The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

addicknchips said:
Thanks for the compliments.

Love the little zeiss 55mm. I never used the 50 focal length much before getting that lens and genuinely believe it changed the way I shoot. It was the first lens I bought when I got an original a7 years ago and I was blown away by it. By far my favourite lens for the system.

The sigma 50mm is mind blowing, but it’s too much of a chore to carry about for my liking. Same with the sigma 85 - oversized imo. I have the canon 85 f1.2 and plan to keep hold of it for some time if I can.
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Good to hear another thumbs up for the 55, looking forward to getting mine Thursday. I decided on the weight aspect too in the end, suits the way I enjoy to shoot, I don’t want to over balance the body at that FL.
 
From the Sony rumours site from the head of Sigma China.

Actually we’ve noticed that mirrorless users values compactness over shear sharpness, so we are thinking about going that direction.

Would be nice to see some smaller Sigma Art lenses.
 
f/2.8 said:
From the Sony rumours site from the head of Sigma China.

Actually we’ve noticed that mirrorless users values compactness over shear sharpness, so we are thinking about going that direction.

Would be nice to see some smaller Sigma Art lenses.
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I guess it's about finding the balance in size vs IQ. I don't mind a larger lens providing it has other benefits.
 
On that note, all you guys wanting smaller lenses will be selling off your Sigma Art collection so drop me a PM with those bargains :D
 
damianmkv said:
How poor is the original a7 in terms of focus speed ? I have a d500 as my "main" camera and an Olympus e-m10 mk2 + 20mm f17 and 12-32 as my travel camera.

My travel camera doesn't need real quick focussing. But yesterday I had it in London on a river cruise at dusk and even iso800 is quite noisy. That said, I was able to shot at really low SS ( 1/5s ) hand held as night drew in..

My question is what are the lenses I'd need to get to replicate my set up ? I have no knowledge of the Sony lenses really. Also, if they are comparatively large, am I best off sticking with Nikon ?
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The A7 is no speed demon but more than good enough for static people and scenic shots and it'll just about cope with someone at walking speed. That's been my experience anyway. The face detect works quite well, IMO, but I'm not used to the latest kit so the fact that it works at all seems like Voodoo to me. I don't know anything about the D500 but I know a little about MFT as I've had it since the early days. I'd say that an A7 and any of the AF lenses I have (28-70mm, 35mm f2.8, 55mm f1.8 and 85mm f1.8) is possibly not all that bad comparted to the 20mm f1.7 for speed as that lens isn't the quickest. IQ wise an A7 is ahead of the latest MFT 16 and 20mp sensors if you go looking for the differences.

I find all ISO's up to and including the max to be useable with care and basic processing and I've posted lots of high ISO shots here but good luck finding them :D If you're really interested I could (somehow) send you some raws to play with or I'm sure you could Google your way to some raws to download.

One thing to think about with the early cameras is sensor reflections with some lenses in some situations but I can't say it's ever bothered me. Other than that I think that an A7 and a compact lens or two could be well worth a serious look if you don't need a speed demon.

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Lens wise you could look at the Samyang 35mm f2.8 and the 28-70mm kit lens.
 
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f/2.8 said:
From the Sony rumours site from the head of Sigma China.

Actually we’ve noticed that mirrorless users values compactness over shear sharpness, so we are thinking about going that direction.

Would be nice to see some smaller Sigma Art lenses.
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A compact 35mm f1.8 anyone?

I had a play with my Nikon pre ai 35mm f2.8 and 50mm f2 the other day and the main problems are flare and vignetting but the former could be helped by a hood and the latter is within the range my CS5 can cope with. Stopped down sharpness across the frame stands up well enough for me and as with most of my old lenses these two are good enough for many situations and if these old lenses aren't all that bad I'm pretty sure that any modern lens that isn't a state of the art example of sheer sharpness will be good enough too. So bring them on Sigma.
 
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f/2.8 said:
From the Sony rumours site from the head of Sigma China.

Actually we’ve noticed that mirrorless users values compactness over shear sharpness, so we are thinking about going that direction.

Would be nice to see some smaller Sigma Art lenses.
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Well that haven't really considered mirrorless in their lens designs at all yet, they just stuck the FE mount on their DSLR lenses... I'm still gutted my old Sigma 50mm f1.4 doesn't work adapted on Sony :(
 
I wonder if they take the senor glass thickness into consideration? I wonder if they do more than just bung an adapter on?

I read some time ago that it does matter but I don't know how close you have to look to see that it matters.

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I had the old Sigma 50 and 85mm f1.4's and at the time I couldn't imagine wanting better lenses but I have to admit that the Sony 55 and 85mm f1.8's are better... they're only f1.8 though.
 
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damianmkv said:
How poor is the original a7 in terms of focus speed ? I have a d500 as my "main" camera and an Olympus e-m10 mk2 + 20mm f17 and 12-32 as my travel camera.

My travel camera doesn't need real quick focussing. But yesterday I had it in London on a river cruise at dusk and even iso800 is quite noisy. That said, I was able to shot at really low SS ( 1/5s ) hand held as night drew in..

My question is what are the lenses I'd need to get to replicate my set up ? I have no knowledge of the Sony lenses really. Also, if they are comparatively large, am I best off sticking with Nikon ?
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The Samyang 24 and 35mm are as small as lenses can possibly get. Granted they are 2.8 but make for a great light weight travel kit.
 
NewBeetle said:
I guess it's about finding the balance in size vs IQ. I don't mind a larger lens providing it has other benefits.
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Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to sharpness for a lighter weight but I would be happy to have a lighter weight f/1.8 lens if the performance was as good instead of a heavy f/1.4 lens.

The question that the Sigma guy was asked was Sigma already has a well-established F1.4 ART prime line, what are you going to do next? Maybe even larger aperture?

So I think his answer may have been translated badly and they are possibly looking at small mirrorless lenses that won't be f/1.4.

I bought the Sony 55mm f/1.8 over the Sigma Art 50mm just because of the size, I already have the 50mm Sigma Art in Nikon mount and it's a better lens but on e mount the sheer size of it for a lens in that focal length isn't practical.
 
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The canon lads are getting a 24mm and an 85mm f/1.2 for the Canon R wonder how huge those will be.
 
Golly. Dunno about 10K but I'm sure they wont be £600-800 :D

It's interesting that all the chat here is about the Canon whereas on another site it's all about the Nikon.

One thing that does surprise me a little is that these new bodies arguably / probably lag behind the A7III in a few areas that could matter but are more expensive and people are interested. It's as if Sony are still seen as an upstart electronics company who really should be putting their resources into large screen TV's, that's a comment I read somewhere, also read lots of comments to the effect of "Not interested in Sony" and "Would never consider Sony." Fanboys all?
 
A7 and Sony 35mm f2.8 at f18. Branch swing and trying to get a sunstar…

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f/2.8 said:
Yeah, I probably wouldn't want to sharpness for a lighter weight but I would be happy to have a lighter weight f/1.8 lens if the performance was as good instead of a heavy f/1.4 lens.

The question that the Sigma guy was asked was Sigma already has a well-established F1.4 ART prime line, what are you going to do next? Maybe even larger aperture?

So I think his answer may have been translated badly and they are possibly looking at small mirrorless lenses that won't be f/1.4.

I bought the Sony 55mm f/1.8 over the Sigma Art 50mm just because of the size, I already have the 50mm Sigma Art in Nikon mount and it's a better lens but on e mount the sheer size of it for a lens in that focal length isn't practical.
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sigma should release quality affordable 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8 native zooms for e mount. that would put the cat amongst the pigeons
 
f/2.8 said:
Sigma zoom lenses as a rule have been pretty muck up until now.
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which is why they should work on new ones from the ground-up designed specific for e-mount. priced well they would sell like hot cakes for those who don't fancy spending thousands for the gm
 
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woof woof said:
Golly. Dunno about 10K but I'm sure they wont be £600-800 :D

It's interesting that all the chat here is about the Canon whereas on another site it's all about the Nikon.

One thing that does surprise me a little is that these new bodies arguably / probably lag behind the A7III in a few areas that could matter but are more expensive and people are interested. It's as if Sony are still seen as an upstart electronics company who really should be putting their resources into large screen TV's, that's a comment I read somewhere, also read lots of comments to the effect of "Not interested in Sony" and "Would never consider Sony." Fanboys all?
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I’m not sure it’s a Sony thing. I assume more likely it’s canon users are not interested in non-canons and Nikon owners are not interested in non-Nikon’s. Or at least for some.
 
Watched the F1 Grand Prix from Texas on Sunday - considering the market share Sony are reporting and everyone on here stating how good they are not one of the Pro Togs was using any Sony gear whatsoever, all were mainly Canon and some Nikon bodies but definitely no mirrorless or Sony. Looks like the camera isn't as 'revered' as some on here might like to think for the pro sports photographer?

Why hasn't there been this 'mass move' if the camera is 'so good'?

Is it just not the case of while you can salivate all day long about the spec sheets in the real world the DSLR is still better at this present time for this type of photography?
 
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Fraser Euan White said:
Watched the F1 Grand Prix from Texas on Sunday - considering the market share Sony are reporting and everyone on here stating how good they are not one of the Pro Togs was using any Sony gear whatsoever, all were mainly Canon and some Nikon bodies but definitely no mirrorless or Sony. Looks like the camera isn't as 'revered' as some on here might like to think for the pro sports photographer?

Why hasn't there been this 'mass move' if the camera is 'so good'?
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Keep on trolling :D
 
Fraser Euan White said:
Watched the F1 Grand Prix from Texas on Sunday - considering the market share Sony are reporting and everyone on here stating how good they are not one of the Pro Togs was using any Sony gear whatsoever, all were mainly Canon and some Nikon bodies but definitely no mirrorless or Sony. Looks like the camera isn't as 'revered' as some on here might like to think for the pro sports photographer?

Why hasn't there been this 'mass move' if the camera is 'so good'?

Is it just not the case of while you can salivate all day long about the spec sheets in the real world the DSLR is still better at this present time for this type of photography?
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a lot of working photographers are less obsessive about gear and understand that spending a truck load of money switching systems won't really make too much difference to their end result. nikon and canon have more options lens wise for sports and testament to that is the gear you can see being used up and down the country at sporting events. people shooting with 300mm f2.8 etc won't want to switch if that lens isn't available yet.

give it a few years and the picture will look differently im sure.
 
addicknchips said:
a lot of working photographers are less obsessive about gear and understand that spending a truck load of money switching systems won't really make too much difference to their end result. nikon and canon have more options lens wise for sports and testament to that is the gear you can see being used up and down the country at sporting events. people shooting with 300mm f2.8 etc won't want to switch if that lens isn't available yet.

give it a few years and the picture will look differently im sure.
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Cheers for that Jonathan.
 
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addicknchips said:
a lot of working photographers are less obsessive about gear and understand that spending a truck load of money switching systems won't really make too much difference to their end result. nikon and canon have more options lens wise for sports and testament to that is the gear you can see being used up and down the country at sporting events. people shooting with 300mm f2.8 etc won't want to switch if that lens isn't available yet.

give it a few years and the picture will look differently im sure.
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Don't feed the trolls.
 
Fraser Euan White said:
Cheers for that Jonathan. I shoot a lot of motorsports and from what you are saying it's the lens selection that is holding back the camera? I have no doubt that mirrorless is the future but at the moment the switch probably isn't worthwhile?
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i don't shoot motorsport but i know theres more options available for other brands currently.
There are a few options for sony now and they are clearly committed to updating the lens suite.

personally i just think if someone has a bag of canon gear for example, and has been shooting with it professionally for x amount of years - they are likely to use their gear until it stops working or when they feel its no longer up to the job. there wouldn't be a lot of reasons to switch. Because something may be technically "better" doesn't mean its better suited to everyone. if they are happy with the canon feel and output/colour etc that may be a factor not to switch.

pro sports photography doesn't pay anywhere near what it used to either so i would think that may be a factor too.

one things for sure - they won't want to switch to the canikon mirrorless offerings for sports.
 
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