The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

robj20 said:
What's lacking in animal eye AF. Not noticed anything leaving with mine keeps up with the cat no issue.
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It can do just about every animal including birds, appears much better and more consistent than Sony.
 
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Stephen L said:
My first shot with the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 E on the A7C. Finally got this lens on Wednesday after it spent a couple of days in a DPD trunker going p and down the country, visiting Birmingham, Aberdeen, and Bradford before landing with me.

Stairs by Stephen Lee, on Flickr
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Nice, I want the f1.2 SE version eventually.

snerkler said:
This appears very impressive, I'd certainly find it very useful


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Not sure if Sony could do something via firmware, or whether it requires better processors.
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Not tried mine with birds, doubt I have a long enough lens for it to even see the eyes.
 
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Stephen L said:
My first shot with the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 E on the A7C. Finally got this lens on Wednesday after it spent a couple of days in a DPD trunker going p and down the country, visiting Birmingham, Aberdeen, and Bradford before landing with me.
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Any early thoughts?

I wouldn't be without mine.
 
nandbytes said:
doesn't work on birds or most wildlife and even on domestic animals not great for tracking like it is with humans.
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Does on the A7C so I see no reason it wouldn't be on any new Sony camera as well. Animal eye AF works just as well on the cat as human eyeAF does on humans.
 
robj20 said:
Does on the A7C so I see no reason it wouldn't be on any new Sony camera as well. Animal eye AF works just as well on the cat as human eyeAF does on humans.
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not in my experience even on the A7C. though I don't have a cat to try it on a huge lot. just my neighbours cat that's in our garden every so often.
But I do shoot plenty birds and other wildlife like deer for example and its a lost cause with them.
Don't get me wrong subject tracking it great but doesn't do eyeAF for them like it would for humans. R5 seems to be able to do just that with just about any wildlife.
 
woof woof said:
Any early thoughts?

I wouldn't be without mine.
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Yes. It’s staying on the camera. :D Absolute delight to use, and far sharper in Lightroom than this suggests. The bubbly bokeh (which doesn’t bother me) smooths out by f2.8. Great colour rendition which needs little correction. A keeper. The more I use manual primes the more I’m convinced that this is what the camera was designed for.
 
Stephen L said:
Yes. It’s staying on the camera. :D Absolute delight to use, and far sharper in Lightroom than this suggests. The bubbly bokeh (which doesn’t bother me) smooths out by f2.8. Great colour rendition which needs little correction. A keeper. The more I use manual primes the more I’m convinced that this is what the camera was designed for.
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Yup.

imo most of the criticisms of this lens are really just nit picking pixel peeping worries.
 
Stephen L said:
Yes. It’s staying on the camera. :D Absolute delight to use, and far sharper in Lightroom than this suggests. The bubbly bokeh (which doesn’t bother me) smooths out by f2.8. Great colour rendition which needs little correction. A keeper. The more I use manual primes the more I’m convinced that this is what the camera was designed for.
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Where did you order from. Bugs me that the likes of panamoz and E-infinity don't sell them.
 
I got my Voigtlander 50mm f2 from camerainthepost because they were hard to get in the UK at the time. I think I got my 35mm f1.4 and 40mm f1.2 from Robert White.

Have you asked if they'd get one for you? Maybe just not on the site but maybe would supply on request?
 
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robj20 said:
Where did you order from. Bugs me that the likes of panamoz and E-infinity don't sell them.
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Got this one from MPB, used. Previously bought new from Ffordes (they had the 21mm when no-one else had it in stock) but the likes of Wex and Park Cameras also list them. Don't like those two dealers, though.
 
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Robert White have an ex demo 35mm f1.4 for £579, small scratch on the barrel though :( New is £647. Have to say for that saving I'd buy the new one.

MPB, £384. Tempting. But I have one :D
 
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Bobsyeruncle said:
It does.
I was taking pics today of a Robin and the eye af was working....
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you have an A9 no?
no idea how good or bad that is with animal eyeAF but makes sense that its better than A7RIV or A7C.
Though A9 doesn't seem to have the same hype around it as R5.... not sure if that's just hype or if R5 is better at animal eyeAF
 
nandbytes said:
you have an A9 no?
no idea how good or bad that is with animal eyeAF but makes sense that its better than A7RIV or A7C.
Though A9 doesn't seem to have the same hype around it as R5.... not sure if that's just hype or if R5 is better at animal eyeAF
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Ah, sorry yes it's an A9....
 
nandbytes said:
you have an A9 no?
no idea how good or bad that is with animal eyeAF but makes sense that its better than A7RIV or A7C.
Though A9 doesn't seem to have the same hype around it as R5.... not sure if that's just hype or if R5 is better at animal eyeAF
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A9 isn't going to get any attention from reviewers due to the age but i've found it nails the eye on birds, takes some practice though.
 
imattersuk said:
A9 isn't going to get any attention from reviewers due to the age but i've found it nails the eye on birds, takes some practice though.
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IDK if the animal eyeAF was as good and responsive I feel like it would have got the attention at least when the A9II came out.

I think @addicknchips is the only one who's had both the R6 and A9/ii bodies... not sure how much birds he's shot but would be interesting hear his opinion on the matters if he knows anything.

Even if A9/ii as good as R5 they have lower MP. I'd like a higher MP body with AF on the same level as R5 at least.
 
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nandbytes said:
IDK if the animal eyeAF was as good and responsive I feel like it would have got the attention at least when the A9II came out.

I think @addicknchips is the only one who's had both the R6 and A9/ii bodies... not sure how much birds he's shot but would be interesting hear his opinion on the matters if he knows anything.

Even if A9/ii as good as R5 they have lower MP. I'd like a higher MP body with AF on the same level as R5 at least.
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i didnt really do any birding at all with either the r6 or a9/ii.
the R6 tracks as well as the a9 from what im seeing. and the animal eye af looks to be better.

if this new a9iii is going to be 50mp i wonder how good its going to be in low light. not impressed with the r4 in that regard.
 
personally I don't really shoot above ISO 6400. At that range even the latest APS-C bodies do well enough.

So ISO performance doesn't concern me a huge lot tbh, I'd personally take higher dynamic range over better high ISO performance.

From everything I have read and seen the animal eyeAF on the canon R5/6 seem better than A9ii. some reviewers like DPreview says subject tracking is still better on A9ii but considering my subjects I track are mostly animals and humans, eyeAF really helps.

R5 is costs £1000 more though and not a lot of RF lenses I have liked so far :(
 
LeeRatters said:
A9 animal eye AF my AR$E ;)

A7 & Contax 80-200mm manual focus zoom ;)

ISO 1000 & 1/25 shutter :) I guess the aperture was f/4......


*** by Lee, on Flickr


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wonderful colours
but the last one would have been in focus if you had animal eyeAF ;)
 
nandbytes said:
IDK if the animal eyeAF was as good and responsive I feel like it would have got the attention at least when the A9II came out.

I think @addicknchips is the only one who's had both the R6 and A9/ii bodies... not sure how much birds he's shot but would be interesting hear his opinion on the matters if he knows anything.

Even if A9/ii as good as R5 they have lower MP. I'd like a higher MP body with AF on the same level as R5 at least.
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I’m pretty sure nothing’s been as good at animal eye AF tbh. If there were then there wouldn’t have been such a song and dance about the R5, and we’d see a lot more direct comparison videos.

My A7RIV’s picked up on some random eyes such as meerkats but it’s far from consistent and far from reliable.
 
Although the a9mkII does not have bird eye AF it's uncanny how most times the eye is sharp on bif shots ,i tend to use wide AF so can't say quite were the points are at the time i press the shutter but it is the best camera iv ever used.

Rob.
 
GyRob said:
Although the a9mkII does not have bird eye AF it's uncanny how most times the eye is sharp on bif shots ,i tend to use wide AF so can't say quite were the points are at the time i press the shutter but it is the best camera iv ever used.

Rob.
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I was sure the A9ii has bird eyeAF? How come? The A7iii has it.

*edit, maybe officially it only has 'animal EyeAF' but if the bird is clear like in the R5 video above then my A7iii picks up the eye.
 
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dcash29 said:
Where is the Bird AF on the A7m3?
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As above in my edit, if I have animal eye AF turned on then it will pick up birds eye
 
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