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Thats rip tide principle. It's not highlighted much in the UK but most kids in Australia/New Zealand are educated on them from a very early age
 
How can people be so silly.:(
 
There’s more information on an article (if you can survive the dreaded advert pop ups).

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/story-behind-viral-video-documenting-1014794

jamesev said:
Thats rip tide principle. It's not highlighted much in the UK but most kids in Australia/New Zealand are educated on them from a very early age
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I thought a rip tide was an area of under water current flowing away from the shore on a seemingly normal calm beach. To me this is storm waves funnelling into a narrow channel between rocks then receding back as quick as they came in. The article I’ve linked to seems to say they were caught by some freak larger waves compared to the size of the other waves which may have made them think it was safe to walk on the beach.


It amazes me when people go far too close to the sea when it’s rough. I was in Cornwall a few years ago. Waves were breaking over a walkway behind a lifeboat station. A guy from the station came out and was trying to warn people of the danger but some weren’t listening. At one point a couple got swept off their feet but saved themselves by grabbing the hand railing. You could see the RNLI guy’s warnings were falling on deaf ears so he called a copper mate who came down and closed the walkway.
 
Not sure I could have just stood there filming it!
 
rob-nikon said:
I thought a rip tide was an area of under water current flowing away from the shore on a seemingly normal calm beach
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It is to the best of my knowledge.

There is a programme on TV called Saving Live at Sea, its in about its 6th series. Its about the RNLI and follows them round and uses body cam footage.

Great insights but very frustrating to watch.
I believe it the RNLI should be a billable service, if you've done something deemed reckless, stupid and avoidable and they have had to go out and save you, you should be made to foot the bill, I think it would make people think twice.

If I ever find myself being helped out by them, even if its through no fault of my own, I will be making a large donation to them.
 
keef32 said:
It is to the best of my knowledge.

There is a programme on TV called Saving Live at Sea, its in about its 6th series. Its about the RNLI and follows them round and uses body cam footage.

Great insights but very frustrating to watch.
I believe it the RNLI should be a billable service, if you've done something deemed reckless, stupid and avoidable and they have had to go out and save you, you should be made to foot the bill, I think it would make people think twice.

If I ever find myself being helped out by them, even if its through no fault of my own, I will be making a large donation to them.
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I watch that too. Its a great insight into their role and what they do especially when most are volunteers.

There is a lot of talk about the RNLI and how they are funded. Ideas put forward are usually either becoming a billable service or funded by the taxpayer. The RNLI have said they want neither because if taxpayer funded then it would likely lead to future funding cuts (just like other government services are experiencing) and if a billable service then they worry people wouldn’t call them out in case they were charged for the service. I can see their point with being a billable service. If it was your mate or family member you may think twice calling them if you thought they would end up with a bill running into several thousand that they may not be able to afford to pay.

There is a video of the Hastings Shannon class lifeboat nearly capsizing whilst returning from a call out during storm Ciara. If it was government funded they wouldn't have kit as anywhere as good as the new Shannon class thats to reduce the risk they face (
https://www.facebook.com/6251868998/posts/10157386739593999
View: https://www.facebook.com/6251868998/posts/10157386739593999/
).

The RNLI are right money should never be a factor in a rescue service. Like you say donations afterwards are a great idea, I’ve heard many a story of people that do or undertaken fund raising events after being rescued.

You only have to look at the privatisation of SAR helicopter rescue to see the issues that can occur when it’s tried to be run as a business (https://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/new...earch-and-rescue-helicopter-contract/0018767/).

It always amazes me how rescue services like the RNLI or MRT’s don’t condemn people after they rescue them. They may offer some (usually light)advice but they never criticise the people they rescue or never try to help even though they put their lives on the line doing so.
 
Just shocking video. I can't imagine how a situation could be worse all of a sudden. We should always be aware of the ocean. I have never been so close to the ocean. It looks amazing that not means we have to be closer to it.
 
I have lived on the coast all my life. There is always someone in trouble here.

Kids get their foot stuck in holes on the rocks and the tide comes in, no joke.
 
People do stupid things and seem to take it for granted that the RNLI and others will make the problems they cause go away.

Some years ago - but unforgettable - a gentleman with zero sailing experience bought himself a cabin cruiser and, the following day, set out from Whitby harbour with two friends in extremely rough seas. They had all been drinking. The lifeboat station overlooked the harbour and they saw what was happening, called the skipper on the radio trying to stop him, but either the radio was off or he disregarded them. They launched immediately but were only able to recover bodies.

Doug Jackson was a press photographer at that time, and took these photos from the quayside.
https://flic.kr/p/4skaUB
View: https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougweb1000/2267039655/in/photostream/

The first one was the one that made the papers, but the third one seems to me to be more special, it shows a lifeboatman who had just grabbed another crewman, saving him just before he was washed over the side. Those are the sort of things that the crews do.
Edit: Click on the link then click on the 3rd photo.
 
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There was something similar, but non fatal, in NI when I was working for HMCG.

A bloke with zero sea knowledge bought a boat and decided to navigate across the Irish Sea via the Isle of Man.

After his sixth time of being rescued his vessel was arrested (impounded) by the Maritime agency.

He was using an AA Road Atlas of the British Isles as his navigation chart.
 
DemiLion said:
There was something similar, but non fatal, in NI when I was working for HMCG.

A bloke with zero sea knowledge bought a boat and decided to navigate across the Irish Sea via the Isle of Man.

After his sixth time of being rescued his vessel was arrested (impounded) by the Maritime agency.

He was using an AA Road Atlas of the British Isles as his navigation chart.
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the sort of situation that validates Darwinism
 
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