The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

snerkler said:
Yes if the lens is good enough.
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Thanks. Would a lens the quality of either of my Sigma f1.4 lenses be regarded as good enough?
 
robj20 said:
A7C with around 40mp, global shutter, would be pretty much perfect for me. Sure it will actually come at some point, global shutter would be great completely do away with the mechanical one.
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I imagine that'll cost a fair bit too considering stacked sensor bodies are all quite expensive at the moment. may in future they'll be cheap enough to be sub-2K new by I don't think we are there yet.
Merlin5 said:
I must admit I'd quite like more megapixel. I often do heavy crops and it can get pixelated. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I had 40mp instead of the 24mp I have, I could crop in a lot and it would likely still look quite clean and detailed?
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you'd have change your lenses too if you go down FF route.
but you never know Sony may just stop recycling their old 24mp APS-C sensor and develop something with more megapixels

Merlin5 said:
Thanks. Would a lens the quality of either of my Sigma f1.4 lenses be regarded as good enough?
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Yeah they would be plenty good i think.
 
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I suppose everyone pixel peeps but I do try and keep the thought in mind that an A3 print is possible with 6 or 8mp but of course if you look very closely you maybe wont see every blade of grass in perfect detail.
 
nandbytes said:
I imagine that'll cost a fair bit too considering stacked sensor bodies are all quite expensive at the moment. may in future they'll be cheap enough to be sub-2K new by I don't think we are there yet.

you'd have change your lenses too if you go down FF route.
but you never know Sony may just stop recycling their old 24mp APS-C sensor and develop something with more megapixels


Yeah they would be plenty good i think.
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Good to know, thanks. Yep, definitely would need to change lenses for FF or I'd get vignetting I think.
 
GyRob said:
Indeed they did tooth brush with a strip of abrasive pad on as they had just started to get a little rust .

Rob. what bike do you have ?
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Rust is not a friend :( I’ve got a Road King.
Merlin5 said:
Thanks. Would a lens the quality of either of my Sigma f1.4 lenses be regarded as good enough?
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I’m not sure which Sigmas you have but newer Sigma primes are very good, especially the arts.

Whilst not everyone’s favourite site you can pair lenses with bodies on DXO to see what relative sharpness you get. If a lens has good resolving power the effective sharpness (Mpix) should be noticeably higher on a high mp body (such as the A7RIV) than a 24mp camera. If there’s not much change then the lens is not capable of resolving the detail and so you won’t see much benefit from the high mp body.

It’s not quite that straight forward but it does give a good reflection.
 
I would have changed to the A7C as it's my preferred small size like my a6600, it's rangefinder which I prefer, and it's full frame. The only reason I've stuck with aps-c is because I can get equivalent FF focal lengths in smaller lenses. The Sigma 56mm for instance is really small, but gives me 84mm.
 
snerkler said:
Rust is not a friend :( I’ve got a Road King.

I’m not sure which Sigmas you have but newer Sigma primes are very good, especially the arts.

Whilst not everyone’s favourite site you can pair lenses with bodies on DXO to see what relative sharpness you get. If a lens has good resolving power the effective sharpness (Mpix) should be noticeably higher on a high mp body (such as the A7RIV) than a 24mp camera. If there’s not much change then the lens is not capable of resolving the detail and so you won’t see much benefit from the high mp body.

It’s not quite that straight forward but it does give a good reflection.
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My two Sigmas are the f1.4 DC DN models. 'Contemporary' I think.
 
Merlin5 said:
I would have changed to the A7C as it's my preferred small size like my a6600, it's rangefinder which I prefer, and it's full frame. The only reason I've stuck with aps-c is because I can get equivalent FF focal lengths in smaller lenses. The Sigma 56mm for instance is really small, but gives me 84mm.
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you can't really get anything like your 70-350mm for FF. That lens is amazing in terms of size and sharpness, nothing like it on any APS-C system.

As for your two primes they can be replaced
Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF FE and FE 85mm f1.8 or Samyang 75mm 1.8 AF FE.
 
Merlin5 said:
My two Sigmas are the f1.4 DC DN models. 'Contemporary' I think.
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Ahh right, well you’ll lose a lot of resolution using these on a FF body. However, one plus point is you can use these on a high res body in crop mode giving you the same FOV as APS-C and still maintain a good pixel count.
 
snerkler said:
Ahh right, well you’ll lose a lot of resolution using these on a FF body. However, one plus point is you can use these on a high res body in crop mode giving you the same FOV as APS-C and still maintain a good pixel count.
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Thanks Toby. I forgot about crop mode on FF. robj20 suggested an A7C with 40mp. I can now see how good that would be, particularly for crop mode using my existing lenses. So now I hope Sony do bring out an A7C mk II with high res.

nandbytes said:
you can't really get anything like your 70-350mm for FF. That lens is amazing in terms of size and sharpness, nothing like it on any APS-C system.

As for your two primes they can be replaced
Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF FE and FE 85mm f1.8 or Samyang 75mm 1.8 AF FE.
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Thanks nandbytes. Interesting, I've read nothing but good things about Samyang. Those focal lengths and the f1.8 would be a perfect replacement.

I haven't googled those lenses yet, but are they about the same size as my Sigmas, are autofocus and similar price range and IQ as my Sigmas? I think both my Sigmas were under £300 on e infinity.
 
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nandbytes said:
I will need a new phone at some point anyway.... just haven't been keen on anything available at the moment.
There was a sharp phone with 1" sensor that came out only in Japan it seems.
Looking forward to this sony phone assuming its priced closer to £500 than £1000
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You might want to double that.. I think it’s closer to £2k, which is madness.
 
snerkler said:
I don't regret my move either, I'm very happy with the Sony. However, I do prefer Nikon colours and I do prefer the ergonomics of the Nikon Z bodies.
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I don't regret the move as such but if Nikon had a range that I was happy with at the time I wouldn't have moved, they are getting there now though.

The A7RIV and A1 I have are fine, I really liked the A7RIV when I got it but I can't say the same for the A1. Considering the price and my expectation it has been a little underwhelming.
 
Jase said:
I don't regret the move as such but if Nikon had a range that I was happy with at the time I wouldn't have moved, they are getting there now though.

The A7RIV and A1 I have are fine, I really liked the A7RIV when I got it but I can't say the same for the A1. Considering the price and my expectation it has been a little underwhelming.
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Hmm interesting... I was really underwhelmed by the A7RIV and really impressed with the A1.

I went from A7Rii to A7Riii to A7RIV to A1.
I have liked all the upgrades but A1 has been a really impressive jump for me.
 
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snerkler said:
Ahh right, well you’ll lose a lot of resolution using these on a FF body. However, one plus point is you can use these on a high res body in crop mode giving you the same FOV as APS-C and still maintain a good pixel count.
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One of the reasons for selling my a6600 and getting the a7R4a was that I can now shoot in APSC mode at 26mp - 2 more than the a6*** series.
The only APSC lenses I have kept are the Sony 70-350 and Sigma 16mm f1.4
The way I see it is I now have 2 cameras in one.

I love my a7c but an a7cii with the new gubbings of the a7iv would be rather tasty - as would an a7cR :giggle:
 
Merlin5 said:
Thanks nandbytes. Interesting, I've read nothing but good things about Samyang. Those focal lengths and the f1.8 would be a perfect replacement.

I haven't googled those lenses yet, but are they about the same size as my Sigmas, are autofocus and similar price range and IQ as my Sigmas? I think both my Sigmas were under £300 on e infinity.
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Considering you are wanting to use a high Res body you probably would want samyang 24mm f1.8 and Sony FE 85mm F1.8
If you do the equivalence calculations F1.4 on APS-C is about f2.1 on FF. So with f1.8 lenses you'll have a just under 1/2 stop advantage too.
IQ wise they'll be better than your sigmas but not as small
 
LeeRatters said:
I know there isn't a full range of colours in this image, but do the ones that are there look okay??

I'm having a bit of a refresh.....


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Looks good on my screen. If I was picky I might say there is a hint of highlight recovery where it goes a bit grey but it looks natural to my eyes. I like the shot
 
nandbytes said:
Yeah I saw and doesn't even use the entire sensor.
Back to hoping the Sharp one becomes available here at a reasonable price.
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I was watching it with interest think it's around £1600, which is insane, reminded why I still have a RX100 and a phone.
 
LeeRatters said:
I've pretty much had Sony phones since the old Sony Ericsson days when they were 'Walkman' based phones. But I've just switched to Samsung and the usability and camera knocks my previous Sony phones out of the water!
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Personally don't care about the brand as they all run android any way.
Last phone (and only the second phone) I bought new was the Panasonic DMC-CM1 because it had a 1" sensor. I sold it 5 years ago and since then I have only bought whatever secondhand phones I can pick up from sales on this forum :ROFLMAO:
 
nandbytes said:
Hmm interesting... I was really underwhelmed by the A7RIV and really impressed with the A1.

I went from A7Rii to A7Riii to A7RIV to A1.
I have liked all the upgrades but A1 has been a really impressive jump for me.
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I think with the A7RIV it was the first Sony that I found with an acceptable EVF and weather sealing etc plus the high MP was ideal for my landscape photography. I knew what I was getting and expected.

With the A1 I was expecting so much more, it's a good camera for sure but not great, It annoys me now that they still put the pathetic rear screen on it and have since (within a short time) put better ones on other/cheaper cameras. I guess the EVF is excellent but still at the price you'd expect everything to be but unfortunately it's not.
 
nandbytes said:
Personally don't care about the brand as they all run android any way.
Last phone (and only the second phone) I bought new was the Panasonic DMC-CM1 because it had a 1" sensor. I sold it 5 years ago and since then I have only bought whatever secondhand phones I can pick up from sales on this forum :ROFLMAO:
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The OnePlus phones are incredible for the price compared to the main brands too

Even the Nord which is £300
 
Merlin5 said:
Thanks Toby. I forgot about crop mode on FF. robj20 suggested an A7C with 40mp. I can now see how good that would be, particularly for crop mode using my existing lenses. So now I hope Sony do bring out an A7C mk II with high res.



Thanks nandbytes. Interesting, I've read nothing but good things about Samyang. Those focal lengths and the f1.8 would be a perfect replacement.

I haven't googled those lenses yet, but are they about the same size as my Sigmas, are autofocus and similar price range and IQ as my Sigmas? I think both my Sigmas were under £300 on e infinity.
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Samyang are a mixed bag, get a good one and they're great. What I've found with the fast primes is that they render very nicely with plenty of pop but they aren't critically sharp. Not much of an issue for me as I prefer rendering over absolute sharpness (we can get carried away with sharpness these days) however if you plan on cropping heavily then you may want to consider sharpness more so that the image doesn't start to fall apart. From my experience the 24mm and 18mm are plenty sharp enough but if you want an 85mm type lens I'd choose the Sony 85mm f1.8. over the Samyang 75mm, unless you want the size/weight advantage for travel etc.
LeeRatters said:
I know there isn't a full range of colours in this image, but do the ones that are there look okay??

I'm having a bit of a refresh.....


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Lovely image that. Overall I really like the tones, but being as you asked about the skin tones then there's a very slight orange tint, but this is in keeping with the overall scene imo.
 
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When the sun briefly came out I pointed the Sony 24mm f2.8 G up and waved it about and its resistance to flare and ghosting seem to be nothing short of outstanding,

The only drawback of this lens seems to be the epic barrel distortion, I don't think they could have made it worse if they'd tried but corrected pictures look perfect to me or at least as near perfect as I can see.

I think I read somewhere that this lens is wider than 24mm, maybe 22mm, but I don't know if that's when uncorrected or corrected, I suppose it doesn't really matter as it seems to be there or there abouts when corrected.
 
Speaking of 24mm, I was at Kings Cross station on Wednesday and it's all very updated and modernised as seem to be most underground stations these days. I liked the look and curvature of these walls and lights and used my 16mm (24 equiv) to get a shot. F3.2 @ 1/60th.

Stepping Into The Future


Walk Into The Future by Merlin 5, on Flickr
 
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Merlin5 said:
Speaking of 24mm, I was at Kings Cross station on Wednesday and it's all very updated and modernised as seem to be most underground stations these days. I liked the look and curvature of these walls and lights and used my 16mm (24 equiv) to get a shot. F3.2 @ 1/60th.

Stepping Into The Future


Walk Into The Future by Merlin 5, on Flickr
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Nice feel. Not something I'd edit in that way!

I do go for the nice lit scene with a person walking through rather than the actual people themselves. If that makes sense.
 
LeeRatters said:
Nice feel. Not something I'd edit in that way!

I do go for the nice lit scene with a person walking through rather than the actual people themselves. If that makes sense.
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Thanks Lee. Yep, it makes sense. That's the really nice thing about street photography, as there's so many different ways to be creative in either or both the subject matter and in pp. I'm a big fan of drama, mystery, surrealness and cinematic looks in photos.
 
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Matt. said:
Does anyone have any thoughts on good lenses options for hiking where size/weight is important. I've used a 5Dmk2 and 24-105 F/4 for years but it died and I wanted to go a little smaller and newer so have a A7 IV on order.

24-105 F/4 is pushing it size wise, but I may still try it.
24-70 F/4 is a good size but quality doesn't seem great. It might be worth a compromise though.
24mm F2.8 is interesting as a small option.
24mm F1.4 is interesting as a mid size/weight option of high quality.

A little zoom is useful but it's quite tempting to look at primes for those days where I want to carry a smaller setup.

Build quality is important to me as the kit will be used and abused whilst out hiking. Protecting it perfectly is not realistic.

I might take my old setup to a shop and compare size/weight of some of these options.
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I went to look at most of these so I could check size/weight/build.

- 24-105 F4 seems like an obvious buy as it's £800 with the cash back and feels well built
- 24-70 F4 might be worth a try to see what image quality is really like. Build seems ok, but weather sealing is an issue. It would be the compromise lens. Size/weight are appealing.
- 24mm F2.8 is appealing because of size/weight, but expensive so possibly out.
- 24mm F1.4. Good size/weight/build. Definitely an interesting option (f1.4!) as a size/weight saving option for when I need it.
- Tamron 28-75 isn't really wide enough for me, and I worry about the build. Size/weight/F2.8 is appealing though that's for sure.

I'll wait until the A7 IV turns up and then go and get a lens or two. Hopefully I don't have to wait until next year!
 
Matt. said:
I went to look at most of these so I could check size/weight/build.

- 24-105 F4 seems like an obvious buy as it's £800 with the cash back and feels well built
- 24-70 F4 might be worth a try to see what image quality is really like. Build seems ok, but weather sealing is an issue. It would be the compromise lens. Size/weight are appealing.
- 24mm F2.8 is appealing because of size/weight, but expensive so possibly out.
- 24mm F1.4. Good size/weight/build. Definitely an interesting option (f1.4!) as a size/weight saving option for when I need it.
- Tamron 28-75 isn't really wide enough for me, and I worry about the build. Size/weight/F2.8 is appealing though that's for sure.

I'll wait until the A7 IV turns up and then go and get a lens or two. Hopefully I don't have to wait until next year!
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I'd suggest Tamron 28-200mm along with a Tamron 17-28mm makes for a great light hiking setup
Also Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF FE has exceptionally good optics.
 
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Matt. said:
I went to look at most of these so I could check size/weight/build.

- 24-105 F4 seems like an obvious buy as it's £800 with the cash back and feels well built
- 24-70 F4 might be worth a try to see what image quality is really like. Build seems ok, but weather sealing is an issue. It would be the compromise lens. Size/weight are appealing.
- 24mm F2.8 is appealing because of size/weight, but expensive so possibly out.
- 24mm F1.4. Good size/weight/build. Definitely an interesting option (f1.4!) as a size/weight saving option for when I need it.
- Tamron 28-75 isn't really wide enough for me, and I worry about the build. Size/weight/F2.8 is appealing though that's for sure.

I'll wait until the A7 IV turns up and then go and get a lens or two. Hopefully I don't have to wait until next year!
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I’ve not seen anything that suggests the weather sealing on the 24-70mm is sub par.

It’s a shame you weren’t looking a few months ago, the 24–105mm was going for a snip :exit:
 
snerkler said:
I’ve not seen anything that suggests the weather sealing on the 24-70mm is sub par.

It’s a shame you weren’t looking a few months ago, the 24–105mm was going for a snip :exit:
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that was indeed a great deal, someone here decided to buy most of it themselves to make a profit. Rather sad :(
 
woof woof said:
When the sun briefly came out I pointed the Sony 24mm f2.8 G up and waved it about and its resistance to flare and ghosting seem to be nothing short of outstanding,

The only drawback of this lens seems to be the epic barrel distortion, I don't think they could have made it worse if they'd tried but corrected pictures look perfect to me or at least as near perfect as I can see.

I think I read somewhere that this lens is wider than 24mm, maybe 22mm, but I don't know if that's when uncorrected or corrected, I suppose it doesn't really matter as it seems to be there or there abouts when corrected.
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Thank you :) Sorry, I missed this before!

This morning I was lucky with some eventful weather :)


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This evening I was lucky in that I fixed the very slow/sticky aperture on the £23 Yashica ML135 in about 10 minutes :)
 
I liked the 24-70 f4 for hiking. 28-200 no chance, not wide enough for starters.
 
robj20 said:
I liked the 24-70 f4 for hiking. 28-200 no chance, not wide enough for starters.
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I’m taking my 28-200 up to the lakes in a few weeks. looking forward to giving it a try in the location where it was purchased for. Up on fells I usually use longer focal lengths so the 24-28mm range isn’t so important for me. I’d like to pair it with the 17-28mm but I keep on missing them when they come up on here. If only Sony did a good 24-200.
 
nandbytes said:
that was indeed a great deal, someone here decided to buy most of it themselves to make a profit. Rather sad :(
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Sorry that my entrepreneurship made you feel sad.

I do think you need to wind your neck in, I find your comment to be rather sad. Having lost half of my income over the last nearly 2 years now due to the pandemic, I will make money how I see fit.

Unlike someone here I have never used the forum for making a profit on something I bought at a much cheaper price elsewhere.
 
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