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You must not have watched it then, because the survey wasn't based on any make or model, just shallow DOF in general, 'certain members' just love to p*** on anything other 'certain members' post no matter, but that's been happening years and won't change.

You made the claim that the video justifies your position and whined about 'certain members', I'm making the point the two videos are unrelated and you have a chip on your shoulder over 'certain members' because you keep going on about them even when no one else has brought it up.
 
You made the claim that the video justifies your position and whined about 'certain members', I'm making the point the two videos are unrelated and you have a chip on your shoulder over 'certain members' because you keep going on about them even when no one else has brought it up.

No, I posted the same video in three different threads, the only one whining now is you! again! You jumped into one thread you knew naff all about - didn't even watch the video and starting ranting like you are right now. And it is Ray who brought up 'certain members' above right here, and I played up on it. You clearly haven't been reading here either, you just have some weird hard 'un for me :D bless your cotton socks, you're not the only one. You're one of them posters who never contributes anything but nit-picking, no change today then?

Suggest you take Soeren's advice, go watch the video and maybe learn something
 
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No, I posted the same video in three different threads, the only one whining now is you! again! You jumped into one thread you knew naff all about - didn't even watch the video and starting ranting like you are right now. And it is Ray who brought up 'certain members' above right here, and I played up on it. You clearly haven't been reading here either, you just have some weird hard 'un for me :D bless your cotton socks, you're not the only one. You're one of them posters who never contributes anything but nit-picking, no change today then?

Suggest you take Soeren's advice, go watch the video and maybe learn something

You posted the video because it agrees with your prejudices, I watched the video and I still disagree with it, take the dog photo as an example, he's got the body blurred in one and the other isn't and amazingly people find more detail in the latter, none of which detracts from my original point they're just tools to achieve a result.

I did miss Raymond bringing it up (although for a different subject) but then again you've been going on about them so long it's hard to notice but then so many of your posts are abusive.
 
You posted the video because it agrees with your prejudices, I watched the video and I still disagree with it, take the dog photo as an example, he's got the body blurred in one and the other isn't and amazingly people find more detail in the latter, none of which detracts from my original point they're just tools to achieve a result.

I did miss Raymond bringing it up (although for a different subject) but then again you've been going on about them so long it's hard to notice but then so many of your posts are abusive.

Prejudice? or what I see as fact? You may like to think you know a lot more than the average person when it comes to what makes an image, but it's the general everyday person who we shoot for mostly. If they're not impressed by the 90% bokeh of your image then you're only pleasing yourself with it. And that's fine, if that's what you love ... it's just not everybody does, and that video shows in fact that most prefer more detail. Why was the Northrup video posted this morning? Particularly in here? Because it suited some folk and their way of thinking. I'm no different, yes of course I post things that I agree with, or that back up points I'm making, I am hardly going to go against myself! :D You can take or leave these examples too you know? I don't 'go on' about anything, I just state my point/case same as every other regular on here. There is only a bunch that post daily, and we do clash, but end of the day a lot of it is willy waving nonsense, nobody is really changing anyone else's stubborn mindset.

Ironically, the video this morning is one I agreed with. You missed that part too perhaps? I think 'colour science' is BS, no matter the gear. I also agree that these format and brand wars are pathetic, they're no better than console wars or PC [The 'master' race - FF] vs console [lesser peasant tech, smaller sensors?]. But they go on daily across forums too. And it's mostly grown ass men too! The kids just get on with the playing.
 
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Brand loyalty is the business :cool:

Sony > Nikon > Canon > the rest of the muck

I.O.S > Android

M&S > Sainsburys > Tesco > Asda
 
Brand loyalty is the business :cool:

Sony > Nikon > Canon > the rest of the muck

I.O.S > Android

M&S > Sainsburys > Tesco > Asda

Lidl Bakery Cheese Twists beat all other twists - FACT
 
Brand loyalty is the business :cool:

Sony > Nikon > Canon > the rest of the muck

I.O.S > Android

M&S > Sainsburys > Tesco > Asda

I knew it! You had to be an Apple boi :D

Tesco > the rest for me, just for convenience and variety, the M&S here are terrible, they only cater to the knobs who want prawns, wine and mouldy cheese :D I certainly wouldn't do a full shop in there. We don't have the others, there's Super Value, Centra then the usual German twins
 
I knew I should’ve unsubscribed earlier [emoji30]
 
Brand loyalty is the business :cool:

Sony > Nikon > Canon > the rest of the muck

I.O.S > Android

M&S > Sainsburys > Tesco > Asda

Lol, I won't go into cameras but for the supermarkets I agree.....but replace M&S with Waitrose purely because M&S closes too early.
 
Omg this thread now gone off topic
 
OMG NO!! ... not the first time. Easily pulled back too ...

SONY! How about that A7III huh? seems a'ight :D



I wonder what camera he'd shoot with today?

A7R3 I reckon, was a sucker for high detailed beards.
 
I knew it! You had to be an Apple boi :D

Tesco > the rest for me, just for convenience and variety, the M&S here are terrible, they only cater to the knobs who want prawns, wine and mouldy cheese :D I certainly wouldn't do a full shop in there. We don't have the others, there's Super Value, Centra then the usual German twins

We have SuperValue too seems to be mostly for homeless people, vagrants and alcoholics. The micro 4/3's of supermarkets.

Lol, I won't go into cameras but for the supermarkets I agree.....but replace M&S with Waitrose purely because M&S closes too early.

We don’t have Waitrose unfortunately
 
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We don’t have Waitrose unfortunately

Within 1 mile radius, I can get to all of them including Aldi, Lidi, Morrisons, Iceland, M&S, Tesco x 2, Sainsbury's, Co-op, the Range.

I normally go to Sainsbury's, but on the way, I will drive pass a Co-op, Morrion's, Waitrose, Tesco and Aldi and it's only a 5min drive.
 
Within 1 mile radius, I can get to all of them including Aldi, Lidi, Morrisons, Iceland, M&S, Tesco x 2, Sainsbury's, Co-op, the Range.

I normally go to Sainsbury's, but on the way, I will drive pass a Co-op, Morrion's, Waitrose, Tesco and Aldi and it's only a 5min drive.

We don't have Aldi or Morrison's either.

There used to be one Morrisons but its gone now.
 
We have SuperValue too seems to be mostly for homeless people, vagrants and alcoholics. The micro 4/3's of supermarkets.


AH! That'll be why I love it! :D

I never shop in SV tbh, mostly Tesco and Centra, because that one is down the road.
 
Lidl Bakery Cheese Twists beat all other twists - FACT

I like ASDA lightly salted tortilla chip, 41p a bag. Mrs WW say it's like eating paper.

DoF and colour science seem insignificant when compared to something I can eat and lets not get onto if you put the milk in before the tea or jam on a scone before or after cream.
 
I can't get it out of my head now.

It was soon as you quoted me the lyrics played out in my head and I was like "AHA!" :D I grew up listening to the Beatles, along with Cream, Hendrix, The Animals, The Kinks etc ... all on vinyl too, my Dad kept his collection pretty good :) until we got our hands on it that is! :/

Right, I'll leave this thread now and let them get back to their shopping wars .. :D
 
I think a lot of this 'colour science' will be influenced by White Balance settings, and how the cameras measure the light situation, (if Auto WB) or how the presets are set by each manufacturer if they are used.

I shoot in the RAW format on my cameras, and for the last few years have made a custom profile using a Colorchecker Passport to get more accurate colours from each camera. Because of this both my current cameras Nikon D500 and Sony RX100III open up looking pretty much the same. I have no interest in how the Jpegs look and always thought meh when people went on about 'colour science'. Especially when a lot will have been using RAW instead of Jpegs anyway. As long as they are happy eh! ;)

I would love to be in a position to do a more widespread comparison of different cameras and brands with regards to colours just out of interest. I like what Tony Northrup has done though. :D
 
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