The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

nandbytes said:
there isn't really.
In fact for >95% of the you can get away with Sony's lossy compressed RAW with no impact in real world usage.
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Probably, but I don't see the point as it only saves you around 5mb from memory.
 
Anyone used the 16-35 PZ ?
 
trevorbray said:
Anyone used the 16-35 PZ ?
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yes used it at a Goodwood car event last year. I was thinking about it but decided to go with 20-70mm instead.
Its super sharp, even sharper than GM at equivalent apertures. Really nice contrast and doesn't change length. Not to mention its small and light. Its a really nice lens to use.
 
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nandbytes said:
I think it depends on the scene and content but yeah its not much. think you can save 10-20%.
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Just had a look, the average file sizes are 100mb uncompressed, 62mb lossless compressed and 52mb compressed, 10mb saving isn’t worth me considering compressed. YMMV (y)
 
nandbytes said:
yes used it at a Goodwood car event last year. I was thinking about it but decided to go with 20-70mm instead.
Its super sharp, even sharper than GM at equivalent apertures. Really nice contrast and doesn't change length. Not to mention its small and light. Its a really nice lens to use.
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How’d you find the power zoom?
 
snerkler said:
Just had a look, the average file sizes are 100mb uncompressed, 62mb lossless compressed and 52mb compressed, 10mb saving isn’t worth me considering compressed. YMMV (y)
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as I said 10-20% :)
On A7IV is more like 3-6mb

On Sony uncompresses is generally 2mb for every megapixel. Lossy Compresses is 1mb for every megapixel. Lossless is 10-20% higher than lossy.

snerkler said:
How’d you find the power zoom?
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Its fine, doesn't bother me. I really liked the fact that it doesn't change length and none of that backward zooming like the ZA which really annoyed me personally (YMMV of course).
 
nandbytes said:
as I said 10-20% :)
On A7IV is more like 3-6mb

On Sony uncompresses is generally 2mb for every megapixel. Lossy Compresses is 1mb for every megapixel. Lossless is 10-20% higher than lossy.



Its fine, doesn't bother me. I really liked the fact that it doesn't change length and none of that backward zooming like the ZA which really annoyed me personally (YMMV of course).
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Does the Zeiss backward zoom? Can't say I've noticed :runaway:
 
snerkler said:
Does the Zeiss backward zoom? Can't say I've noticed :runaway:
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Yep it's shortest at 35mm and extends as you zoom out to 16mm, either you don't use the lens or I have just ruined it for you, so I guess that means 16-35PZ is due now? :ROFLMAO:
 
nandbytes said:
Yep it's shortest at 35mm and extends as you zoom out to 16mm, either you don't use the lens or I have just ruined it for you, so I guess that means 16-35PZ is due now? :ROFLMAO:
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Ahh I see what you mean, yes I know that and it doesn't bother me, I thought you meant the zoom ring turned the opposite way like Sigma (or is it Tamron :thinking: )
 
snerkler said:
You can shoot at 21mp and 12mp on the A1 if you want to have smaller files, and then shoot at 50mp for the times you want to crop (y)
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The way you can set sizes on the A1 is one of my favourite features Setting up sizes, quality and type of file is all done on one screen and very intuitive. I wish they could have got that into a firmware upgrade for A9 and A9ii but the different menu system and processing power may have made it impossible. You do wonder if any of these camera get UX testing as it was mad that you had to set file type etc in more than one place on the older cameras.
I often shoot my A1 at lower frame rates and smaller sizes. 21mp is more than enough for the vast majority of jobs you can choose the framing. In low light it helps with noise or at least saves downsizing to lose some noise too.
I think you still need to shoot compressed RAW for 30fps but as many of us shoot at 20fps or lower then you may as well use lossless.
We are getting to the point that phones and PCs are already at. You don't need to update every year or version and can skip one or two and not really miss much. In terms of the planet it would be so much better if development and production slowed down dramatically but there isn't any cash in that.
 
wookie6262 said:
In terms of the planet it would be so much better if development and production slowed down dramatically but there isn't any cash in that.
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Competition exists and I'm sure if Sony decided to delay new releases by longer than their norm Canikon would be happy to pick up the sales from people who see something worthwhile in the next incremental step forward. We see this on this site and even in this thread with people agonising over what could be seen as minute differences between kit and swapping and changing reguarly.

I don't worry about the effect camera kit has on the planet. I think it's a not even a drop in the ocean compared to what goes on in other sectors and when compared to the questionable decisions taken by governments and influencers.
 
Had a wander around my local town today, limited myself to just the 35mm and 50mm. Was a good experience, although there was one shot I couldn't get due to now having a wide angle ;)

A few shots below, full album here https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAHH5J

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A1_08290 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08304 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08373 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08429 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08451 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08519 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08546 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

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A1_08547 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr
 
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woof woof said:
Competition exists and I'm sure if Sony decided to delay new releases by longer than their norm Canikon would be happy to pick up the sales from people who see something worthwhile in the next incremental step forward. We see this on this site and even in this thread with people agonising over what could be seen as minute differences between kit and swapping and changing reguarly.

I don't worry about the effect camera kit has on the planet. I think it's a not even a drop in the ocean compared to what goes on in other sectors and when compared to the questionable decisions taken by governments and influencers.
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In terms of the environment I'd say camera kit is much better than phones or computers because cameras are designed to last, phones, tablets and many computers are not. Cameras have replaceable batteries whereas almost ever phone and tablet now has batteries that are incredibly difficult to replace despite it being a wear and tear item. Increasingly phones in particular have been made difficult to repair in general with now parts being coded to the phone so they can't be replaced by third party repairers.

Also the software on phones ages as well and can reach the point they're no longer supported for apps you want to use, protected with security updates or just slow down whereas cameras carry on working as well when they were new. My current cameras are my A9 which is nearly four years old and the D750 which is approaching nine years old, my phone on the other hand is just over two years old which seems like it's old compared to friends who upgrade every year and many upgrade at the end of each two year contract. And when I upgrade the A9 it's not for newer software but for a new sensor.
 
@trevorbray You're making me rethink my preorder for a Leica Q3, that RV has my attention after viewing some of your shots.
 
This would be great, however I doubt it’d be cheap.

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Asobinet spotted a newly published patent that describes two lens designs. One is the currently available Sony 70-200mm GMII and the other one is a new yet not announced lens. The 150-400mm with constant f/4.0 aperture: Focal length: 154.53-387.86 F-value: 4.12 Angle of view: 15.94-6.39 Image...
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snerkler said:
This would be great, however I doubt it’d be cheap.

Sony patented a new 150-400mm f/4 lens | sonyalpharumors

Asobinet spotted a newly published patent that describes two lens designs. One is the currently available Sony 70-200mm GMII and the other one is a new yet not announced lens. The 150-400mm with constant f/4.0 aperture: Focal length: 154.53-387.86 F-value: 4.12 Angle of view: 15.94-6.39 Image...
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You'll get it anyway seeing as you're the richest man on the thread, comment based on recent purchases :ROFLMAO:
 
imattersuk said:
You'll get it anyway seeing as you're the richest man on the thread, comment based on recent purchases :ROFLMAO:
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I wish, sold a few things to fund the latest purchases (y)
 
Going to back to a new body, I’m not sure how I feel on the multifunctional dial that used to be exposure comp having no markings. I use that so much
 
T_J_G said:
Going to back to a new body, I’m not sure how I feel on the multifunctional dial that used to be exposure comp having no markings. I use that so much
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I use it a lot too, although I usually look at the display on the LCD/EVF as I’m looking at that whilst dealing in the comp. I do use the markings to return it to 0 though.

What I’ve started using recently and I’ve found a revelation is the aperture ring on the lens, never got on with them before but really liking it now and I wish all my lenses had one :facepalm:
 
snerkler said:
I use it a lot too, although I usually look at the display on the LCD/EVF as I’m looking at that whilst dealing in the comp. I do use the markings to return it to 0 though.

What I’ve started using recently and I’ve found a revelation is the aperture ring on the lens, never got on with them before but really liking it now and I wish all my lenses had one :facepalm:
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You sure those aperture rings are working ok, most of your images seem to have the aperture stuck wide open :ROFLMAO:
 
Mr Perceptive said:
You sure those aperture rings are working ok, most of your images seem to have the aperture stuck wide open :ROFLMAO:
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Best place for them to be stuck ;)

I did stop the lens lenses down today, even went as far as f16 but I felt a bit nauseous so changed it back to wide open :lol:
 
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snerkler said:
I use it a lot too, although I usually look at the display on the LCD/EVF as I’m looking at that whilst dealing in the comp. I do use the markings to return it to 0 though.

What I’ve started using recently and I’ve found a revelation is the aperture ring on the lens, never got on with them before but really liking it now and I wish all my lenses had one :facepalm:
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It's one of the features I definitely liked on the little RX1R.

I initially quite liked exposure compensation dials but I've come to find them a bit of a pain as there's been quite a few times the dial seems to have got knocked slightly which I've not immediately spotted.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
It's one of the features I definitely liked on the little RX1R.

I initially quite liked exposure compensation dials but I've come to find them a bit of a pain as there's been quite a few times the dial seems to have got knocked slightly which I've not immediately spotted.
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There's a lock on it so it's not and issue (y)
 
nog said:
Nice dog pics, IIRC you have/had an OM-1 just wondering how it compares with the 7 R5. realise you can crop a touch more on the R5. Focus speed and accuracy comparable?

TIA
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Still have the Om-1. The R5 animal detect is extremely good. But I’ll only use it for static or posed shots. Prefer the blackout free action shooting on the Olympus.
 
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snerkler said:
I use it a lot too, although I usually look at the display on the LCD/EVF as I’m looking at that whilst dealing in the comp. I do use the markings to return it to 0 though.

What I’ve started using recently and I’ve found a revelation is the aperture ring on the lens, never got on with them before but really liking it now and I wish all my lenses had one :facepalm:
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Yeah that's when I use the dial, to reset it when I change environments.

Your 50 shots look good, is it a keeper?
 
T_J_G said:
Yeah that's when I use the dial, to reset it when I change environments.

Your 50 shots look good, is it a keeper?
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Thanks. Yep it's a keeper, the Samyang's gone already :oops: :$
 
Thought I had a problem with the A1 yesterday, I had my 70-200mm F2.8 mk1 on and the camera kept locking up. Checked on line to find its a common problem with the A1 and the lens needed a firmware update. Did that and all is well.
It amazes me how all the other Sony cameras I had worked fine but not the A1.
 
Icee said:
Thought I had a problem with the A1 yesterday, I had my 70-200mm F2.8 mk1 on and the camera kept locking up. Checked on line to find its a common problem with the A1 and the lens needed a firmware update. Did that and all is well.
It amazes me how all the other Sony cameras I had worked fine but not the A1.
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It does just remind me how complex modern cameras actually are - with complex feedback loops to enable the lens and camera to combine to provide the high speed AF systems we've come to expect.
The A1 has a faster AF rate than any of the other Sony FF cameras, so I suspect the firmware update may have been to make sure the lens could keep up!
(The lock-up, thinking from an embedded software perspective, may well have been due to something like the A1 requesting a change, and waiting for the lens to respond, but the lens failing to keep up with the rate of requests so fills it's request queue and drops one - then the A1 just waits for the response for the 'lost' message...)
 
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