The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

I received negative feedback from @tattywelshie because his pride got hurt. We all chose to ask questions when we enquire about certain items and we all choose to respond or not, that’s called freedom of speech... and Yes, we can all change our minds. That’s why these threads are littered with people buying into one Brand or another, singing it’s Praises and then moving on to another Brand without a bye or leave.....
 
Unlike most on here I have a thick skin, so while it may irk me “in the moment’ I move on...
 
Gandalf said:
I received negative feedback from @tattywelshie because his pride got hurt. We all chose to ask questions when we enquire about certain items and we all choose to respond or not, that’s called freedom of speech... and Yes, we can all change our minds. That’s why these threads are littered with people buying into one Brand or another, singing it’s Praises and then moving on to another Brand without a bye or leave.....
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I get that, but it wouldn't do any harm to let the sellers know that you're no longer interested rather than ignoring them, especially if you've agreed to buy it.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
I get that, but it wouldn't do any harm to let the sellers know that you're no longer interested rather than ignoring them, especially if you've agreed to buy it.
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Point Taken.
 
Gandalf said:
Unlike most on here I have a thick skin, so while it may irk me “in the moment’ I move on...
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Just seen the thread, if Jonathan said he was going to post it today, he probably did. I imagine there is good reason he hasn’t been on here today but he is a sound guy.

Odd that you came on here to essentially call out one it it’s regular contributors.
 
TGphoto said:
Just seen the thread, if Jonathan said he was going to post it today, he probably did. I imagine there is good reason he hasn’t been on here today but he is a sound guy.

Odd that you came on here to essentially call out one it it’s regular contributors.
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I was checking as I’d asked Jonathan to send to my work address and wanted to let the front desk know to expect something.

I never came on here tonight to call anyone out.
 
We're in the pub, aren't we? The more we drink, the shoutier we get. This thread purported from its title to be about a certain range of camera models - which could be useful, but what happens? People rabbit on vaguely about their shopping ambitions, and are now being shouty in a way that's off-topic to the thread title.

Does it matter? In cosmic terms, no, it doesn't. But some of us are strapped for time & come here to give & to learn. And the bulk of waffle in this thread is non-productive.
 
droj said:
We're in the pub, aren't we? The more we drink, the shoutier we get. This thread purported from its title to be about a certain range of camera models - which could be useful, but what happens? People rabbit on vaguely about their shopping ambitions, and are now being shouty in a way that's off-topic to the thread title.

Does it matter? In cosmic terms, no, it doesn't. But some of us are strapped for time & come here to give & to learn. And the bulk of waffle in this thread is non-productive.
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90% of this thread is waffle :D
Personally I like it because it's a change from the standard boring gear thread.
But most people are helpful in answering questions when asked something :)
 
justa1972 said:
Hummm thats a bit disappointing...
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Yes it is. Was about to pull the trigger on this lens along with the Sony 85mm f1.8 but that review has out me off somewhat. Now considering the Samyang 35mm f1.4/

Anyone got any experience or views on the Samyang? its £40 chepaer than the Sony 1.8 @ e-infinity.
 
Lucien said:
Yes it is. Was about to pull the trigger on this lens along with the Sony 85mm f1.8 but that review has out me off somewhat. Now considering the Samyang 35mm f1.4/

Anyone got any experience or views on the Samyang? its £40 chepaer than the Sony 1.8 @ e-infinity.
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Samyangs alright, Sigma is the best af 35 1.4 for the system.
 
twist said:
While I enjoy using my camera I wouldn't miss it, its a replaceable 'thing', I have no real attachment to it, I have a huge attachment to the images I've taken though, or rather the content.
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I agree on my current cameras (A6500 and A7ii). But I have definitely read stories of pro photographers being emotionally attached to their particular camera.
 
Lucien said:
Yes it is. Was about to pull the trigger on this lens along with the Sony 85mm f1.8 but that review has out me off somewhat. Now considering the Samyang 35mm f1.4/

Anyone got any experience or views on the Samyang? its £40 chepaer than the Sony 1.8 @ e-infinity.
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I would watch and read more reviews, personally I think the 35mm f1.8 a great little lens :)
 
droj said:
Generally true, but overall it's a conspiracy of lenses, sensors and processing engines. And high resolution isn't always a benefit, especially in the digital realm, which can easily incline to the clinical. It seems to me that film, even if of the larger formats, had a certain texture.

In the end, we need to be satisfied by an image emotionally. If an image is just in essence a technical exposition, it's not going to travel far.
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I can agree with that. And to stretch the car analogy a bit, it's the trips we make with the car that are most important. Is it involving, fun, practical, does the car suit the journey, etc? Lots of car trips are just ways of getting from A to B - doing those in a Caterham would not be my idea of fun. Just as a road trip around Wales in a Honda Jazz would be a wasted opportunity.

And I suppose I think of Leica the same way I think of (say) Porsche or Ferrari. (Even if the design aesthetics couldn't be more different.)
 
Lucien said:
Yes it is. Was about to pull the trigger on this lens along with the Sony 85mm f1.8 but that review has out me off somewhat. Now considering the Samyang 35mm f1.4/

Anyone got any experience or views on the Samyang? its £40 chepaer than the Sony 1.8 @ e-infinity.
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get the FE35/1.8

I think its a perspective problem than anything else. Its the sharpest lens of its class (i.e. 35mm f1.8-2 type lenses) to start with. people were expecting it to be otus level sharp and it isn't. big surprise!

Here are a couple more reviews:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-sony-fe-35mm-f1-8/

And one by Roger from lens rentals who will not publish or test any lens unless he can test at least 10 copies:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/20...m-f1-4-gm-sony-35mm-f1-8-tamron-35mm-f1-4-sp/

"Like the 24mm, the Sony 35mm f/1.8 is exceptionally good. There’s no question that Sony has been cranking out one excellent lens after another lately, and this is coming from someone who ravaged the first, and many of the second, generation Sony FE lenses."
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
I suppose that comes under the "anything else welcome"
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In my defence by anything else welcome I did primarily mean anything Sony and anything Sony compatible :D

I actually don't mind the meandering from time to time but I do wish people could take a breath and be a little less argumentative. A couple of posts to clarify a point seems ok but to carry on little spats isn't nice, imo. We should all be friends here :D
 
droj said:
Generally true, but overall it's a conspiracy of lenses, sensors and processing engines. And high resolution isn't always a benefit, especially in the digital realm, which can easily incline to the clinical. It seems to me that film, even if of the larger formats, had a certain texture.

In the end, we need to be satisfied by an image emotionally. If an image is just in essence a technical exposition, it's not going to travel far.

It's about communication. Otherwise, why bother? Guts are more important than tech.
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Now I don't have a *wide* experience of digital camera kit, but to me the clinicality of an image is all based in the post-processing - it's a choice to make the image appear like that or not.

Now it may be that the camera output happens towards a clinical image - and I would consider that an absolute positive, because it gives the operator many more options than if the camera stomped all over the image - and it may then be that all some users do is set levels & exposure & hit export, so you see a clinical image that appears unsatisfying. Contrary to film, where most people had no choice about their output and only the most skillful and well equiped (or well financed) could do anything significant about shaping their output, we are lucky to have some incredible tools.

Now it may also be that some users ONLY want the crispest, cleanest, best-corrected image possible, and that's fine too. The only time it's a problem is when there's a 'boots enprint' mentality.
 
Lucien said:
Yes it is. Was about to pull the trigger on this lens along with the Sony 85mm f1.8 but that review has out me off somewhat. Now considering the Samyang 35mm f1.4/

Anyone got any experience or views on the Samyang? its £40 chepaer than the Sony 1.8 @ e-infinity.
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You were about to buy a Sony 35mm f1.8?

I wouldn't let that review put me off. I've posted some pretty worst case scenarios with trees and foliage and the like and there's a good thread on FM that someone posted a link to earlier.

The Sony f1.8 may not be perfect but even so I think it's a very good lens... fast focus, close focus, sharp across the frame from wide open and acceptable if not world beating bokeh. The only real issue that I accept is probably the ca but it's only an issue in a tiny percentage of pictures and sometimes only visible when pixel peeping. I've shown my worst examples to people and believe me it's a non issue to ordinary people :D
 
ancient_mariner said:
Now I don't have a *wide* experience of digital camera kit, but to me the clinicality of an image is all based in the post-processing - it's a choice to make the image appear like that or not.

Now it may be that the camera output happens towards a clinical image - and I would consider that an absolute positive, because it gives the operator many more options than if the camera stomped all over the image - and it may then be that all some users do is set levels & exposure & hit export, so you see a clinical image that appears unsatisfying. Contrary to film, where most people had no choice about their output and only the most skillful and well equiped (or well financed) could do anything significant about shaping their output, we are lucky to have some incredible tools.

Now it may also be that some users ONLY want the crispest, cleanest, best-corrected image possible, and that's fine too. The only time it's a problem is when there's a 'boots enprint' mentality.
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When people moan about kit being clinical and too good I think back to my film days and being stuck at ISO 1600 and 1/60 trying to photograph people at music events, you can imagine the results, and also to my Canon 20D. I had that camera for over 7 years and I was mostly happy with it but one problem was that I couldn't expose for the highlights and raise the shadows post capture as even at ISO 100 with a mild boost the noise overpowered everything. Even my 5D was limited by a very low by todays standards maximum ISO and with an f1.4 lens in low light I'd still have an unusable shutter speed for people shots. We may be spoilt these days but we have far more opportunities to take useable pictures and that has to be a good thing.
 
Hugh Grant using a sony camera in The Gentleman movie (trailer). Surprised it wasn't a canon lol
so which lens and body? :D

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Oh that's easy. It's a MK1 Sony A7 with Voigtlander 35mm f1.4. A gentleman wouldn't use anything else :D
 
now I know why manufacturers really make huge white lenses. Its so that they stick out in product placement and none of the heating/reflecting light bullocks lol
 
woof woof said:
Oh that's easy. It's a MK1 Sony A7 with Voigtlander 35mm f1.4. A gentleman wouldn't use anything else :D
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I noticed them using Sony form the trailers (y) Just watched Silent Witness last night and they're sticking with Nikon, for now. Wonder how long that will last? ;)
 
Gandalf said:
I was checking as I’d asked Jonathan to send to my work address and wanted to let the front desk know to expect something.

I never came on here tonight to call anyone out.
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have just seen this as don't think i was online yesterday. apologies - i had planned to post yesterday. my place of business has recently been acquired by another company and i was unfortunately stuck on call with the US most of the afternoon yesterday so was unable to post as planned. i should have sent a PM to keep you up to speed but it was also my wife's birthday and it just turned into one of those days.

i have however posted it this morning (along with the free unused battery that i included as a gesture of goodwill). just ping me a pm next time if i need chasing on something.
 
f/2.8 said:
They are popping up a lot in t.v and movies have seen quite a few in the last couple of months. Sony must be really pushing the boat out on product placement.
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Well considering they own one of the few large remaining production houses, I wonder why it took them so long lol ;)
 
nandbytes said:
Well considering they own one of the few large remaining production houses, I wonder why it took them so long lol ;)
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All of their businesses are run as separate entities so they will have to pay themselves for product placement.
 
Thanks for all the responses regarding the Sony /Samyang 35mm lens'. I will look at the other linked reviews later but I'm swerving back to the Sony based on what you've all said this morning. I prefer it's more compact size anyway and by all accounts its a good lens.
 
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