The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

PauBass said:
Yes, I get a lot of misfires, even if I turn it off it still happens, it really is super annoying!
I have everything running the latest firmwares and it still happens. It is worst with the Xpro transmitter than with the X1.

It also happens with the flash mounted on the camera, in both my a7iii and a9 cameras.
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Have u tried cleaning the hot shoe contacts?
 
Gadget-Guy said:
First go with the A7III on native glass as hired the 70-200.

Big learning curve over both the Canon and Fuji cameras i have used with a few things i love and a few things i hate.

Really need to get my hands on an A9 for a play as although i love the dynamic range of this one the A/F struggles still with bikes and the slight lag on the EVF in use and turning on is a pain.

Still trying to work out if its worth selling up all the Canon gear for a move over as although i am stopping covering BSB i will still attend a few meetings to take images but love the weight saving the new 400 f2.8 would give over my 300 and 500 primes and pair of 1DX MKII's.

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I have had an a7iii for a few moths and I know also have an a9 that I got a couple of weeks ago I have to say the a9's autofocus and speed is way above that of the a7iii.
Last week I was photographing a birthday part in a pretty dark club, a7iii really struggled at focusing no matter what area I was using, on the ohter hand the a9 had no problems whatsoever.

i ahve also done some unscientific test, basically with my daughters and our dog, the a9 nails the focus every single time, whilst the a7iii it does miss it.
Overall the a9 is a more enjoyable camera to use, way faster and snappier

Great photos by the wa!
 
PauBass said:
I have had an a7iii for a few moths and I know also have an a9 that I got a couple of weeks ago I have to say the a9's autofocus and speed is way above that of the a7iii.
Last week I was photographing a birthday part in a pretty dark club, a7iii really struggled at focusing no matter what area I was using, on the ohter hand the a9 had no problems whatsoever.

i ahve also done some unscientific test, basically with my daughters and our dog, the a9 nails the focus every single time, whilst the a7iii it does miss it.
Overall the a9 is a more enjoyable camera to use, way faster and snappier

Great photos by the wa!
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I have had the A9 since launched and its an amazing camera. Focuses faster than my a7r3 and very snappy too overall
 
jonneymendoza said:
Have u tried cleaning the hot shoe contacts?
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I had a look and they looked clean, they look very fragile and I'm not too keen in touching them. But as I menationed, it happens in both my a7iii and a9.
I know there are people out there having this very same problem, Godox need to improve with Sony I think....or Sony with Godox :)
 
PauBass said:
I have had an a7iii for a few moths and I know also have an a9 that I got a couple of weeks ago I have to say the a9's autofocus and speed is way above that of the a7iii.
Last week I was photographing a birthday part in a pretty dark club, a7iii really struggled at focusing no matter what area I was using, on the ohter hand the a9 had no problems whatsoever.

i ahve also done some unscientific test, basically with my daughters and our dog, the a9 nails the focus every single time, whilst the a7iii it does miss it.
Overall the a9 is a more enjoyable camera to use, way faster and snappier

Great photos by the wa!
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Interesting as most people say they perform pretty much the same. Besides the 20fps.
 
PauBass said:
I have had an a7iii for a few moths and I know also have an a9 that I got a couple of weeks ago I have to say the a9's autofocus and speed is way above that of the a7iii.
Last week I was photographing a birthday part in a pretty dark club, a7iii really struggled at focusing no matter what area I was using, on the ohter hand the a9 had no problems whatsoever.

i ahve also done some unscientific test, basically with my daughters and our dog, the a9 nails the focus every single time, whilst the a7iii it does miss it.
Overall the a9 is a more enjoyable camera to use, way faster and snappier

Great photos by the wa!
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twist said:
Interesting as most people say they perform pretty much the same. Besides the 20fps.
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Posts like these make it so hard for people like me trying to choose between the A7 III & A9 :D
 
PauBass said:
I had a look and they looked clean, they look very fragile and I'm not too keen in touching them. But as I menationed, it happens in both my a7iii and a9.
I know there are people out there having this very same problem, Godox need to improve with Sony I think....or Sony with Godox :)
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Yea I've heard some say it misfires but not everyone has that issue. I've never had a misfire on my ad200 or ad600 yet
 
jonneymendoza said:
Yea I've heard some say it misfires but not everyone has that issue. I've never had a misfire on my ad200 or ad600 yet
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I'm one of the unlucky ones :)
At an event last week it failed to fire on camera maaany times, in my sudio, with triggers, also fails.I'm very tempted on giving up on Godox as much as Iike the overall system but I just can;t afford to miss a key moment because of a misfire
 
PauBass said:
I'm one of the unlucky ones :)
At an event last week it failed to fire on camera maaany times, in my sudio, with triggers, also fails.I'm very tempted on giving up on Godox as much as Iike the overall system but I just can;t afford to miss a key moment because of a misfire
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Something not right. If it was a firmware issue etc it would effect all of us. How far are u from from the strobe when you fire a shot?
 
jj_glos said:
Not what I found, most people actually owning both cameras had the A9 performance down as better.
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Most of what I read have compared them directly and say there not a lot in it at all. I was undecided but thought the saving was to huge to ignore and the A9 value dropping massively made me even less keen to buy one.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Something not right. If it was a firmware issue etc it would effect all of us. How far are u from from the strobe when you fire a shot?
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I have tried at different distances, also have te trigger setup to 0-30.
But it also happens on camera flash, in both a9 and a7...very annoying.
 
PauBass said:
Not my experience, to my eyes the difference is there and very noticeable.
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EDIT also, was undecided but thought the saving was to huge to ignore and the A9 value dropping massively made me even less keen to buy one. From 4500k to 2500 used in hardly any time is terrible.
 
A9 is definitely a step better than M3 versions for AF. The M3 bodies provide lot more base ISO dynamic range.

They are intended for different use cases.
 
twist said:
Most of what I read have compared them directly and say there not a lot in it at all. I was undecided but thought the saving was to huge to ignore and the A9 value dropping massively made me even less keen to buy one.
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I'd always been interested in the A9, but as you say the price was a little prohibitive. When the A7III was released I spent a lot of time looking into if it was with a punt, and there were the inevitable comparisons with the A9 as everyone wants something at half the price and the same performance. I mainly search out actual user reports through forums, these were pretty consistent in still having the A9 down as the better performer.
 
DPreview...

One of our criticisms with Sony's a9 was that, upon initiating tracking, the AF points would jump off to another subject most of the way across the frame. Impressively, we encountered this behavior more rarely on the a7 III; when we did, it was usually in social situations where Eye AF was the better option anyway.

We also noticed that burst images from the a7 III were more consistently tack sharp compared to its more expensive sports-oriented sibling. With the a9, images in the middle of 20fps bursts could sometimes float in and out of critical focus, but at 10fps on the a7 III, images throughout the burst were almost universally accurately focused.

 
twist said:
DPreview...

One of our criticisms with Sony's a9 was that, upon initiating tracking, the AF points would jump off to another subject most of the way across the frame. Impressively, we encountered this behavior more rarely on the a7 III; when we did, it was usually in social situations where Eye AF was the better option anyway.

We also noticed that burst images from the a7 III were more consistently tack sharp compared to its more expensive sports-oriented sibling. With the a9, images in the middle of 20fps bursts could sometimes float in and out of critical focus, but at 10fps on the a7 III, images throughout the burst were almost universally accurately focused.
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A lab review, totally opposite to users running both cameras for their job day to day. I know which I prefer, you're different and that's fine.
 
jonneymendoza said:
The A9's Dynamic range is also superior in the high ISO ranges.

Basically better for low light
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It's not better for low light. Dynamic range is about the same at high ISO.
A9 definitely focusses better in low light but IQ is mostly the same.
 
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Something in another thread caught my eye. When talking about kit some people use phrases I don't tend to use a lot and talk about bonding / not bonding with kit, liking or not liking using it etc but when I read these things half of me thinks "fanboy/hater" and half of me wants to scream "Say something that makes sense!"

I can't say I bond with my cameras. I may dislike the handling because the grip feels uncomfortable, I may decide a camera isn't for me because the on / off switch is in a place I don't like, I may decide the image quality isn't good enough or I may like a lens because of the way the pictures look but I can't say that I'd ever bought or not bought for intangible reasons, I think I can always make a solid sensible case either way based on definable things.

So, I just wondered if there are any emotional bonders here or if you're detatched plus and minus point list weighers?
 
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And right on cue...

The rumor site reports that the Batis 40mm has the sparkle that gives that emotional element...

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/zei...t-gives-that-emotional-element/#disqus_thread

Oh dear... :D

"Quality, lack of compromise and elegance of design. These are the things that characterise the new lens, one which I have found very exciting to use. It also does not fall into the trap of being clinically sharp without having that indefinable character. It manages to be crisp and clean in terms of its images, but they also have the sparkle that gives that emotional element. Sometimes this is referred to as “pixie dust”, the magical extra ingredient that makes great lenses.

Thus the new Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF lens justifies its price tag and it has that extra quality that makes it an Editor’s Choice."

"indefinable character"? Please try... maybe it's just me that thinks this is gibberish.
 
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jj_glos said:
You can believe what you want, I really don't care. It will have zero impact on my opinions on the cameras. I won't ever own an A7III, and you likely won't ever own an A9. That's fine, enjoy.
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You seem to be getting quite upset though. I likely will own an A9, if I choose to.
 
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Gadget-Guy said:
First go with the A7III on native glass as hired the 70-200.

Big learning curve over both the Canon and Fuji cameras i have used with a few things i love and a few things i hate.

Really need to get my hands on an A9 for a play as although i love the dynamic range of this one the A/F struggles still with bikes and the slight lag on the EVF in use and turning on is a pain.

Still trying to work out if its worth selling up all the Canon gear for a move over as although i am stopping covering BSB i will still attend a few meetings to take images but love the weight saving the new 400 f2.8 would give over my 300 and 500 primes and pair of 1DX MKII's.

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Simply stunning :)
 
twist said:
You seem to be getting quite upset though. I likely will own an A9, if I choose to.
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lol, you're the one upset enough to decry an owner of both cameras experience as being incorrect and go off trawling the internet to post links to backup your opinion, which incidentally isn't based off actually using both cameras...

I only posted to state that I have read the same from many other owners who have also had the same experience as the poster here. Simples, no drama.
 
jj_glos said:
lol, you're the one upset enough to decry an owner of both cameras experience as being incorrect and go off trawling the internet to post links to backup your opinion, which incidentally isn't based off actually using both cameras...

I only posted to state that I have read the same from many other owners who have also had the same experience as the poster here. Simples, no drama.
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You're the one dismissing DPreview by saying the tests they conducted on the AF system are lab tests because you dont like their comments. You have the opinion yet you dont offer any proof and dont own both cameras either.

You have read the difference is night and day, I have read it isnt.
 
The whole A9 vs A7 III debate will always rage on, the A9 is better but for so many different reasons apart from its AF performance.... anybody who thought the A7 III had the identical AF performance like the A9 for £1999 was a little optimistic.

- EVF
- 20 fps
- Deep buffer
- 100% silent shutter (no distortion)
- Drive Mode Dial
- Blackout free EVF
- FTP / RJ45
- 6K -> 4K Recording
- CMOS RS with high response rate

You could argue that for the additional £1800-2000 premium, the Sony A9 isn’t worth it over the A7 III.
It comes down to your requirements, others just want the best of the best regardless of the outlay :)
 
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Riz_Guru said:
The whole A9 vs A7 III debate will always rage on, the A9 is better but for so many different reasons apart from its AF performance.... anybody who thought the A7 III had the identical AF performance like the A9 for £1999 was a little optimistic.

- EVF
- 20 fps
- Deep buffer
- 100% silent shutter (no distortion)
- Drive Mode Dial
- Blackout free EVF
- FTP / RJ45
- 6K -> 4K Recording
- CMOS RS with high response rate

You could argue that for the additional £1800-2000 premium, the Sony A9 isn’t worth it over the A7 III.
It comes down to your requirements, others just want the best of the best regardless of the outlay :)
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There is a lot more than the AF (arguably better or not) that makes it a great camera and if the prices continue to fall Ill probably go for one. You're right, to some its worth the outlay no matter the cost, I think Sony just made it a fairly hard sell when the A7iii is so cheap, but they cannibalised the higher end for very good reason IMO.
 
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