The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

LeeRatters said:
Well, that's because original A7 shooters are very skilled & talented photographers ;)

Ain't that right Alan? ;)

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Eh? Wot? A7 noise?

I use any ISO including the max and I think the biggest issue is some artificial light which can look horrible at ISO 1,600. Other than that I try and concentrate on the final picture and how it'll be viewed and as the vast majority of my pictures will be viewed on a screen how they'll look on screen as a whole picture is what I try to look at. I suppose we all pixel peep but maybe we should try not to quite so much.
 
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Well, there's a surprise. Well, obviously as they were surprised....

Sony Japan informs the A7IV demand exceeded expectations “and it will take time to deliver the product.” | sonyalpharumors

Above you can read the Google translated note from Sony Japan. As you know an early batch of A7IV cameras already shipped out in Europe while our US readers will have to wait at leas til December 30. Sony A7IV preorders (Use those affiliated links to support my work. Thanks!): In the USA at BHphoto.
www.sonyalpharumors.com www.sonyalpharumors.com

Maybe the sortage of everything has something to do with not being able to make enough too? Who knows.
 
woof woof said:
Well, there's a surprise. Well, obviously as they were surprised....

Sony Japan informs the A7IV demand exceeded expectations “and it will take time to deliver the product.” | sonyalpharumors

Above you can read the Google translated note from Sony Japan. As you know an early batch of A7IV cameras already shipped out in Europe while our US readers will have to wait at leas til December 30. Sony A7IV preorders (Use those affiliated links to support my work. Thanks!): In the USA at BHphoto.
www.sonyalpharumors.com www.sonyalpharumors.com

Maybe the sortage of everything has something to do with not being able to make enough too? Who knows.
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Usual marketing tactics, every product these days seems to exceed expectations in terms of demand and so delays rollout. I think it makes people want it more.
 
WoWza!

Amazing events here!

I phoned a plumber and... he's turned up when he said he would!!! This almost restores my faith in tradesmen :D Now comes the bill...
 
snerkler said:
I know EFCS can affect bokeh but other than this how can a camera affect bokeh, I thought it was purely down to the lens?
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Was thinking this as well, I would have thought the 35mm to be better though.
 
gman said:
Was thinking this as well, I would have thought the 35mm to be better though.
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There's a lot of factors, what the background is, how far away it is from the subject, light etc etc. The two comparisons are completely different and I'm sure I could find you examples of both that look amazing and both that don't look so good, the camera won't have any influence on this (unless using EFCS with mechanical second curtain).
 
I've looked for the effects of efcs in side by side on off shots but I can't see them. Perhaps it only shows up in certain conditions.
 
woof woof said:
I've looked for the effects of efcs in side by side on off shots but I can't see them. Perhaps it only shows up in certain conditions.
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There is always a slight difference but it is negligible and not really worth talking about tbh.
 
nandbytes said:
@LeeRatters there is a new app for A7C (among other Sony cameras) that add a nice intervelometer functionality

shutter.dev

Shutter - Remote Control App for Sony, Canon & Fujifilm Cameras

Shutter is a camera remote control app for iOS that gives you USB & wireless control of your exposure, composition, focus, intervalometer, bracketing, and more.
shutter.dev shutter.dev

It's only for iPhones, not sure if your are an iPhone person. But seemed like a decent replacement for remote shutter
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Thanks for that, just got it now for my phone so saves me getting a remote for my Sony's.
 
What a day.

The plumber turned up on time, did a good job and made improvements and he was cheap.

I'm hoping I don't wake up realising I've dreamt all this.

Sorry, carry on :D
 
woof woof said:
I've looked for the effects of efcs in side by side on off shots but I can't see them. Perhaps it only shows up in certain conditions.
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There was a video posted on here a while back (maybe it was me who posted it) showing the effect, and it’s only really apparent with fast lenses shot wide open. It’s because the two different shutters are on a different plane causing some of the light to be ‘clipped’ if memory serves me right. It doesn’t affect full electronic or full mechanical as the shutters are in the same plane in those scenarios

I guess it’s down to the individual whether a) they can see it and b) if it bothers them. It’s something that would bother me using higher end lenses as one of the reasons for such a lens for me is the rendering and I wouldn’t want anything to take the ‘shine off’. Fortunately it’s not something I have to worry about.
 
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LeeRatters said:
Orion cropped in a little with the 40mm

I wonder if 85mm will be too tight? I think it will tbh
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I went out earlier with my 85mm f1.8, I was looking at just the moon and Venus, and I it was too tight.
 
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snerkler said:
There was a video posted on here a while back (maybe it was me who posted it) showing the effect, and it’s only really apparent with fast lenses shot wide open. It’s because the two different shutters are on a different plane causing some of the light to be ‘clipped’ if memory serves me right. It doesn’t affect full electronic or full mechanical as the shutters are in the same plane in those angles.

I guess it’s down to the individual whether a) they can see it and b) if it bothers them. It’s something that would bother me using higher end lenses as one of the reasons for such a lens for me is the rendering and I wouldn’t want anything to take the ‘shine off’. Fortunately it’s not something I have to worry about.
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I can't remember what lens I tried this with but it will have been a fast prime, I just can't remember which one. In the real world the lighting can change very quickly and there's often movement so shots taken just seconds apart may potentially end up with larger differences than efcs could give. As above, I couldn't see any effects but that could be because of real world effects changing things more or masking efcs effects. efcs effects on bokeh are therefore just not something I'm worried about, until it bites me :D but I don't have it set anyway.
 
woof woof said:
I can't remember what lens I tried this with but it will have been a fast prime, I just can't remember which one. In the real world the lighting can change very quickly and there's often movement so shots taken just seconds apart may potentially end up with larger differences than efcs could give. As above, I couldn't see any effects but that could be because of real world effects changing things more or masking efcs effects. efcs effects on bokeh are therefore just not something I'm worried about, until it bites me :D but I don't have it set anyway.
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It’s like most of these kinds of artefacts, you only see them if you specifically look (y)
 
Had my second shot of boxing last night. I'd love to shoot this in a proper arena as the backgrounds in a local Miners Social Club don't really make for the best of images. My new to me Sony 35mm F1.8 did really well but shooting wide open at 1/1000th only got me iso 12800 and even that needs a 1/3 stop of exposure in post. I'll get saving for the 35mm F1.4 but it will be a bit down the line
_A922817mono by Simon Wootton, on Flickr

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wookie6262 said:
Had my second shot of boxing last night. I'd love to shoot this in a proper arena as the backgrounds in a local Miners Social Club don't really make for the best of images. My new to me Sony 35mm F1.8 did really well but shooting wide open at 1/1000th only got me iso 12800 and even that needs a 1/3 stop of exposure in post. I'll get saving for the 35mm F1.4 but it will be a bit down the line
_A922817mono by Simon Wootton, on Flickr

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I've shot in similar situations, it's a pain but you've done well here. I had to shoot at 1/320 and was still hitting 12800 ISO :(
 
Quick question....

tl;dr - A7III or A7C

I'm looking at my Fuji digital collection and seeing it literally gather dust. I don't really shoot much digital these days, but when I do, it's because I need to. So I've been wondering how best to utilise it.

I have three M mount lenses I use on my film Leica (28/35/50) and a couple of Canon EF lenses for my film SLRs. I'm really happy with this setup and was thinking it would be great to use the lenses on a digital camera without having the expense of purely digital lenses that would pretty much gather dust. The downside of Fuji is that it's APSC so the field of view is different.

I mainly do documentary & portrait photography and like to travel with a small setup. So I've been looking for a mirrorless full frame camera with a relatively small footprint that works well in low light (low light in film terms, not "the dark" in digital terms). Research & looking at the "look" of the camera has led me to Sony - in particular the A7C. I routinely shoot with a Leica MP, so anything bigger/chunkier than this isn't really of interest.

I'm not a pixel peeper, and don't need mahoosive sensors to print 300ppi at poster sizes. I'm not too worried about an unbalanced camera due to big heavy lenses because the main lenses on this camera will be the very small M mount 28/35/50 primes with an adapter. Why no Leica digital? Cost vs the usage I'd get out of it as well as autofocus for portrait work.

Initially, I thought the A7C would do the job, but the "Internet" complains about the viewfinder (I'm a left-eye dominant glasses wearer) and the menu structures. A look on the camera size website shows the A7 to be "not much" bigger than the A7C, although it's quite a bit thicker. My intention is to actually handle both cameras to see how they feel in the hand, but I thought I'd pop a post up here to see if anyone had any thoughts.

Phew. That took longer than I thought to write... TIA!
 
Harlequin565 said:
Quick question....

tl;dr - A7III or A7C

I'm looking at my Fuji digital collection and seeing it literally gather dust. I don't really shoot much digital these days, but when I do, it's because I need to. So I've been wondering how best to utilise it.

I have three M mount lenses I use on my film Leica (28/35/50) and a couple of Canon EF lenses for my film SLRs. I'm really happy with this setup and was thinking it would be great to use the lenses on a digital camera without having the expense of purely digital lenses that would pretty much gather dust. The downside of Fuji is that it's APSC so the field of view is different.

I mainly do documentary & portrait photography and like to travel with a small setup. So I've been looking for a mirrorless full frame camera with a relatively small footprint that works well in low light (low light in film terms, not "the dark" in digital terms). Research & looking at the "look" of the camera has led me to Sony - in particular the A7C. I routinely shoot with a Leica MP, so anything bigger/chunkier than this isn't really of interest.

I'm not a pixel peeper, and don't need mahoosive sensors to print 300ppi at poster sizes. I'm not too worried about an unbalanced camera due to big heavy lenses because the main lenses on this camera will be the very small M mount 28/35/50 primes with an adapter. Why no Leica digital? Cost vs the usage I'd get out of it as well as autofocus for portrait work.

Initially, I thought the A7C would do the job, but the "Internet" complains about the viewfinder (I'm a left-eye dominant glasses wearer) and the menu structures. A look on the camera size website shows the A7 to be "not much" bigger than the A7C, although it's quite a bit thicker. My intention is to actually handle both cameras to see how they feel in the hand, but I thought I'd pop a post up here to see if anyone had any thoughts.

Phew. That took longer than I thought to write... TIA!
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Get the A7C if you don't need the bells and whistles of A7III. The EVF isn't bad but it's not the best either. It's perfectly usable. The internet is great at blowing things out of proportion.

Camera size is nice to get an idea but having owned A7Riii and currently owning A1 and A7C, I can tell you there is definitely a noticeable difference in size better the A7C and A7III.
My missus would not use my other A7 bodies or even the A1 because of the size but she is pretty comfortable using A7C.

Lastly you can get AF adapter m-mount lenses and it's great fun. Been tempted to buy it again for the newly announced voigtlander 50mm F1 :D
 
Harlequin565 said:
Quick question....

tl;dr - A7III or A7C

I'm looking at my Fuji digital collection and seeing it literally gather dust. I don't really shoot much digital these days, but when I do, it's because I need to. So I've been wondering how best to utilise it.

I have three M mount lenses I use on my film Leica (28/35/50) and a couple of Canon EF lenses for my film SLRs. I'm really happy with this setup and was thinking it would be great to use the lenses on a digital camera without having the expense of purely digital lenses that would pretty much gather dust. The downside of Fuji is that it's APSC so the field of view is different.

I mainly do documentary & portrait photography and like to travel with a small setup. So I've been looking for a mirrorless full frame camera with a relatively small footprint that works well in low light (low light in film terms, not "the dark" in digital terms). Research & looking at the "look" of the camera has led me to Sony - in particular the A7C. I routinely shoot with a Leica MP, so anything bigger/chunkier than this isn't really of interest.

I'm not a pixel peeper, and don't need mahoosive sensors to print 300ppi at poster sizes. I'm not too worried about an unbalanced camera due to big heavy lenses because the main lenses on this camera will be the very small M mount 28/35/50 primes with an adapter. Why no Leica digital? Cost vs the usage I'd get out of it as well as autofocus for portrait work.

Initially, I thought the A7C would do the job, but the "Internet" complains about the viewfinder (I'm a left-eye dominant glasses wearer) and the menu structures. A look on the camera size website shows the A7 to be "not much" bigger than the A7C, although it's quite a bit thicker. My intention is to actually handle both cameras to see how they feel in the hand, but I thought I'd pop a post up here to see if anyone had any thoughts.

Phew. That took longer than I thought to write... TIA!
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A7C is definitely smaller than the 3. It's smaller than my MK1 A7.
Viewfinder is a non issue for me, it's good enough. Though I shoot 90% of the time with the rear screen. Lovely camera overall, easily my favourite yet.
 
Nikon has announced a 800mm f6.3 PF lens for the Z mount :eek:

Light DO/PF style Tele optics still missing from from Sony line up :(
 
A7 and Sony 24mm f2.8 G.

Locke Park, a bit muddy.

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Wildlife.

"Hello."

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I think they're watching me.

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Flowers in December.

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As I've just got this lens and don't get the chance to get out with a camera much when I can get out I've been tempted to take just this lens to get to know it. I can't see myself ever preferring 24mm over anything else but I do think this 24mm, as it's so small and light and IMO good (apart from the epic distortion,) makes a nice pairing with something else, probably a 35 or 50mm in my case.
 
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Harlequin565 said:
Initially, I thought the A7C would do the job, but the "Internet" complains about the viewfinder (I'm a left-eye dominant glasses wearer) and the menu structures. A look on the camera size website shows the A7 to be "not much" bigger than the A7C, although it's quite a bit thicker. My intention is to actually handle both cameras to see how they feel in the hand, but I thought I'd pop a post up here to see if anyone had any thoughts.

Phew. That took longer than I thought to write... TIA!
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One thing with the smaller VF's is that if you wear glasses your eye will probably be a bit further away and the display will therefore probably fill the VF more rather than you seeing a display at the end of a tunnel effect.

There are things about the A7c that put me off, the lack of a second near top of camera dual, the max mechanical shutter speed of 1/4,000, AFAIK no automatic way of switching to the electronic shutter for faster speeds and the constant EFCS, but these may not be issues for you.
 
As the thread has been a bit quiet I was just wondering if people are busy or like me not getting out much but I spotted that Toni AKA Ancient Mariner may have decided not to visit the forum anymore and that IMO is a shame. I occasionally think forums are more trouble than they're worth so I can see why people might just not bother but I do think it's a shame when people feel that they don't want to post anymore. So I wonder if anyone comes across Toni anywhere maybe he could be persuaded to make a return? Even a return limited to more "friendly" threads like this one, I hope, mostly :D

There are a couple of others who haven't posted for a while but Toni seems to have left over a particular issue in another thread.
 
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woof woof said:
As the thread has been a bit quiet I was just wondering if people are busy or like me not getting out much but I spotted that Toni AKA Ancient Mariner may have decided not to visit the forum anymore and that IMO is a shame. I occasionally think forums are more trouble than they're worth so I can see why people might just not bother but I do think it's a shame when people feel that they don't want to post anymore. So I wonder if anyone comes across Toni anywhere maybe he could be persuaded to make a return? Even a return limited to more "friendly" threads like this one, I hope, mostly :D

There are a couple of others who haven't posted for a while but Toni seems to have left over a particular issue in another thread.
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That's a shame, I hope he comes back. I've not done any photography for several weeks now, not really been inspired/motivated. It's not been helped by the fact I've been isolating for the past 10 days, but tbh with the way the weather's been I wouldn't have gone out anyway.
 
woof woof said:
As the thread has been a bit quiet I was just wondering if people are busy or like me not getting out much but I spotted that Toni AKA Ancient Mariner may have decided not to visit the forum anymore and that IMO is a shame. I occasionally think forums are more trouble than they're worth so I can see why people might just not bother but I do think it's a shame when people feel that they don't want to post anymore. So I wonder if anyone comes across Toni anywhere maybe he could be persuaded to make a return? Even a return limited to more "friendly" threads like this one, I hope, mostly :D

There are a couple of others who haven't posted for a while but Toni seems to have left over a particular issue in another thread.
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Very busy at work, after everything that's happened the airlines and manufacturers have decided now is the time to get repairs done and order new stuff. Not complaining I guess.
 
Anyone got any A7iv feedback??
 
wookie6262 said:
Had my second shot of boxing last night. I'd love to shoot this in a proper arena as the backgrounds in a local Miners Social Club don't really make for the best of images. My new to me Sony 35mm F1.8 did really well but shooting wide open at 1/1000th only got me iso 12800 and even that needs a 1/3 stop of exposure in post. I'll get saving for the 35mm F1.4 but it will be a bit down the line
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It makes you really appreciate how people did it in the film days.
 
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