The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Quite happy with the Samyang 45mm considering its price point. Thanks for the recommendations guys - it makes the perfect evening lens for when I am to tired to juggle the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN

DSC02214 by Gilbo B, on Flickr
 
snerkler said:
Difficult to say regarding ISO as you're cropping into the A7Rii sensor. I can't say for sure but I'd hazard a guess that the A6600 will have better AF performance.

There are other lenses to consider that don't weigh as much as the 600mm reach lenses, the Sony 100-400mm and the Sigma 100-400mm. Out of the three the Sony is the best, but is also the most expensive.

Edit: As an alternative have you considered micro 4/3, you can get the 100-400mm lens giving you 200-800mm. Pair it with something like the EM1-III and you've got a great combo.
Click to expand...
Thanks a lot Toby, some great suggestions there... will have a ponder on these other lenses.

I thought shooting on crop mode was basically the same as cropping it in post so the ISO performance wouldn't change? Appreciate this may be over simplistic!
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Thanks a lot Toby, some great suggestions there... will have a ponder on these other lenses.

I thought shooting on crop mode was basically the same as cropping it in post so the ISO performance wouldn't change? Appreciate this may be over simplistic!
Click to expand...
The ISO performance doesn’t change but whenever you crop you’re effectively ‘zooming in’ on an image therefore you’re making the noise that’s there more apparent.
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Thanks for the reply. I'm absolutely certain the 200-600 woud be better than the 50-400 but it's my own commitment which is lacking - I'm just a casual shooter and I doubt I'd use something of that size and weight...
Click to expand...
a6600 + Sony 70-350 is what you want.
Excellent combination.
I had it and wish I still had it ;)
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Thanks a lot Toby, some great suggestions there... will have a ponder on these other lenses.

I thought shooting on crop mode was basically the same as cropping it in post so the ISO performance wouldn't change? Appreciate this may be over simplistic!
Click to expand...

There can be some savings with MFT. The camera and lens combo can sometimes be smaller and lighter and it can also be cheaper.

I have a Panasonic 100-400mm and at the mo it's mounted to a small RF style Panasonic GX9 (it's a 20mp camera.) Panasonics focus system may not be the best for some subjects though.
 
imattersuk said:
When you're so bored and driven to drink..........then realise you haven't even taken a single shot to test the 35mm GM bought on here a few weeks ago :ROFLMAO:

Kodak Portra 400

_DSC0045 by FusionX Photo, on Flickr
Click to expand...
Nice detail and bokeh (y)
Nice beer as well :beer:
Beavertown was founded by Logan Plant, the son of Robert Plant, singer with Led Zeppelin.
 
mstphoto said:
Nice detail and bokeh (y)
Nice beer as well :beer:
Beavertown was founded by Logan Plant, the son of Robert Plant, singer with Led Zeppelin.
Click to expand...
Thanks Mike, never knew that but I did know that Roger Daltrey has funded a brewery for his son in law.
 
The new Panasonic S5 II looks impressive, not sure how well it will sell, could be a winner coupled with Sigma glass, hybrid shooters have plenty of choice these days, Sony, Panasonic and Fuji all battling it out.
 
imattersuk said:
The new Panasonic S5 II looks impressive, not sure how well it will sell, could be a winner coupled with Sigma glass, hybrid shooters have plenty of choice these days, Sony, Panasonic and Fuji all battling it out.
Click to expand...
I saw the S5 II was billed as a hybrid camera but I’m not sure what that is. I assume it’s a stills and video camera but then that’s just about every mirrorless camera (and a great number of DSLRs) :thinking:
 
snerkler said:
I saw the S5 II was billed as a hybrid camera but I’m not sure what that is. I assume it’s a stills and video camera but then that’s just about every mirrorless camera (and a great number of DSLRs) :thinking:
Click to expand...
Not really because few have the AF performance in video and all the other video features that hybrid shooters want, just because a camera can shoot video doesn’t mean it’s good at it, a true hybrid performs equally as well for stills and video.
 
snerkler said:
I saw the S5 II was billed as a hybrid camera but I’m not sure what that is. I assume it’s a stills and video camera but then that’s just about every mirrorless camera (and a great number of DSLRs) :thinking:
Click to expand...
That's how I'd interpret the term as well although looking at the spec sheet I think the term better applies to the S5 IIX which offers some more advanced video features. I agree the term 'hybrid' is becoming redundant though given how capable most cameras now are for both stills and video unlike early mirrorless cameras where some were more focused on stills and less so on video.
 
gilbouk said:
I do like an independent coffee house. Was Explore part of the 52 challenge?
Click to expand...

No its just a part of Flickr that selects a number of images each day from across the site and adds them to a thread called "Explore". Flickr contributors have no control over that section whatsoever.
 
G.K.Jnr. said:
No its just a part of Flickr that selects a number of images each day from across the site and adds them to a thread called "Explore". Flickr contributors have no control over that section whatsoever.
Click to expand...
A well deserved feature - that poor women seems to be serious about what she's reading on her phone.... I wonder what she's thinking
 
gilbouk said:
A well deserved feature - that poor women seems to be serious about what she's reading on her phone.... I wonder what she's thinking
Click to expand...

Who knows, I just take the pic's and move on. :) :)
 
snerkler said:
@nandbytes maybe one of these could keep you at Sony?

New Sigma patent discloses the design of the new 500mm f/5.6 OS, 700mm f/8 OS and 400mm f/5 OS | sonyalpharumors

Asobinet spotted the design of three tele primes from Sigma. Example 1 Focal length: 485.00 F-value: 5.83 Angle of view: 5.06 Image height: 21.63 Overall length: 253.13 Example 5 Focal length: 700.00 F-value: 7.97 Angle of view: 3.52 Image height: 21.63 Total length: 318.72 Example 6 Focal...
www.sonyalpharumors.com www.sonyalpharumors.com
Click to expand...
perhaps it could. the 500mm f5.6 looks interesting. But I wonder if its light like nikon's version.
The nikon Z 400mm f4.5 is a lens I could/would travel with. Unfortunately the 200-600mm almost always gets left behind.
Currently I'm travelling with the APS-C 70-350mm which is actually a really nice lens but Sony APS-C bodies just haven't been updated recently :(

Taken yesterday morning, a bunch of Bee-eaters. A7IV with 70-350mm. Sure wish I had a FF telephoto I could carry.

ASA03787-Edit.jpg
 
nandbytes said:
perhaps it could. the 500mm f5.6 looks interesting. But I wonder if its light like nikon's version.
The nikon Z 400mm f4.5 is a lens I could/would travel with. Unfortunately the 200-600mm almost always gets left behind.
Currently I'm travelling with the APS-C 70-350mm which is actually a really nice lens but Sony APS-C bodies just haven't been updated recently :(

Taken yesterday morning, a bunch of Bee-eaters. A7IV with 70-350mm. Sure wish I had a FF telephoto I could carry.

View attachment 377852
Click to expand...
Aren't the Sony/Sigma 100-400mm long enough?
 
snerkler said:
Aren't the Sony/Sigma 100-400mm long enough?
Click to expand...
Sometimes they are and sometimes not.
Sony is a wee bit heavier than I'd like especially for "just" 400mm reach.
Sigma or even tamron are a much better option.
In fact I nearly bought tamron 50-400mm but reviews were questionable especially for the AF (same as for sigma 100-400mm).

I'd like good AF for tracking and locking on in low light. Above shot was just before sunrise and with the Sony 70-350mm lens, it found the eye of the bird no problem.
 
nandbytes said:
Sometimes they are and sometimes not.
Sony is a wee bit heavier than I'd like especially for "just" 400mm reach.
Sigma or even tamron are a much better option.
In fact I nearly bought tamron 50-400mm but reviews were questionable especially for the AF (same as for sigma 100-400mm).

I'd like good AF for tracking and locking on in low light. Above shot was just before sunrise and with the Sony 70-350mm lens, it found the eye of the bird no problem.
Click to expand...
Yeah it’s not perfect weight wise but it’s not too bad. Don’t you have the A1, that’ll give you 600mm in crop mode
 
snerkler said:
Yeah it’s not perfect weight wise but it’s not too bad. Don’t you have the A1, that’ll give you 600mm in crop mode
Click to expand...
No sold it on last year. Bought the A7IV instead.
Might upgrade to A7rV if AF is just as good.
A7RIV as you know wasn't as good as A9 series at the time. Apart from lack of blackout free shooting I find A7IV to be close enough to current A9/ii.

Alternatively might swap to Nikon Z7iii or Z8 or something if the AF in Z9 filters down. I'll just keep my GM primes and use them with the new megadap adapter. So it's not end of the world in terms of changing systems.
 
nandbytes said:
No sold it on last year. Bought the A7IV instead.
Might upgrade to A7rV if AF is just as good.
A7RIV as you know wasn't as good as A9 series at the time. Apart from lack of blackout free shooting I find A7IV to be close enough to current A9/ii.
Click to expand...

That's good news for me as eventually I suppose I'll need to replace my A7.
 
I read that A7R5 has better AF than even the A1...from Manny O(something)'s review.

The white balance on the R5 too is also better.
 
nandbytes said:
No sold it on last year. Bought the A7IV instead.
Might upgrade to A7rV if AF is just as good.
A7RIV as you know wasn't as good as A9 series at the time. Apart from lack of blackout free shooting I find A7IV to be close enough to current A9/ii.

Alternatively might swap to Nikon Z7iii or Z8 or something if the AF in Z9 filters down. I'll just keep my GM primes and use them with the new megadap adapter. So it's not end of the world in terms of changing systems.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure I could go back to not having blackout free shooting and using a mechanical shutter. I could maybe consider it if the other bodies had the drive/AF mode dial but it's an important feature for me. I wouldn't want those to be a menu item, and the way my camera is set up there's no free buttons to assign to drive/AF mode. I'm perplexed as to why it's omitted of the rest of the range., surely it wouldn't increase manufacturing costs by much at all.
Raymond Lin said:
I read that A7R5 has better AF than even the A1...from Manny O(something)'s review.

The white balance on the R5 too is also better.
Click to expand...
I'd be very surprised indeed if the R5 has better AF than the A1. There may be a specific situation that the R5 pips the A1 for some reason, but overall I'd expect the A1 to be noticeably better. Always happy to be proven wrong of course (y)
 
snerkler said:
I'm not sure I could go back to not having blackout free shooting and using a mechanical shutter. I could maybe consider it if the other bodies had the drive/AF mode dial but it's an important feature for me. I wouldn't want those to be a menu item, and the way my camera is set up there's no free buttons to assign to drive/AF mode. I'm perplexed as to why it's omitted of the rest of the range., surely it wouldn't increase manufacturing costs by much at all.

I'd be very surprised indeed if the R5 has better AF than the A1. There may be a specific situation that the R5 pips the A1 for some reason, but overall I'd expect the A1 to be noticeably better. Always happy to be proven wrong of course (y)
Click to expand...

Af was better in the limited test that he did, in which referred to the tracking of faces when it passes subjects before it.

The IBIS is also better in the R5 too. He did say he only had it for 2 weeks from Sony and wish he could have it for longer for more tests. But we have to be aware that he is a portrait photographer first, a studio one at that, not a bird or sports photographer.

Overall, it's very good it seems. I was dithering whether to get R3 or R4, but after that i will get the R3 and skip the R4.
 
snerkler said:
I'm not sure I could go back to not having blackout free shooting and using a mechanical shutter. I could maybe consider it if the other bodies had the drive/AF mode dial but it's an important feature for me. I wouldn't want those to be a menu item, and the way my camera is set up there's no free buttons to assign to drive/AF mode. I'm perplexed as to why it's omitted of the rest of the range., surely it wouldn't increase manufacturing costs by much at all.
Click to expand...

Conversely I'm glad not to have that drive dial. I didn't get along with it.

I really like that you can now reassign the exposure compensation dial to something else now (possibly even drive mode if you like) on A7IV and A7RV

Blackout free is certainly really nice but i can live without it too.

snerkler said:
I'd be very surprised indeed if the R5 has better AF than the A1. There may be a specific situation that the R5 pips the A1 for some reason, but overall I'd expect the A1 to be noticeably better. Always happy to be proven wrong of course (y)
Click to expand...

I imagine A1 is still better at tracking overall. R5 can detect more subject types and possibly from slightly further away or from more angles. Doesn't necessarily mean you'll get better tracking performance.

Not to mention you have 8/10fps vs. 20-30fps.

A9ii may also be better than R5 just on subject tracking even though it can't recognise all the various types like insects, cars etc.
 
We need a A1 mkII to come out .
 
nandbytes said:
Conversely I'm glad not to have that drive dial. I didn't get along with it.
Click to expand...
I'm amazed by that, just shows how we're all different (y)
 
nandbytes said:
Conversely I'm glad not to have that drive dial. I didn't get along with it.

I really like that you can now reassign the exposure compensation dial to something else now (possibly even drive mode if you like) on A7IV and A7RV

Blackout free is certainly really nice but i can live without it too.



I imagine A1 is still better at tracking overall. R5 can detect more subject types and possibly from slightly further away or from more angles. Doesn't necessarily mean you'll get better tracking performance.

Not to mention you have 8/10fps vs. 20-30fps.

A9ii may also be better than R5 just on subject tracking even though it can't recognise all the various types like insects, cars etc.
Click to expand...
Me too, massive difference in overall handling everything just feels right on the A7 IV
 
Mike.P said:
Pretty sure I have said this before in a previous discussion but It's the one thing on my a9 I dislike. Give me a programmable button any day.
Click to expand...
Am I the minority then? I’d rather have a single process and also be able to see what mode I’m in without having to delve into menus (whether by a configurable button or not). In an ideal world I’d like to know what ISO, shutter speed etc I’m in just by looking at dials (or second best a top screen) but Sony don’t offer this, and we all know how I feel about Fuji ;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top