The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

addicknchips said:
i have doubts Sigma would release a compact and lightweight anything going by the other glass released this year.
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They've tended to head for the top end of the f1.4 market but didn't he (Mr Sigma) recently say that CSC users value compactness more than sharpness and this has given him something to think about? Or something like that.

Maybe I'm just hoping... but it's annoying that we still haven't got one when it's arguably a staple basic lens.

If we get one from Sony pleeeeease let them not use the crappy hunting focus system they're used in some of their cheaper lenses.
 
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woof woof said:
They've tended to head for the top end of the f1.4 market but didn't he (Mr Sigma) recently say that CSC users value compactness more than sharpness and this has given him something to think about? Or something like that.

Maybe I'm just hoping... but it's annoying that we still haven't got one when it's arguably a staple basic lens.
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i hadn't read that. they may be onto something if they put some focus on quality optics for the apsc line too.
 
woof woof said:
A compact and reasonably priced 35mm f1.8 would make things easier and is such a sensible thing it does make me wonder why Sony haven't done one yet. I think Sigma could be more likely. I hope we get one from someone one day but at the moment a compact f2.8 or a big f1.4 are the only 35mm AF choices.
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So true! It would sell like hotcakes!
 
twist said:
Sigmas APSC line up is excellent. Have you looked at it?
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ive heard good things about their latest stuff (16mm & 56) but very mixed about the earlier stuff. personally find the sony apsc cameras horrible to use to don't pay mega attention to them.
 
addicknchips said:
ive heard good things about their latest stuff (16mm & 56) but very mixed about the earlier stuff. personally find the sony apsc cameras horrible to use to don't pay mega attention to them.
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All of the Sigma (E mount) APSC lenses are rated pretty highly. Especially the new DNs (16/30/56), the older stuff is very sharp and very cheap.
 
The 30mm f/1.4 and 60mm f/2.8 Sigmas on Sony APSC are absolute stunners, amazing for the money.
 
Sony A7iii 4K vs the rest, Fuji and BMPCC dodgy ISO, Nikons skin tones LOL, Canon noisy.

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twist said:
Sony A7iii 4K vs the rest, Fuji and BMPCC dodgy ISO, Nikons skin tones LOL, Canon noisy.

SKIP to 4:45.

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Why no GH5s I wonder? It's the only one that can compete with the 7III for video - also wtf with the green skin on that Nikon! :eek::puke:
 
woof woof said:
They've tended to head for the top end of the f1.4 market but didn't he (Mr Sigma) recently say that CSC users value compactness more than sharpness and this has given him something to think about? Or something like that.

Maybe I'm just hoping... but it's annoying that we still haven't got one when it's arguably a staple basic lens.

If we get one from Sony pleeeeease let them not use the crappy hunting focus system they're used in some of their cheaper lenses.
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I think there may be issues designing a light weight small 35mm f/1.8 for E-Mount.

It’s odd that that they didn’t try to do it instead of the f/2.8 version.

I have a feeling based on nothing at all that a 35mm f/1.8 wouldn’t be that much smaller than the f/1.4 versions which is why there hasn’t been one introduced already.
 
Cagey75 said:
Interesting, going by the comments from users of both low light is the only dept the Sony beats it though. I don't really do video, but I wonder how many videographers actually shoot at 50K ISO!
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Theres a stop difference in light at lower ISO, to achieve the same exposure you'll be adding a stop on top of the GH5s even at low ISO to match the Sonys exposure, its weird how it loses that stop loss at 20k. The noise creeps into the GH5s image at ISO20k though.

Quite a lot is my guess or there wouldn't be a market for the A7iii / A7S or other manufacturers FF models in terms of video. The GH5s is very good for video though, Panasonic are in general just need to sort out OSPDAF.
 
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twist said:
Theres a stop difference in light at lower ISO, to achieve the same exposure you'll be adding a stop on top of the GH5s even at low ISO to match the Sonys exposure, its weird how it loses that stop loss at 20k. The noise creeps into the GH5s image at ISO20k though.

Quite a lot is my guess or there wouldn't be a market for the A7iii / A7S or other manufacturers FF models in terms of video. The GH5s is very good for video though, Panasonic are in general just need to sort out OSPDAF.
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No denying the A7III is a bit of a powerhouse all-round.
 
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f/2.8 said:
I think there may be issues designing a light weight small 35mm f/1.8 for E-Mount.

It’s odd that that they didn’t try to do it instead of the f/2.8 version.

I have a feeling based on nothing at all that a 35mm f/1.8 wouldn’t be that much smaller than the f/1.4 versions which is why there hasn’t been one introduced already.
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The 55mm f1.8 is excellent and quite compact and they managed a 28mm f2 too so maybe it'd be possible to do a quite compact 35mm f1.8 if they wanted to. And of course there are some in DSLR land.

Dunno why no one has done one to date but looking at what has been possible within the Sony eco system and outside it can't be impossible.
 
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woof woof said:
The 55mm f1.8 is excellent and quite compact and they managed a 28mm f2 too so maybe it'd be possible to do a quite compact 35mm f1.8 if they wanted to. And of course there are some in DSLR land.

Dunno why no one has done one to date but looking at what has been possible within the Sony eco system and outside it can't be impossible.
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Big difference between a 50-55mm lens than everything else it’s far and away the easiest focal length for lens manufacturers to make. The 28mm is absolute gash and is an f/2 lens again they made a choice to not make it a f/1.8 lens.

They could easily make a 35mm f/1.8 I just think that they don’t see it as a viable option as they can’t make it small enough due to the limitations of E-Mount. No point having it the same pusillanimous size as the f/1.4 options.
 
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f/2.8 said:
Big difference between a 50-55mm lens than everything else it’s far and away the easiest focal length for lens manufacturers to make. The 28mm is absolute gash and is an f/2 lens again they made a choice to not make it a f/1.8 lens.

They could easily make a 35mm f/1.8 I just think that they don’t see it as a viable option as they can’t make it small enough due to the limitations of E-Mount. No point having it the same pusillanimous size as the f/1.4 options.
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I just don't buy any of that. I don't think I want to believe that making a compact 35mm f1.8 is impossible due to some limitation in the mount as if it is they've f****d up big time and I equally don't want to believe that a f1.8 needs to be approaching the size of the high end f1.4's as nothing we've seen to date seems to point that way. f1.8 lenses are generally smaller and lighter than f1.4's in just about any focal length I can think of. We have existing compact native mount MF f1.4 and f2 lenses and whilst adding AF may increase bulk and weight I just can't see it leading to the lens being the size of a Sony or Sigma f1.4. That just doesn't make sense to me.

As to why Sony haven't done one I can only guess. Recourses taken up doing other things? Pointing people towards the existing f2.8 or f1.4 lenses? Stupidity? Sigma seem to have been aiming at higher end f1.4's but if it's not impossible to do a compact 35mm f1.8 maybe they'll get around to it one day. If not and no one does one I may just give up one day and buy something else. Limiting my native lens line up will hopefully not make it too costly a move for me.
 
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woof woof said:
I just don't buy any of that. I don't think I want to believe that making a compact 35mm f1.8 is impossible due to some limitation in the mount as if it is they've f****d up big time and I equally don't want to believe that a f1.8 needs to be approaching the size of the high end f1.4's as nothing we've seen to date seems to point that way. f1.8 lenses are generally smaller and lighter than f1.4's in just about any focal length I can think of. We have existing compact native mount MF f1.4 and f2 lenses and whilst adding AF may increase bulk and weight I just can't see it leading to the lens being the size of a Sony or Sigma f1.4. That just doesn't make sense to me.

As to why Sony haven't done one I can only guess. Recourses taken up doing other things? Pointing people towards the existing f2.8 or f1.4 lenses? Stupidity? Sigma seem to have been aiming at higher end f1.4's but if it's not impossible to do a compact 35mm f1.8 maybe they'll get around to it one day. If not and no one does one I may just give up one day and buy something else. Limiting my native lens line up will hopefully not make it too costly a move for me.
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But what about the flange length? are there any full-frame compact mirrorless 35mm 1.8 lens out there?
 
RPhotos said:
But what about the flange length? are there any full-frame compact mirrorless 35mm 1.8 lens out there?
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I thought the shorter registration distance was suppose to help at wider FoV? Isn't that what we've been told?

As I said, I have a 35mm f1.4 that's compact, MF though and there's also a MF f2 that's also compact. Surely dropping that 35mm f1.4 to f1.8 and adding AF wouldn't make it the size of a Sony 35mm f1.4.

Lets wait and see as I bet if Sony never do one Nikon or Canon will.
 
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woof woof said:
I thought the shorter registration distance was suppose to help at wider FoV? Isn't that what we've been told?

As I said, I have a 35mm f1.4 that's compact, MF though and there's also a MF f2 that's also compact. Surely dropping that 35mm f1.4 to f1.8 and adding AF wouldn't make it the size of a Sony 35mm f1.4.

Lets wait and see as I bet if Sony never do one Nikon or Canon will.
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There’s one dropping on the new canon mirrorless next month. 35mm f1.8 macro. Looks small and compact.

https://www.jessops.com/p/canon/rf-35mm-f-1-8-is-macro-stm-lens-159022
 
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I think a small and light 35mm1.8 AF lens is achievable you only have to look at the size and weight difference between Sony's own 85mm 1.8 and 1.4 lenses to realise that
if Sony don't do it someone else will, my bet would be on Tamron.
 
f/2.8 said:
Big difference between a 50-55mm lens than everything else it’s far and away the easiest focal length for lens manufacturers to make. The 28mm is absolute gash and is an f/2 lens again they made a choice to not make it a f/1.8 lens.

They could easily make a 35mm f/1.8 I just think that they don’t see it as a viable option as they can’t make it small enough due to the limitations of E-Mount. No point having it the same pusillanimous size as the f/1.4 options.
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I read a video guys blog the other night who was raving about the 28 f2 lens. How do you mean, gash? Still unsure what 24 to get. Might look at the 25 Batis but seems a lot of money for an occasional use lens for me, and f2.
 
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I love how a lot of these reviewers are suddenly saying that 1 card slot is not a deal breaker and that the Z7 is suddenly good for action.

I’m sure these people get paid by the companies (some Sony reviews are no exception).
 
Livin The Dream said:
I read a video guys blog the other night who was raving about the 28 f2 lens. How do you mean, gash? Still unsure what 24 to get. Might look at the 25 Batis but seems a lot of money for an occasional use lens for me, and f2.
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28 f2 seems to get a lot of love and hate!

It’s a shame that the 50mm is not just that little bit better and also didn’t extend during focus! The 28/50 combo is a good set up IMO!
 
Livin The Dream said:
I read a video guys blog the other night who was raving about the 28 f2 lens. How do you mean, gash? Still unsure what 24 to get. Might look at the 25 Batis but seems a lot of money for an occasional use lens for me, and f2.
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I had the 28mm (a few copies) and didn't like the performance at all.
 
JJ! said:
I love how a lot of these reviewers are suddenly saying that 1 card slot is not a deal breaker and that the Z7 is suddenly good for action.

I’m sure these people get paid by the companies (some Sony reviews are no exception).
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That's how they get hits, slate it one minute, then praise it the next.
 
JJ! said:
28 f2 seems to get a lot of love and hate!

It’s a shame that the 50mm is not just that little bit better and also didn’t extend during focus! The 28/50 combo is a good set up IMO!
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I'm really pleasantly surprised with the 55 zeiss. There's nothing detrimental for me between 50mm and 55mm, son get used to that. But for such a small little lens, it's great.
 
Livin The Dream said:
I'm really pleasantly surprised with the 55 zeiss. There's nothing detrimental for me between 50mm and 55mm, son get used to that. But for such a small little lens, it's great.
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Yeah the 55mm looks nice, but will take some saving for now haha!
 
Livin The Dream said:
I'm really pleasantly surprised with the 55 zeiss. There's nothing detrimental for me between 50mm and 55mm, son get used to that. But for such a small little lens, it's great.
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It isn't really a zeiss though. Just uses zeiss coatings.

I also really like the 55mm, for personal work it is great just because the I.Q is pretty good and it is so small.

In terms of performance thought the Sigma Art 50mm is a much better lens but it's huge.

If I was using a 50mm for work I would have definitely got the Sigma Art 50mm instead.

The 55mm is excellent for what I use it for though. I have it paired up along with the 24mm G.M as my light weight travel kit.
 
old bloke said:
I think a small and light 35mm1.8 AF lens is achievable you only have to look at the size and weight difference between Sony's own 85mm 1.8 and 1.4 lenses to realise that
if Sony don't do it someone else will, my bet would be on Tamron.
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Tamron did one for DSLR's and even with an adapter that lens or the similar Nikon or Canon would still be smaller than a Sony f1.4.
 
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