The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!
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As people have stated their views now perhaps this is a good time to change the subject, talk about gear or even post some pictures?
A7 and 24mm f2.8 G. Squirrel!...
Very nice shot Alan.
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I think there is a dedicated thread for that subject. All a matter of perspective.
People are dying all over the world for all sorts of reasons do you concern yourself with those or is it just those that are in the spot light?
Camera thread is for camera talk.
I really like the look of the 24-70 GM II, size looks to be similar to a 24-105 which is not bad. But that price is a bit much for a hobby. Here's hoping they hurry up and give the 24-70 f4 the same treatment as a G lens.
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I think that's true. While we're taking pictures, we're not harming others.
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I do agree, plus there is a HT to have a good old moan about jumping ship too.
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Recently my lens want list has changed a lot, what I want is:-
35mm f1.4 GM
50mm f1.2 GM
85mm f1.4 GM
What I'll likely end up with
Samyang 35mm f1.8
Samyang 50mm f1.4 II
Keep my Sigma 85mm
Bit of a difference
£4200 cheaper too 
35mm f1.4 GM
50mm f1.2 GM
85mm f1.4 GM
What I'll likely end up with
Samyang 35mm f1.8
Samyang 50mm f1.4 II
Keep my Sigma 85mm
Bit of a difference
£4200 cheaper too
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Recently my lens want list has changed a lot, what I want is:-
35mm f1.4 GM
50mm f1.2 GM
85mm f1.4 GM
What I'll likely end up with
Samyang 35mm f1.8
Samyang 50mm f1.4 II
Keep my Sigma 85mm
Bit of a difference
I've hardly used my Sammy 35mm, only because I love using the 45mm so much.
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Just a question for members here, do some only use the back screen of your camera when shooting ?
As the more I shot jazz now I have noticed I tend to use the screen most of the time, even when out and about as well.
As the more I shot jazz now I have noticed I tend to use the screen most of the time, even when out and about as well.
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I use the screen a lot shooting from the hip, so does my missus.
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Only use the screen if I need to review an image.....or when taking a low viewpoint image
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Thanks guys, never use to shoot this way but just feel more comfortable now as use all my cameras like it now.
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Back screen plus chest or waste height shooting can give you a different perspective. I do it now and again but it didn't really strike me until I watched a documentary about Vivian Maier and a vid by Manny Ortiz.
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I never use to shoot this way in the past even though it does not bother me at all, think it might be to do with when I have the camera above head height and just got so use to it now.
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I use the rear screen when doing ‘proper’ landscapes using a tripod, other than that very rare although I did use it last time out at Donington as I was holding the camera over my head to shoot over the fence in the paddock. I don’t tend to like using the screen as it’s often difficult to see due to sunlight, and also it’s not as stable.
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Hi all.
I'm still quite new to Sony after transitioning from Nikon. I've currently got the A9II and have been shooting a lot of sports with it. I've got an issue where the card (Lexar 128GB 2000x) seems to be writing incredibly slow. I got my hands on a 64GB Sony Tough SD 300MB/s card yesterday hoping this would be better after seeing some articles. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be any faster at all.
If I fill up the buffer (at 20fps, 1/320th, f1.8, ISO100, MF etc as test settings), it takes nearly 3 minutes to clear. This is with extra fine Jpegs, about 450 images, and equals around 33MB/s. Is this normal and if not what could I be doing wrong?
Hope that makes sense, I'm currently at the side of a track and getting fed up of constantly waiting for the camera to catch up
I'm still quite new to Sony after transitioning from Nikon. I've currently got the A9II and have been shooting a lot of sports with it. I've got an issue where the card (Lexar 128GB 2000x) seems to be writing incredibly slow. I got my hands on a 64GB Sony Tough SD 300MB/s card yesterday hoping this would be better after seeing some articles. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be any faster at all.
If I fill up the buffer (at 20fps, 1/320th, f1.8, ISO100, MF etc as test settings), it takes nearly 3 minutes to clear. This is with extra fine Jpegs, about 450 images, and equals around 33MB/s. Is this normal and if not what could I be doing wrong?
Hope that makes sense, I'm currently at the side of a track and getting fed up of constantly waiting for the camera to catch up
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Hi all.
I'm still quite new to Sony after transitioning from Nikon. I've currently got the A9II and have been shooting a lot of sports with it. I've got an issue where the card (Lexar 128GB 2000x) seems to be writing incredibly slow. I got my hands on a 64GB Sony Tough SD 300MB/s card yesterday hoping this would be better after seeing some articles. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be any faster at all.
If I fill up the buffer (at 20fps, 1/320th, f1.8, ISO100, MF etc as test settings), it takes nearly 3 minutes to clear. This is with extra fine Jpegs, about 450 images, and equals around 33MB/s. Is this normal and if not what could I be doing wrong?
Hope that makes sense, I'm currently at the side of a track and getting fed up of constantly waiting for the camera to catch up
Lexar cards are pants these days, speed is often not as advertised and they are very unreliable. You should have seen a difference using the Sony 300mbs cards.
I am using these cards in mine. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B085884F1V
They are supposed to be the fastest cards you can buy for the A9II, well according to some random website that tests memory cards. Not sure if I have ever hit the buffer and I shoot raw to both cards simultaneously.
My usage would be a lot different than yours though as I only really use the 20fps for the bride coming up the aisle, bride and groom coming back down the aisle and for confetto runs. So much slower moving subjects and I would never be running off 450 images.
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IMO Sony are slower than other cameras at writing to the cards, even with the mega high speed ones. 3 mins does sound excessive, although I've never been close to filling the buffer and can't imagine ever doing soHi all.
I'm still quite new to Sony after transitioning from Nikon. I've currently got the A9II and have been shooting a lot of sports with it. I've got an issue where the card (Lexar 128GB 2000x) seems to be writing incredibly slow. I got my hands on a 64GB Sony Tough SD 300MB/s card yesterday hoping this would be better after seeing some articles. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be any faster at all.
If I fill up the buffer (at 20fps, 1/320th, f1.8, ISO100, MF etc as test settings), it takes nearly 3 minutes to clear. This is with extra fine Jpegs, about 450 images, and equals around 33MB/s. Is this normal and if not what could I be doing wrong?
Hope that makes sense, I'm currently at the side of a track and getting fed up of constantly waiting for the camera to catch up
I think the most I shot in a row was just over 60 frames (compressed raw to both cards) and it probably cleared in about 10-15s, although I didn't time it.At least with the A9-II you can still use the functions of the camera, when I had the A7RIV is was painful waiting it to write to card, a lot of functions don't work whilst it's writing :banghead:
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With due respect, as someone who does sport for a living and using a A9 it maybe you are taking too many shots. I have never hit the buffer and as I have said to people I have trained the more you take the more you have to go through. If you are working to a dead line you haven’t got time to go through hundreds of images.Hi all.
I'm still quite new to Sony after transitioning from Nikon. I've currently got the A9II and have been shooting a lot of sports with it. I've got an issue where the card (Lexar 128GB 2000x) seems to be writing incredibly slow. I got my hands on a 64GB Sony Tough SD 300MB/s card yesterday hoping this would be better after seeing some articles. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be any faster at all.
If I fill up the buffer (at 20fps, 1/320th, f1.8, ISO100, MF etc as test settings), it takes nearly 3 minutes to clear. This is with extra fine Jpegs, about 450 images, and equals around 33MB/s. Is this normal and if not what could I be doing wrong?
Hope that makes sense, I'm currently at the side of a track and getting fed up of constantly waiting for the camera to catch up
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I use the screen the majority of the time.
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450 shots at 20fps means holding the shutter down for 22 seconds
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That’s why I only use 10fps. There are a lot of 22 secs in a 90 minute football match. I don’t take 450 shots in a full match.450 shots at 20fps means holding the shutter down for 22 seconds
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Just used the A7 III + AF 45mm Sammy today.
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not so sure looking at some tests online
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A7SIII is faster still (they haven't got readings for A9ii or A1
)
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Some results don't match especially for A7RIV
So perhaps A9II is slower than latest bodies around.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I sometimes shoot at 20fps but only for 1-2s bursts, on the whole find 20fps too much.
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Maybe it’s that you’re aware that Sony is still writing then vs other makes, but as I’ve said it’s not an issue on the A9ii, unless you want to review the last image taken.not so sure looking at some tests online
A7rIV vs Z7ii vs. R5
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The Sony A7R IV combines almost everything professional photographers could wish for: A high-resolution 60 megapixel CMOS sensor (plus high-res shot) with...www.memorycard.expertSpeed Test: Best Memory Cards for Nikon Z7 II [SDHC/SDXC]
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Canon's EOS R5 – or as we say internally: Memory Card Monster – is without any doubt the "hottest" topic in 2020's camera world. And probably the most cont...www.memorycard.expert
A7IV seems faster vs R3
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The Canon EOS R3 has already caused a lot of excitement at the pre-announcement with the return of the Eye-Control autofocus, which was last known from ana...www.memorycard.expert
A7SIII is faster still (they haven't got readings for A9ii or A1
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The Sony A7s III is the long overdue renewal of Sony's Supreme or just S series. What remains is a sensor resolution of "only" 12 megapixels, which is aime...www.memorycard.expert
But these folks have tests for A9ii, A1, A7RIV, R5 etc
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Some results don't match especially for A7RIV
So perhaps A9II is slower than latest bodies around.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@nandbytes have I imagined it or a while ago did you say you could ‘customise’ the frame rate? I’ve looked through the manual for the A9ii and it’s 20fps, 10fps and 5fps for hi, med, low respectively but no mention that you can manually change it from this?
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450 shots at 20fps means holding the shutter down for 22 seconds
Just to clarify this. Yes, I do take a lot of photos, especially at motorsports events or days like today where you sell to customers. The more images you have, the more chances of a sale, and with so many repeat customers you have to try different things all the time. But that isn't the problem.
450 shots takes 22 seconds to shoot, but 180 seconds to write to the card as timed in my artificial testing I mentioned earlier. That's 8.2 seconds of writing per 1 second shot (approximate figures). Today at the track there were around 50 cars, most of the time 20-30 were on the track at once, and 1 lap took about 1:10-1:30 to complete. Assuming equal spacing and speed, 20 cars on track and 1:30 laps that would mean a car went past me every 4.5 seconds. If I took a 1 second burst of each car (that took 8.2 seconds to write), that would mean I would still have 3.7 seconds of writing left by the time I start shooting the next car, and that snowballs over time until it gets to a point where the buffer is full.
And that is exactly what happened today. It took a while before the buffer filled, and once it did I had to let it drain and then I'd be ok for a few more minutes.
I did reduce the quality of the jpegs to fine instead of extra fine and that helped a lot, the buffer would clear much quicker. I tried RAW as well and that also cleared much quicker, but ultimately wasn't practical.
BTW I should also point out that this is panning as well which I do between 1/20th and 1/80th of a second, so I'm not sure that's at 20fps anyway and I haven't tested what it is.
I've shot football, rugby, circuit racing and various other things with the A9II and never hit the buffer before, but those are different things and different ways of working.
I need to do more testing I think as I also noticed 0 difference between the Sony and Lexar cards today, and from what I've read there should be quite a big difference.
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This looks an amazing lens. Pretty much all you need for travelling and most other stuff too.
I just got the Tamron 70-180 F2.8 for £850, but had I been able to get the 35-150 for a bit less than £1600 I probably would have gone that route.
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E-infin have the Tamron 35-150 for £1409 and the 70-180 for £689.
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can do on the A1, these are the options below
"Hi+" can't be changed and defaults to the maximum camera can shoot which is 20fps for me since I shoot lossless compression, I don't mind the lossy compression but really I don't need 30fps.
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I shoot motorsport too, never been close to filling the buffer though, I don't want 10 shots looking practically the same let alone 450. That being said we're all entitled to shoot how we choose so if that works for you and you're happy to sift through thousands of shots that are all very similar then that's obviously your prerogative, you know what works for you
Back to the issue in hand, 450 shots clears in 180 seconds, that's 2.5 shots/second to write. I honestly don't know if that's good or not, but it doesn't sound bad to me. If I get chance I'll test mine this weekend and see how it compares to see if this is the way it is, or whether yours is slow for some reason. Just to clarify you're shooting x-fine jpeg to both cards? Also, what are the write speeds of the cards you have, sony do a couple and one has much faster write speeds than the other?
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Ahh cool, don't get that option on the A9-ii unfortunately. Over the last few weeks I've really been craving the A1, but even grey is way too much for me, let alone getting my wife to agree to it
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Ahh cool, don't get that option on the A9-ii unfortunately. Over the last few weeks I've really been craving the A1, but even grey is way too much for me, let alone getting my wife to agree to it
wife still thinks I have an A7RII
I am sure this is the main reason sony doesn't change their body design significantly to make it more comfortable
if they did half the people like us wouldn't be able to buy it