had no trouble with my own kids. One of them being a hyper active type. Will be doing a family shoot in a couple of weeks, there's a few young toddler kids involved, will see how that goes.
 
Cagey75 said:
What lens? I've had no trouble with my own kids. One of them being a hyper active type. Will be doing a family shoot in a couple of weeks, there's a few young toddler kids involved, will see how that goes.
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18-55mm and 35mm F1.4. I know that the 35mm is relatively slow anyway, but the 18-55mm...

TBH I've been spoilt with the D750 and know that I can aim it at anything and it will lock and take the shot almost telepathically, but it always takes me by surprise how lethargic mirrorless are in comparison. I had similar experiences with the EM5-II. So whilst I can get shots it is a frustrating process TBH. Obviously YMMV and not everyone will be as picky/have such high expectations ;) The XT1 is way off a good DSLR though :(
 
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Nuzik said:
Finally you bow see my f*****g issues. You assume it should be easy but my god it's like stabbing your cock with a protractor
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But you have the XT2 which apparently is as good as high end DSLRs ;)
 
I still don't see how it's similar to stabbing my private region with a sharp instrument tbh [emoji53]
 
snerkler said:
18-55mm and 35mm F1.4. I know that the 35mm is relatively slow anyway, but the 18-55mm...

TBH I've been spoilt with the D750 and know that I can aim it at anything and it will lock and take the shot almost telepathically, but it always takes me by surprise how lethargic mirrorless are in comparison. I had similar experiences with the EM5-II. So whilst I can get shots it is a frustrating process TBH. Obviously YMMV and not everyone will be as picky/have such high expectations ;) The XT1 is way off a good DSLR though :(
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I have only found the 35 1.4 to be a bit sluggish in low light, or when close focusing at times. I will give it a proper testing outdoors this week, but I don't see it being much of a hassle. Yes my D800 was snappier, it's just a case of adapting. I will also be testing some manual lenses for child portraits. No fear!
 
Ian W said:
I still don't see how it's similar to stabbing my private region with a sharp instrument tbh [emoji53]
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It's OK, no-one understands Neil ;)
 
Cagey75 said:
I have only found the 35 1.4 to be a bit sluggish in low light, or when close focusing at times. I will give it a proper testing outdoors this week, but I don't see it being much of a hassle. Yes my D800 was snappier, it's just a case of adapting. I will also be testing some manual lenses for child portraits. No fear!
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But that's the thing, the adapting is frustrating as it doesn't do what I want when I want o_O It's the response time as much as anything, it's like waiting for Rookies to make his mind up which camera he wants ;)

Just for the record, I got plenty of shots, but also missed a lot that I would have normally got. Sometimes you only have a fleeting moment.
 
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snerkler said:
But that's the thing, the adapting is frustrating as it doesn't do what I want when I want o_O It's the response time as much as anything, it's like waiting for Rookies to make his mind up which camera he wants ;)
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Not a lot in it IMO, the guy insists the Nikon is quicker and makes excuses that it 'beeps' after focusing, but for me, they seemed about the same in the lower light scenario. But when he switches to the better lighting, the Fuji wins, easily. Yes, it's an old Nikon lens, but it's on a serious high end camera

 
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Cagey75 said:
Not a lot in it IMO, the guy insists the Nikon is quicker and makes excuses that it 'beeps' after focusing, but for me, they seemed about the same in the lower light scenario. But when he switches to the better lighting, the Fuji wins, easily. Yes, it's an old Nikon lens, but it's on a serious high end camera

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Errrm I have the XT1 not the XT2, and I was using AF-C not AF-S ;)

I have no issue with AF-S on the XT1.
 
snerkler said:
So today I had my first experience shooting kids with the XT1, doubt I'll be doing it again ;) My good god it takes an age to lock and decide to take a pic, even in good light :eek:

It's a good job IQ is really nice when it does actually decide it wants to take a picture ;)
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I've had no problems shooting toddlers with the 18-55, but I don't use any tracking modes.
 
You do have high performance mode enabled? Shooting family/kids is pretty much why I have my cameras. On a DSLR I would use C-AF with back button focusing a lot, which doesnt work great on the X-T1 so that was a bit of a change. In single AF though I find it very good and definitely get more keepers than my DSLR (older models than the D750 though). I hate missing a moment.

With C-AF just mash the button (with focus priority set), most of the time I'm pleasantly surprised that it did get the shot. You do miss a lot waiting for that initial grab though. The X-T2 is much improved, but I still get some out of focus like I did with the DSLR. I havent messed around with the AF modes much for shooting kids playing yet though, so possibly room for improvement.
 
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Nuzik said:
AFC
Always f*****g crap!
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Not on good DSLRs, and allegedly the XT2 of yours :p

Watching that video again I'm surprised how slow the 80-200 is, the 70-200 VRII is way faster.
 
snerkler said:
Errrm I have the XT1 not the XT2, and I was using AF-C not AF-S ;)

I have no issue with AF-S on the XT1.
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Ermmmmm I know, I can read :p I just happened to quote you, Neil said he finds same with the 2. Untwist yer knickers there :LOL: maybe stop using AF-C ... I only ever use AF-S, even for kids running about.

I had the 80-200, and sold it on when I bought the 70-200 VRII. I was disappointed tbh. yes, it focuses faster, but optically, they're pretty much the same thing. Some say the 80-200 has better contrast and colours even. The 80-200 can be got for a steal used. Maybe the VRII used prices will drop with the new version out though?
 
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BacktotheFuji said:
I've had no problems shooting toddlers with the 18-55, but I don't use any tracking modes.
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jj_glos said:
You do have high performance mode enabled? Shooting family/kids is pretty much why I have my cameras. On a DSLR I would use C-AF with back button focusing a lot, which doesnt work great on the X-T1 so that was a bit of a change. In single AF though I find it very good and definitely get more keepers than my DSLR (older models than the D750 though). I hate missing a moment.
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Yep, I did revert to AF-S but at F1.4 you done run the risk of not having tack sharp images as even a couple of mm movement is enough to soften it up. But on the carousel at winter wonderland AF-S wasn't happening, but then neither was AF-C TBH. I had my camera ready in position for every time my nephew came back round again trying to get a head on shot, but by the time the camera had decided to lock on and take the shot he was no longer head on. I reverted to manual pre focus and larger DOF.

TBH I didn't want to get into how you can work around it etc as this wasn't my aim. You can work around most cameras if you're willing to make compromises.
 
Cagey75 said:
Ermmmmm I know, I can read :p I just happened to quote you, Neil said he finds same with the 2. Untwist yer knickers there :LOL: maybe stop using AF-C ... I only ever use AF-S, even for kids running about.

I had the 80-200, and sold it on when I bought the 70-200 VRII. I was disappointed tbh. yes, it focuses faster, but optically, they're pretty much the same thing. Some say the 80-200 has better contrast and colours even. The 80-200 can be got for a steal used. Maybe the VRII used prices will drop with the new version out though?
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No untwisting needed :p

Yeah, some of the older lenses do render beautifully. Used prices will go up as Nikon have just announced yet another 30% increase in prices :mad:
 
Cagey75 said:
1.4 was a bit ambitious for fast moving kids no matter the gear
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It is, just using it as an example ;) I did get some at f1.4 today though :D
 
snerkler said:
No untwisting needed :p

Yeah, some of the older lenses do render beautifully. Used prices will go up as Nikon have just announced yet another 30% increase in prices :mad:
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I was just kiddng, I'm sure you wear manly Y-fronts :D

Right now on my local for sale site, there's an 80-200 that looks in good nick for 300, further down the same page there's a 70-200 VR1 asking 3 times that! :/ I know which one I'd buy if still shooting Nikon.

I took some shots of our kids at f/1.4 yesterday, and was annoyed when I checked them to see they were a little off focus, but then noticed I was at 1/20 in aperture priority - was end of the evening, getting pretty dim. Once I switched to manual mode and adjusted the shutter to 1/60 I got uch sharper shots. Of course, I had to bump ISO, but I'll take sharp over 'clean' to begin with
 
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No, but I did try a bit more focusing at f/2 on moving targets in the dark with a manual lens. We'll see how that went later...still looking through earlier pics at the moment.
 
Cagey75 said:
Yes, but I didn't make it up :D I'd happily add that one too, as I am an artist on the side. It does help when you know nothing about photography. I remember as a kid, I always had a camera of some sort or other. And would get compliments on my 'snaps' because without knowing anything about rule of thirds or proper composition, I just seemed to know ... how to compose shots in general. I was a good sketcher and cartoonist, maybe it helped, or maybe some just have that 'eye' for what looks right? I don't know, but I agree composition is another important factor indeed.
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Same here, I studied fine art and then graphic design before I got into photography more seriously and I genuinely think it helps massively, either consciously or subconsciously, when composing pictures. Good that that hideously expensive degree counts for something, because I certainly don't use it in my day job!
 
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