The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

f/2.8 said:
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

All my dissing of the A7RIV and I have just booked a job that means I need to now go buy another one.

Not even gonna have time to do a Panamoz etc. will have to hit up a local shop.
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my A1 shipped friday last week, was here Monday Lunch... Not bad 4 days UK cant even do that sometimes
 
snerkler said:
Littleted's just sent me a YT video from Mark Galer regarding using aperture priority for panning shots and whilst what he was saying makes sense for certain situations it's not a technique I'll be using. However, it did mention something that I wasn't aware of and that is continuous AF doesn't work beyond a certain aperture. Up until recently Sony's only continuously AF'd at f8 and wider, but the A7RIV will C-AF up to f11, the A9 and A9ii will both C-AF up to f16, and the A1 up to f22.

I got away with it at the weekend as when I was panning at 1/15 aperture was f22 (I forgot my ND filters :facepalm:). I guess DOF was pretty big though.
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If i remember right its the PDAF limit, im pretty sure it falls in-line with what these are here.. I could be wrong though
 
littleted said:
my A1 shipped friday last week, was here Monday Lunch... Not bad 4 days UK cant even do that sometimes
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Needed it today first part of job was about an hour ago. Plus my last Panamoz order was a nightmare and took nearly 3 weeks.:ROFLMAO:
 
littleted said:
If i remember right its the PDAF limit, im pretty sure it falls in-line with what these are here.. I could be wrong though
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Those figures I posted were taken straight from the Sony site, some are different to what that guy said on yt
 
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mav said:
Barn Owl a7iii 200-600. 1.4 tc
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Superb )y_
nandbytes said:
More news on the FE sigma 150-600mm
rumour supposedly confirmed and its a "sport" lens.
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The new Sigma will be a 150-600mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS | Sports FE lens! | sonyalpharumors

Image on top shows the new Tamron 150-500mm FE at BHphoto. Adorama. Fotokoch DE. Parkcameras UK. Nokis***a confirmed our rumors and says the Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS | Sports FE lens will be announced soon!
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@Mike.P how's that canon looking for you now ;)
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It'll be heavy then ;)
 
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snerkler said:
It'll be heavy then ;)
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The Sony isn't light but lighter than their DSLR sport version.
But then again they've done really well on the 85DN.
I waiting to see if they'll manage to get over the 15fps limit. If they do this could be a very interesting option.
 
nandbytes said:
The Sony isn't light but lighter than their DSLR sport version.
But then again they've done really well on the 85DN.
I waiting to see if they'll manage to get over the 15fps limit. If they do this could be a very interesting option.
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Is that not some agreement/software limitation employed by Sony? 15fps is enough for me anyway, more than enough.
 
snerkler said:
Is that not some agreement/software limitation employed by Sony? 15fps is enough for me anyway, more than enough.
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I am pretty sure its not.... (no conclusive proof of course)
I think the limitation for which lens can do more than 15fps or not is down to the speed of communication between the lens and the body. This is why older Sony lenses cannot do more than 15fps despite some of them having blazing fast AF. For example FE55 AF is more responsive than FE50/1.8 yet FE50/1.8 can do 30fps. Zeiss 35mm f1.4 is also faster than the new Sony 35mm f1.4 yet the GM can do 30fps but the older Zeiss can't. The FE 70-200mm f4 can do 30fps under certain settings even though officially it can do only 15fps. Plus I have seen reports online of some 3rd party lenses managing slightly over 15fps too. So I do not think 15fps is a hard and fast limit just as 30fps isn't always possible. It's down to the lens than the body is what I think it based on the what I have seen.

People on the internet like to spread false claims and FUD for whatever reason. And what I am talking may be BS but I think Sony limiting it to 15fps for 3rd parties in software is more BS.
why would sony limit their own lenses to 15fps!! just to sell newer lenses? but more than half the lenses in the 15fps category are still in production (only ones superseded are the Zeiss 35/50 f1.4 and 28-70 kit lenses). I don't think there is software in the camera to say "if using lens X, Y, Z or non-sony then use 15pfs only" :LOL:
 
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nandbytes said:
I am pretty sure its not.... (no conclusive proof of course)
I think the limitation for which lens can do more than 15fps or not is down to the speed of communication between the lens and the body. This is why older Sony lenses cannot do more than 15fps despite some of them having blazing fast AF. For example FE55 AF is more responsive than FE50/1.8 yet FE50/1.8 can do 30fps. Zeiss 35mm f1.4 is also faster than the new Sony 35mm f1.4 yet the GM can do 30fps but the older Zeiss can't. The FE 70-200mm f4 can do 30fps under certain settings even though officially it can do only 15fps. Plus I have seen reports online of some 3rd party lenses managing slightly over 15fps too. So I do not think 15fps is a hard and fast limit just as 30fps isn't always possible. It's down to the lens than the body is what I think it based on the what I have seen.

People on the internet like to spread false claims and FUD for whatever reason. And what I am talking may be BS but I think Sony limiting it to 15fps for 3rd parties in software is more BS.
why would sony limit their own lenses to 15fps!! just to sell newer lenses? but more than half the lenses in the 15fps category are still in production (only ones superseded are the Zeiss 35/50 f1.4 and 28-70 kit lenses). I don't think there is software in the camera to say "if using lens X, Y, Z or non-sony then use 15pfs only" :LOL:
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I have no proof but I’m sure Tamron and others can make a lens do more than 15fps surely, I’m sure Sony don’t have a magic ingredient for that?
 
I’ve contacted Tamron to see if they can tell me ;)
 
snerkler said:
I have no proof but I’m sure Tamron and others can make a lens do more than 15fps surely, I’m sure Sony don’t have a magic ingredient for that?
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I am sure they can but not sure why they haven't.
Just one of those things that might require some R&D to unlock and may be they don't feel it's worth the investment?
Just like I am sure they could also reverse engineer RF and Z mounts but they seem to be taking their time at the moment.
 
nandbytes said:
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Just like I am sure they could also reverse engineer RF and Z mounts but they seem to be taking their time at the moment.
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That’s down to patents and not lack of motivation. Sony have sensibly opened up their patent.
 
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Stephen L said:
That’s down to patents and not lack of motivation. Sony have sensibly opened up their patent.
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In the past with DSLR's it's been difficult for the 3rd party guys and although they may have done a pretty good job at times the camera manufacturers have at times moved things on and further work has then been needed. We can only guess if the camera manufacturers have made things difficult deliberately but whatever the cause the result has been that 3rd party manufacturers have had to repeatedly play catch up. I don't know if the same will be true in these mirrorless days but right now Sony's approach seems to be the best one for buyers.
 
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Stephen L said:
That’s down to patents and not lack of motivation. Sony have sensibly opened up their patent.
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I spoke to a sigma rep about this (because I am/was interested in moving to RF). according to him reverse engineering is only half the issue.
the other half is keeping up with the firmware updates (both lens and body wise). if you remember sometimes older sigma lenses stopped working on newer bodies and it had to be rechipped.
yes they can release a dock now to update firmware but they have to spend the time to keep up with any changes new bodies bring (which could be quite considerable as the mounts are still new). Plus not to mention the effort and money (for both sigma and customers) for the dock.
In case of Sony, they can update the lens via. the body like sony lenses and they get a heads up to the changes. So their lenses are "never broken" per say.

That's what I have heard anyway, take it as you will.
 
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Personally I can't see the point of the Sigma sport, the Tamron yes because of the weight difference, wider focal length and closer focus ability.

The Sigma is (if their current pricing is anything to go by) is going to be the same price as the Sony 200-600m, I doubt it will be internal zoom and (having had the Sport version in both Nikon and currently Canon mounts) it isn't great with a teleconverter ... which Sigma don't make anyway. Had Sigma made a version of the 60-600mm then I may have been interested.

As far as I am concerned Sony hit it out of the ballpark with the 200-600mm and as I have said before that lens is the only reason I am currently trying the A9.
 
Mike.P said:
Personally I can't see the point of the Sigma sport, the Tamron yes because of the weight difference, wider focal length and closer focus ability.

The Sigma is (if their current pricing is anything to go by) is going to be the same price as the Sony 200-600m, I doubt it will be internal zoom and (having had the Sport version in both Nikon and currently Canon mounts) it isn't great with a teleconverter ... which Sigma don't make anyway. Had Sigma made a version of the 60-600mm then I may have been interested.

As far as I am concerned Sony hit it out of the ballpark with the 200-600mm and as I have said before that lens is the only reason I am currently trying the A9.
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I wouldn't base the price of Sigma mirrorless lenses on the DSLR variants. they are priced and sized very competitively to the Sony versions (which themselves are sometimes very competitive if you put it against equivalent DSLR lenses),
 
Looks like new laowa lenses are coming (some interesting ones too)

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Laowa displays new lenses for Sony | sonyalpharumors

Laowa showed off some new lenses and some other new gear they announced before: The 10mm f/4.0 is a pancake lens for MFT and APS-C system cameras LAOWA Mini FFii 85mm F5.6 Macro 2:1 Full Frame lens LAOWA FF S 20mm F4.0 C-Dreamer SHIFT lens for Full Frame system cameras LAOWA FFii 12-24mm F5.6...
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nandbytes said:
Looks like new laowa lenses are coming (some interesting ones too)

www.sonyalpharumors.com

Laowa displays new lenses for Sony | sonyalpharumors

Laowa showed off some new lenses and some other new gear they announced before: The 10mm f/4.0 is a pancake lens for MFT and APS-C system cameras LAOWA Mini FFii 85mm F5.6 Macro 2:1 Full Frame lens LAOWA FF S 20mm F4.0 C-Dreamer SHIFT lens for Full Frame system cameras LAOWA FFii 12-24mm F5.6...
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very nice - I have sent you a PM or 2 fella :)

Les
 
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